The rich get richer

[Duncan Idaho]

It's all about the coach. If tomorrow Texas hired Saban --USC hired Urban.---even if Colorado hired Dabo. The players would soon arrive and so would the championships.

The coach comes with a financial commitment from the school. T a&m gave Fisher 75MM over 10 years, guaranteed, more spending on recruiting. Shady demanded more resources for the program before he signed anything at Rutgers...

 

[huskymedic]

From within:

It is a familiar field — all four participants have previously made the 7-year-old playoff system. It’s the sixth appearance for Alabama and Clemson and the fourth for Ohio State. Of the 28 all-time playoff slots those three teams (plus Oklahoma) have taken up 20. (Notre Dame is making its second playoff appearance.)

Only six teams have ever won a playoff game, with LSU, Georgia and Oregon joining Bama, Clemson and Ohio State. Only LSU (last year) has won a title other than the big three.

The lack of diversity at the top has proven problematic for the sport and frustrating for fans (especially of other teams). It feels like every year you can pencil in Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State and the entire season boils down to who gets to be the other guy.

Even worse, since the selection process is subjective, the past actually matters. And since top recruits naturally want to compete in the playoff, postseason success appears to beget even more postseason success by expanding the gap between the select few powers and everyone else.

 

[billybud]

Same problem with women's basketball...Notre Dame and or UConn have been in the Finals 12 times in the last eleven seasons...

 

[huskymedic]

Same problem with women's basketball...Notre Dame and or UConn have been in the Finals 12 times in the last eleven seasons...

It’s the 3rd or 4th time you have played that nugget in different threads... do you really believe that is an apt comparison to the perceived problem in CFB?

 

[Milo65]

Same problem with women's basketball...Notre Dame and or UConn have been in the Finals 12 times in the last eleven seasons...

Except you totally miss the point. Women’s basketball doesn’t bring in big TV money.

 

[Chin Diesel]

It’s the 3rd or 4th time you have played that nugget in different threads... do you really believe that is an apt comparison to the perceived problem in CFB?

Except you totally miss the point. Women’s basketball doesn’t bring in big TV money.

I won't speak for another poster, but the point he is trying to make does make you fall on one of these points- "I'm against dominance for competitive interests" or "I'm against dominance only in sports where the on field imbalance creates a balance sheet imbalance". Either point is a reasonable stance but they shouldn't be bunched in to one group.

 

[billybud]

Except you totally miss the point. Women’s basketball doesn’t bring in big TV money.

Yes...but the point that folks are bored because their teams can not compete at the very top..so often repeated on these threads...is point on.

If that is true for football, it holds true for basketball.

 

[billybud]

Let's face it, there have always been the rich, the nouveau rich, and the rest of us. And, unless we go socialist, and spread other's wealth around, it will be that way.

....ten SEC programs are in the Top 20 in athletic department revenue....

....six Big Ten programs in Top 20

....two Big 12

....two ACC

....no Pac12

And Clemson isn't one of the Top 20...

 

[Kolumbo]

Let's face it, there have always been the rich, the nouveau rich, and the rest of us. And, unless we go socialist, and spread other's wealth around, it will be that way.

....ten SEC programs are in the Top 20 in athletic department revenue....

....six Big Ten programs in Top 20

....two Big 12

....two ACC

....no Pac12

And Clemson isn't one of the Top 20...

Point taken. I did a search though because I assumed Stamford and USC would be up there but I'm guessing your list doesn't include private universities. I'm sure Syracuse, BC, Miami, Duke, etc are up there.

 

[hank970]

Point taken. I did a search though because I assumed Stamford and USC would be up there but I'm guessing your list doesn't include private universities. I'm sure Syracuse, BC, Miami, Duke, etc are up there.

Stamford (CT) has a team?

 

[billybud]

Point taken. I did a search though because I assumed Stamford and USC would be up there but I'm guessing your list doesn't include private universities. I'm sure Syracuse, BC, Miami, Duke, etc are up there.

Miami isn't in the top 20...they report one half of the revenue of #20 Arkansas...and less than UConn.

University of Miami Athletics Programs

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Syracuse is one third lower than #20 Arkansas...at $ 99.8 million.& would rank in the 40's....after WVU.

BC has a reported $66,907,000...behind UConn

Duke...$78,605,000

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Miami isn't in the top 20...they report one half of the revenue of #20 Arkansas...and less than UConn.

University of Miami Athletics Programs

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www.collegefactual.com

Syracuse is one third lower than #20 Arkansas...at $ 99.8 million.& would rank in the 40's....after WVU.

BC has a reported $66,907,000...behind UConn

Duke...$78,605,000

Odd. We have around an 80MM athletic budget in which half is funded by fees. Guess we don't have a problem after all. The national press made a big something out nothing. Those guys.

 

[Kolumbo]

Miami isn't in the top 20...they report one half of the revenue of #20 Arkansas...and less than UConn.

University of Miami Athletics Programs

Take a look and see what sports programs are available at University of Miami. Find out how much in aid student athletes receive, how U Miami ranks for each sport, how much revenue the school makes for each sport, and more.

www.collegefactual.com

Syracuse is one third lower than #20 Arkansas...at $ 99.8 million.& would rank in the 40's....after WVU.

BC has a reported $66,907,000...behind UConn

Duke...$78,605,000

So they are up there.

If I remember correctly, UConn has one of the highest budgets of any non-P5 program. And others on this board know far more about this subject but to say UConn and Duke have about the same Revenue, I don't think we're comparing apples to apples. UConn's revenue is $80 million, total allocated $44 million.

Methodology for 2019 NCAA athletic department revenue database | USA TODAY Sports

 

[huskypantz]

Same problem with women's basketball...Notre Dame and or UConn have been in the Finals 12 times in the last eleven seasons...

The difference is that the women actually have to compete to get to the final four. They need to win 4 games just to get to the stage the football playoff participants are handed. There is also a measurable difference in revenue that Alabama is pulling in (and expending) versus the field in comparison to the UConn women. There is no $$$ benefit in women's bball. It's basically a HOF coach and fans that care versus 99% of programs where noone cares or supports their wbb team and their head coach makes less than their running backs coach.

 

[billybud]

Result same....same as having Bama & Clemson play in Final....Revenue counts for football...not so much women's basketball.

Still have dominant teams....

 

[billybud]

Odd. We have around an 80MM athletic budget in which half is funded by fees. Guess we don't have a problem after all. The national press made a big something out nothing. Those guys.

yep...and maybe done less with that 80MM than ECU with their 56 MM or UCF with their 67 MM.