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Recruiting is like buying something at an auction. Find something you like and make an offer. If you are smart, you negotiate, but never let yourself get over extended. If you don't win the bidding, find something else.

We should be in fine shape.

Still, I think the 'nattering nabobs of negativism' (William Safire via Spiro Agnew) should run our sports information desk. Americans, including future recruits, love underdogs.

So, let's be one, (despite our national championships).

Oh, Manuel was forced to take KO, (but he was the best choice for the job), and KO didn't get a contract right away (but he has a contract now, best thing WM has done), and last year's team was ineligible (but, we're eligible this year) and didn't have anything to play for (but went 20-10, and left a taste of UConn with Michigan State, Syracuse, etc.) and we have gotten so close to so many top recruits (this is bad?) only to be heart broken when they declared for another school (although we have 2 McD AAs committed) - boo hoo, boo hoo!

In March 2014, when the best guards in the country lead UConn deep into the NCAA tournament, the story line will be underdog UConn and Coach (music starts in background) KO, friend and mentor of KG, who retired from the NBA and turned down front office jobs there to come 'home' to his UConn family, where he is like a son to legendary coach, Jim Calhoun, leads his loyal, but decimated team, suffering player defections to transfers and to the NBA to the tournament. Has he coached up these scattered remnants to transform them into title contenders? One shining moment.....

Even then, we will still be haunted by 'hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history' (Safire, supra). You know who you are.

P.S.There is only one legitimate worry, in my opinion. That Facey is ruled ineligible until 2014-15?

I understand how Lasan Kromah looked better than Enosh Wolf for a minute, especially because he had been suspended for assault.

Now, Olander has not just knocked himself out for a while, but he has done so in a way that invites comparisons to Wolf's scholarship loss. This means TO is out at least until the second semester barring a miracle in criminal court. So, we are left to hope the NCAA will do the right thing and let Facey play this year.

This is where I get negative.
 

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Wish we had Wolf. But, if we have Facey, we have a 3-man rotation at the center position and can survive. Hope the NCAA sees reason. Crazy to punish a kid for being a good student and coming from a different type of school system.
 
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You can't be an underdog when the core of your team is top 100 recruits and you have an AA senior leading the charge.

I do agree that Facey seems to be getting the shaft. Give him a standardized test; if he passes, he's in. If he doesn't he sits. The NCAA needs some common sense.
 
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IMHO,
You can't be an underdog when the core of your team is top 100 recruits and you have an AA senior leading the charge.

I do agree that Facey seems to be getting the shaft. Give him a standardized test; if he passes, he's in. If he doesn't he sits. The NCAA needs some common sense.

Facey is enrolled and in school, he's been taking classes since the summer, this isn't a Tyler Roberson situation where grades are in question.
 
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IMHO,
You can't be an underdog when the core of your team is top 100 recruits and you have an AA senior leading the charge.

I do agree that Facey seems to be getting the shaft. Give him a standardized test; if he passes, he's in. If he doesn't he sits. The NCAA needs some common sense.

Huh? Facey did well on standardized tests. That's not the issue. The issue is that he passed a test in Jamaica at the age of 15 which signified that he had finished his secondary education in a British system. The NCAA is looking at that as his real graduation date, and anything that came after is considered post-grad.
 
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Oh I know Faceys situation. I just think the NCAA would be better served testing the kid and talking to the kid to figure out his academic fitness level.
 
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Oh I know Faceys situation. I just think the NCAA would be better served testing the kid and talking to the kid to figure out his academic fitness level.

There is no question of his academic fitness. That's not the issue. The NCAA has absolutely no concerns about that.
 

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Oh I know Faceys situation. I just think the NCAA would be better served testing the kid and talking to the kid to figure out his academic fitness level.

IF you actually do know the Facey situation, you would also know that his academic fitness level hasn't been in question since he first enrolled in HS in the US.
 
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Oh I know Faceys situation. I just think the NCAA would be better served testing the kid and talking to the kid to figure out his academic fitness level.

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Oh I know Faceys situation. I just think the NCAA would be better served testing the kid and talking to the kid to figure out his academic fitness level.


I think you're a little confused - his academic fitness is not in question.

To over simplify, the issue is what constitutes graduation from high school in Jamaica.
 
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Recruiting is like buying something at an auction. Find something you like and make an offer. If you are smart, you negotiate, but never let yourself get over extended. If you don't win the bidding, find something else.

We should be in fine shape.

Still, I think the 'nattering nabobs of negativism' (William Safire via Spiro Agnew) should run our sports information desk. Americans, including future recruits, love underdogs.

So, let's be one, (despite our national championships).

