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Boreifs said:
Both Massey and Net now have UConn fourth, over Louisville. How can the committee ignore that?
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They can easily ignore Massey - and RPI - and Nolan’s ELO - and the AP - and Coaches Poll. None of those are factors in their guidelines.

NET is a listed factor. However, it is only one of a dozen or more factors they can consider. Last year, SCar was 5th in NET on Selection Day. However, the committee picked them as a one seed.

Personally, I think the the NET should have a rebuttable presumption of conclusive ness that can only be overcome by application of a majority of the other factors
 
huskies29 said:
Creme is a pompous joke. We will be a 2 in Bridgeport when the smoke clears
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He is only projecting what he believe the committee will do. He’s been up front with his disagreements with their choices but the committee has the final word. He’s just trying to follow their logic
 
Boreifs said:
Both Massey and Net now have UConn fourth, over Louisville. How can the committee ignore that?
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Like this…
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  1. So Carolina
  2. Stanford
  3. NC St
  4. Louisville - Loss to unr Miami
  5. Baylor
  6. Iowa St
  7. LSU - Loss to unr Kentucky
  8. Michigan - Loss to unr Nebraska
  9. UConn
  10. Texas
  11. Arizona - Loss to unr Colorado
  12. Maryland - Loss to 15 Indiana
  13. Tenn
  14. Iowa
  15. Indiana
  16. Okla
ordered by Committee rankings.
unr - unranked by AP
 
Is it a given that South Carolina will be the one seed in Greensboro?
Is it a given that Stanford will be a one seed in Spokane?

i.e. all the 2 and 3 and 4 seeds will have fingers crossed for Bridgeport or Wichita?

Assume for the moment that SC and Stanford get to the final four.
Is it a given that they will not be matched in the semis?
 
Blakeon18 said:
Is it a given that South Carolina will be the one seed in Greensboro?
Is it a given that Stanford will be a one seed in Spokane?

i.e. all the 2 and 3 and 4 seeds will have fingers crossed for Bridgeport or Wichita?

Assume for the moment that SC and Stanford get to the final four.
Is it a given that they will not be matched in the semis?
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no, but highly probable
no, but highly probable

yes, the brackets are arranged so that the 1a seed plays the 1d seed in the semis.
 
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Blakeon18 said:
Is it a given that South Carolina will be the one seed in Greensboro?
Is it a given that Stanford will be a one seed in Spokane?

i.e. all the 2 and 3 and 4 seeds will have fingers crossed for Bridgeport or Wichita?

Assume for the moment that SC and Stanford get to the final four.
Is it a given that they will not be matched in the semis?
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I suppose it's not a given that they hold on to the two top overall seeds, but it seems more than likely. If they do, they will both get the closest region and be bracketed to meet in the final.
 
Charlie Creme now has Connecticut as a number two seed but still in Greensboro with SC. The Huskies need Iowa State to lose to have a chance for Bridgeport.
 
CajunHusky said:
  1. So Carolina
  2. Stanford
  3. NC St
  4. Louisville - Loss to unr Miami
  5. Baylor
  6. Iowa St
  7. LSU - Loss to unr Kentucky
  8. Michigan - Loss to unr Nebraska
  9. UConn
  10. Texas
  11. Arizona - Loss to unr Colorado
  12. Maryland - Loss to 15 Indiana
  13. Tenn
  14. Iowa
  15. Indiana
  16. Okla
ordered by Committee rankings.
unr - unranked by AP
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Plus Iowa State got blown out at home by Baylor the night of the reveal.
 
Scooter said:
Charlie Creme now has Connecticut as a number two seed but still in Greensboro with SC. The Huskies need Iowa State to lose to have a chance for Bridgeport.
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Obviously I am biased, but I would give 15 points if we played Iowa State on a neutral court. Unless they win the Big 12 tourney, it would be a crime if they were seeded above us.
 
Boreifs said:
Plus Iowa State got blown out at home by Baylor the night of the reveal.
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that would suggest a reordering to 4. Baylor 5. Louisville 6. Iowa State 7. UConn.

now let's see what other dominoes fall.
 
