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The Machinery Is in Motion to Postpone the 2020 College Football Season...

billybud said:
Penn State football players take to social media: '#IWantToPlay'

“Since day one coming back to campus the Penn State Football staff and medical experts have put our health and safety first, above anything else. The guidelines put into place keep us safe while playing the game we love. We are ready to play and we want to play.”

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Penn State football players take to social media: '#IWantToPlay'

The Nittany Lions believe they have taken the proper steps to compete in a safe manner this fall even in the face of the COVID-19 pandemic
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Football players want to play, and old men guided by lawyers want to cover their backsides.
 
I wonder if schools wod break from conferences if they feel like they should be playing. Could we see the Ohio States and Alabamas of the CFB world decide to break from their conferences because they feel they are in a place where they can play football and feel comfortable doing it.

I know conferences are making this decision and it's the right one. However, you have to think that there are some big time programs that might not fully agree with shutting it down.
 
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The Power 5 are crazy to push for a Fall season. Playing in empty stadiums without revenue from 100,000 fans in the stands when schools need the revenue is ludicrous. Push it to the Spring and play in front of fans.
 
For years, Bilas has been arguing that the B10 Presidents are just bluffing when they claim they will not go to a pay-for-play model. I think Bilas is wrong.

Bilas is kind of flabbergasted this morning, retweeting Wetzel's lame article cajoling the SEC not to give up.
 
Waquoit said:
Everyone expected things to be better by this point in time.
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Just like everyone who is saying "play in the Spring" is expecting things to be better by then. We will most likely be saying many of the same things in the Spring: "This virus has only been around for a year and we are still learning what the effects are and how the (insert vaccine name here) is impacting it...I wouldn't just assume everything will back to normal by Spring.
 
Marbles90 said:
Just like everyone who is saying "play in the Spring" is expecting things to be better by then. We will most likely be saying many of the same things in the Spring: "This virus has only been around for a year and we are still learning what the effects are and how the (insert vaccine name here) is impacting it...I wouldn't just assume everything will back to normal by Spring.
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don’t disagree at all and wouldn’t be shocked if spring sports are canceled as well.
 
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Hmmm NCAA says schools can’t attempt to curb liability with waivers and within 10 days the P5 cancels football... it’s not the straw, but it was a much heavier straw than others. The dots are there.
 
Exit 4 said:
The push pull

and the end of universities in general too?
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It seems like they have been trending that way. The virus really has accelerated this. People can attend school without leaving their homes. The need for a campus has diminished.
 
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BlueDogs said:
Football players want to play, and old men guided by lawyers want to cover their backsides.
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Debatable. It is really tough to say the campus environment is unsafe for classes but safe for football players. It may well be that some have trouble with that duplicity, even if 20 year old who consider themselves immortal are willing to take the risk.
 
Bongo Fury said:
It seems like they have been trending that way. The virus really has accelerated this. People can attend school without leaving their homes. The need for a campus has diminished.
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One wonders whether a packed lecture hall is any better learning environment than online learning. College is about more than just the classes, but I do think the pressure on the smaller privates which are still jockeying for a niche is going to be enormous.
 
Exit 4 said:
The push pull

and the end of universities in general too?
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Smaller liberal arts colleges with small endowments? Yep. Several of them will fold. Even major universities are going to have to figure out what they are really good at and focus funding towards those programs.
 
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CL82 said:
One wonders whether a packed lecture hall is any better learning environment than online learning. College is about more than just the classes, but I do think the pressure on the smaller privates which are still jockeying for a niche is going to be enormous.
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Serious question for you or anyone else who sat in large (>50 student) lecture halls.

How many times did you or others raise a hand to asks question or engage in any meaningful dialogue with the professor?
 
Chin Diesel said:
Serious question for you or anyone else who sat in large (>50 student) lecture halls.

How many times did you or others raise a hand to asks question or engage in any meaningful dialogue with the professor?
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In college, not that I remember. Post grad, more frequently.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Smaller liberal arts colleges with small endowments? Yep. Several of them will fold. Even major universities are going to have to figure out what they are really good at and focus funding towards those programs.
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Even liberal arts colleges with incredible reputations, Like Hampshire College, are in danger.

As for big universities, they face a twin problem in reconsidering support for the breadth of departments throughout the university. One: the liberal arts courses operate in the black and produce a net profit for the school whereas the engineering courses operate at a loss. Any reduction in liberal arts creates a funding problem for the rest of the university. Two: a school's reputation and prestige relates to the breadth of offerings, ESPECIALLY in the AAU. So--which school goes first and takes a risk with its reputation?

I know Canisius is moving more to becoming a pre-professional school by eliminating departments and firing professors, and I think that may work out well for them. They are risking their rep on a bold move to keep the school afloat. They also reduced tuition, but already students are reporting cuts in scholarship. This may be a map out of the problem for some schools. Become pre-pro for upper middle class students. But as for their reputation? It might not matter. For a bigger school it would.
 
Bongo Fury said:
It seems like they have been trending that way. The virus really has accelerated this. People can attend school without leaving their homes. The need for a campus has diminished.
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We're getting exactly the opposite feedback. Massive pushback against the online experience.
 
CL82 said:
Debatable. It is really tough to say the campus environment is unsafe for classes but safe for football players. It may well be that some have trouble with that duplicity, even if 20 year old who consider themselves immortal are willing to take the risk.
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I can't ever underestimate the lengths people will go to in order to be duplicitous, BUT I think for once your description is exactly what is happening.
 
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