Oh, Manuel was forced to take KO, (but he was the best choice for the job), and KO didn't get a contract right away (but he has a contract now, best thing WM has done), and last year's team was ineligible (but, we're eligible this year) and didn't have anything to play for (but went 20-10, and left a taste of UConn with Michigan State, Syracuse, etc.) and we have gotten so close to so many top recruits (this is bad?) only to be heart broken when they declared for another school (although we have 2 McD AAs committed) - boo hoo, boo hoo!

In March 2014, when the best guards in the country lead UConn deep into the NCAA tournament, the story line will be underdog UConn and Coach (music starts in background) KO, friend and mentor of KG, who retired from the NBA and turned down front office jobs there to come 'home' to his UConn family, where he is like a son to legendary coach, Jim Calhoun, leads his loyal, but decimated team, suffering player defections to transfers and to the NBA to the tournament. Has he coached up these scattered remnants to transform them into title contenders? One shining moment.....

Even then, we will still be haunted by 'hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history' (Safire, supra). You know who you are.

P.S.There is only one legitimate worry, in my opinion. That Facey is ruled ineligible until 2014-15?

I understand how Lasan Kromah looked better than Enosh Wolf for a minute, especially because he had been suspended for assault.

Now, Olander has not just knocked himself out for a while, but he has done so in a way that invites comparisons to Wolf's scholarship loss. This means TO is out at least until the second semester barring a miracle in criminal court. So, we are left to hope the NCAA will do the right thing and let Facey play this year.

This is where I get negative.

I agree on KF. At the heart of any substantive team analysis....Kenton Facey has to be at the forefront. A reasonably prudent person could easily come to the conclusion that in order to exceed a particular point (e.g. a mere Sweet 16 run) Kenton Facey will have to produce a given effect or result in order to elicit the Final4 run UConn fans would cherish (especially if the accomplishment goes through a regional final at MSG).

What is sincerely open to debate is whether we will see Kenton or not and what effect or result do we need from him to put UConn on the cusp of a 4th national championship? We all know KF is somewhat raw but he has the potential to take his game to the exact level we need him to be at by Selection Sunday.

JMHO...per the usual.
 
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IMHO,
You can't be an underdog when the core of your team is top 100 recruits and you have an AA senior leading the charge.

I do agree that Facey seems to be getting the shaft. Give him a standardized test; if he passes, he's in. If he doesn't he sits. The NCAA needs some common sense.
A box of rocks has nothing on this fool.
 

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Oh I know Faceys situation. I just think the NCAA would be better served testing the kid and talking to the kid to figure out his academic fitness level.
They know his "academic fitness level", that's not in question. I don't think you understand the situation as well as you think.
 

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No US high school would consider that a 15 year old had graduated high school because he passed a GED; they would also require young kids to meet requirements for course-years in various high school level courses. It's absurd for the NCAA to say that a young Jamaican kid had graduated high school when no US high school and few US colleges would say that.
 
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I agree on KF. At the heart of any substantive team analysis....Kenton Facey has to be at the forefront. A reasonably prudent person could easily come to the conclusion that in order to exceed a particular point (e.g. a mere Sweet 16 run) Kenton Facey will have to produce a given effect or result in order to elicit the Final4 run UConn fans would cherish (especially if the accomplishment goes through a regional final at MSG).

What is sincerely open to debate is whether we will see Kenton or not and what effect or result do we need from him to put UConn on the cusp of a 4th national championship? We all know KF is somewhat raw but he has the potential to take his game to the exact level we need him to be at by Selection Sunday.

JMHO...per the usual.

Exactly-by March he could develop into a huge factor-by that I mean 8-10 boards and 2-3 blocks a game with a little offense to throw in.
 
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10 boards a game and 3 blocks ? Put down the bottle sir
 
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Exactly-by March he could develop into a huge factor-by that I mean 8-10 boards and 2-3 blocks a game with a little offense to throw in.

We grab 6 boards from Nolan, 5-6 from Facey, 3-4 from Brimah, and 5-6 from Daniels we are in really good shape.
 

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The NCAA thinks Facey deserves to be treated like a junior college transfer since the test he took, and passed, when he was 15 can be considered a GED equivalent. The two years he spent at Long Island Lutheran may be judged as using two of his years of eligibility.

It's an absurd and ridiculous interpretation, but when has the NCAA ever used common sense in the interpretation of its bylaws?
 
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No US high school would consider that a 15 year old had graduated high school because he passed a GED; they would also require young kids to meet requirements for course-years in various high school level courses. It's absurd for the NCAA to say that a young Jamaican kid had graduated high school when no US high school and few US colleges would say that.
This is why it is so painful to watch the NCAA approach to this situation. If you weren't sure whether they had it out for UConn, now you know.
 
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This is why it is so painful to watch the NCAA approach to this situation. If you weren't sure whether they had it out for UConn, now you know.


It's disappointing that the AD's office, the President, or at least the press isn't pointing out how absurd this is.
 
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