Per CC:

"Losses by Michigan, Louisville, LSU, Oregon and Maryland on Friday created movement in and around the top 16. As a result, UConn is a No. 2 seed, the Wolverines fell to a No. 3 and the Terps to a 4-seed. The Ducks' chances of hosting first- and second-round NCAA tournament games are gone after the Pac-12 semifinal loss to Utah. Louisville didn't fall off the top line, but its No. 1 seed isn't secure. The Cardinals' resume is still better than that of Baylor's, but the once-sizeable margin has shrunk. If Baylor -- which has one regular-season game remaining, plus the Big 12 tournament -- runs the table, the Bears will supplant Louisville as the fourth and final No. 1 seed.
 
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So this seems to be the updated order:
  1. SC
  2. Stanford
  3. NC State
  4. L'ville
  5. Baylor
  6. Iowa State
  7. LSU
  8. UCONN
It seems we need to get to the 6 line to get into Bridgeport. LSU is done with their tourney so a romp thru the BET would hopefully get us to #7, but that puts us as the 2 seed in Stanford's region.

If ISU makes it to the championship game, even if they get crushed by Baylor, I would guess they stay at #6. It seems they need to lose early on for UCONN to have any shot at Bridgeport.
 
Blakeon18 said:
Is it a given that South Carolina will be the one seed in Greensboro?
Is it a given that Stanford will be a one seed in Spokane?

i.e. all the 2 and 3 and 4 seeds will have fingers crossed for Bridgeport or Wichita?

Assume for the moment that SC and Stanford get to the final four.
Is it a given that they will not be matched in the semis?
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Yes to all
 
EricLA said:
So this seems to be the updated order:
  1. SC
  2. Stanford
  3. NC State
  4. L'ville
  5. Baylor
  6. Iowa State
  7. LSU
  8. UCONN
It seems we need to get to the 6 line to get into Bridgeport. LSU is done with their tourney so a romp thru the BET would hopefully get us to #7, but that puts us as the 2 seed in Stanford's region.
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LSU can’t be the 2 in Greensboro, so even if they are #8 they will be in Spokane.
 
Is geography a realistic factor in where teams are placed? What a monetary Miss to put UConn anywhere but the Bridgeport region. Just isn’t good for the game.
 
Urshurak said:
Is geography a realistic factor in where teams are placed? What a monetary Miss to put UConn anywhere but the Bridgeport region. Just isn’t good for the game.
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The ones get a geographic preference. After that, seeding competes with the need to separate conference foes.
 
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browns said:
Looking at Charly's latest brackets the Bridgeport region has just got tougher. Uconn stays at #3 but he now has Baylor as a #2 which I feel is a more difficult game than Michigan would have been.Also he now has Maryland at a #3 and I feel they will beat NCState setting up an elite matchup with Uconn. Say what you want about Brenda as a coach but for once she scheduled a tough OC schedule which I think will help Maryland.They should have beaten SC except for a few questionable calls the last few minutes of that game at SC.
Now things could change and I feel Uconn can make it to the final four if like Geno says everyone plays to the best of their abilities (AE ?) And that's with the team he has right now,not counting if Paige plays or not. They have shown the great defense they can play and like all great Uconn teams they have always won playing terrific defense.
So I'm looking forward to see if they play the whole game against Marquette like they played against them in the 4th quarter up there.then we'll know if they are ready for the tournaments
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I think it’s very unlikely that Maryland will beat NC State. Maryland has just not been very good this year.
 
BRS24 said:
Per CC:

"Losses by Michigan, Louisville, LSU, Oregon and Maryland on Friday created movement in and around the top 16. As a result, UConn is a No. 2 seed, the Wolverines fell to a No. 3 and the Terps to a 4-seed. The Ducks' chances of hosting first- and second-round NCAA tournament games are gone after the Pac-12 semifinal loss to Utah. Louisville didn't fall off the top line, but its No. 1 seed isn't secure. The Cardinals' resume is still better than that of Baylor's, but the once-sizeable margin has shrunk. If Baylor -- which has one regular-season game remaining, plus the Big 12 tournament -- runs the table, the Bears will supplant Louisville as the fourth and final No. 1 seed.
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  1. Greensboro SC LSU
  2. Spokane Stan UConn
  3. Bridgeport NC State Iowa State
  4. Wichita Baylor Louisville
 
Plebe said:
LSU can't be in Greensboro with SC.
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agreed but rather than adjust at this point - still a few games left in conf tournaments - I would like to wait to see if another team pushes LSU down to a 3 seed.
 
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CajunHusky said:
that would suggest a reordering to 4. Baylor 5. Louisville 6. Iowa State 7. UConn.

now let's see what other dominoes fall.
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Please explain why you think Iowa State should be seeded ahead of UConn after two blow out losses to Baylor. There might very well be another in the Big 12 tournament as well; they don’t match up well at all.
 
Boreifs said:
Please explain why you think Iowa State should be seeded ahead of UConn after two blow out losses to Baylor. There might very well be another in the Big 12 tournament as well; they don’t match up well at all.
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It isn't a matter of whether I think Iowa State should be seeded ahead of UConn but more a matter the committee has Iowa State seeded ahead of UConn. At this point it takes something significant and another blowout loss to Baylor may do it but frankly it is an expected loss to a projected 1 seed and I don't see them falling that far.
 
Lsu stays the 7th seed, Iowa State still a high 2 seed and Uconn still the #8th overall seed as a 2 in SC region. Again people put too much emphasis on losses to ranked teams, if you lose by 10 or 15 to a top 5 team it's not going to affect you. That Uconn loss to Nova is what is going to keep them out of Bridgeport, it's a loss vs a team from the Big East who is sending only Creighton after Depaul's epic collapse. Again idk how Creighton is a 9 seed, they have beaten no tournament teams and lost to South Dakota at home. Uconn can win the last 2 Big East games by 100+ and I don't see any way they improve. The 2 seeds ahead of them are Iowa State and Baylor and unless one of them suffers an embarassing loss they won't move.
 
Everyone in top 16 still the same.

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Per CC:
"Saturday brought more upsets. Kentucky and Miami, the primary giant slayers, are the most upwardly mobile teams in the bracket. The Wildcats, who have advanced to the SEC final, are a No. 8 seed in our latest projection. The Hurricanes, who on back-to-back days knocked off the ACC tournament's Nos. 2 and 3 seeds, have gone from "not even under consideration" on Feb. 17 to a No. 9 seed after the results Saturday. Still, despite the upsets, the top 16 hasn't dramatically changed. The reason? There have been too many upsets. For example, Oklahoma, which entered Saturday as the No. 16 team, lost to Kansas. The Sooners stood pat, however, because the teams behind them that might have taken that spot -- Virginia Tech, Notre Dame, Oregon, North Carolina and Ohio State -- all lost within the past two days."​
 
in Greensboro according to Charlie Creme.

Prelim in Storrs includes Georgia, Princeton, and Holy Cross.

Story and full bracket [HERE]
 
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saywho said:
I don't think pompous really would be the right choice of word in this situation. What makes him pompous? Unfortunately, UConn literally does not have a single quality win at this point. They beat Tennessee, who at the moment is struggling themselves to stay a top 16 seed, as their best win. If Tennessee drops out early of the SEC tournament, there is a good chance they don't host. And at that point, UConn has 0 wins against top 16 seeded teams.

Yes, I know injuries are a reason for the lack of a quality win, and that everybody is getting back to healthy now. That certainly bodes well for moving forward, but the committee has no quality wins to evaluate even when Paige was playing. Based on what actually happened in games, UConn has a weak resume this year with no signature wins.

However, it seems like Louisville may have helped out with their loss tonight, and LSU seems to be heading the same way. So, luck may be in the cards, but if a 2 seed does happen, it is not based on quality wins bc they don't exist (though I do think they will get some quality wins in the tournament).
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I evaluate teams based upon watching games they play. Certainly, the quality of the opponent is a major factor affecting team play and I agree UConn has not performed as well against really good teams as in the past but the last few games I have watched UConn I believe they are playing their best ball and IMO this team is one of the top 4 teams and deserves a number 1 seed.
 
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