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11,500 fans attended the Portland regionals in 2019. This year Spokane had attendance of 7,700 with the closest school being 900 miles away. Greensboro only had 6,500 with the closest school being 180 miles away.

Locations bid thinking they can get enough income from the event to justify it. Every so often the NCAA tries an experiment for 4 years to see if it increases attendance and/or fairness. 2005 they went to 8 sub-regional sites, like the men do. There was a period where schools could host regionals on their campuses. When these locations were bid on, Oregon and Oregon State were pretty strong and Washington had recently gone to a final four. UCLA should be able to make some noise the next four years with Kiki Rice. Hopefully Oregon and Oregon State will get better the next few years.

The NCAA hopes that having 6 regional games in one location will increase interest and possibly build new fans in the host area. I'm skeptical, but hopeful.

2026 the regionals will be in Sacramento (120 miles from Stanford- basically the same distance as UConn is from Albany) and Dallas.
Okay, so each of the "Big Three" have close to home sites over the next three years. Greenville is about 100 miles from Columbia. Not a home court but we've played a number of SEC tournaments there in the last few years.
 
Why only the Pacific Northwest? To be consistent, it should then be the Northeast. Or the Southeast on the coast. This is just idiotic and probably driven by money. The whole concept of the Final Four involves teams coming from 4 separate regions. Let's see if their fake regional finals will draw 2 million viewers like Bridgeport.
or why not the Midwest where WBB is so popular? Will anybody even show up in Washington state?
 
MSGRET (with my endorsement) has advocated the following suggestion, I'll do it again. If the NCAA is going to "screw-up" the regionals going forward like it appears they are going to, Play the 16 team regional games in Las Vegas.

Plenty of different venues that can accommodate ALL of the games. If necessary, games could be played at the same time. Plenty of Hotels and great restaurants along with plenty of adult entertainment choices after the games.

Several conferences already play their conference tournament games there every year. Attending fans could take their choice of the different games they would like to attend. You can Uber/cab it all over town. No need for a car. Curb to curb service from your hotel to the arena/venue.

A lot of fans will be forced to travel with this new proposed 2 site plan. One site for ALL games would be better. No one likes change, but sometimes change is inevitable. I know there are a plethora of fans that don't like this suggestion. They won't like the 2-site idea either, but it's coming. Pick your poison. You could do a lot worse. :rolleyes:
 
Okay, so each of the "Big Three" have close to home sites over the next three years. Greenville is about 100 miles from Columbia. Not a home court but we've played a number of SEC tournaments there in the last few years.
And reduce the chances of Stanford being sent as the number 2 seed to the 2017 Lexington regionals instead of Stockton (80 miles from Stanford) when Oregon State was a higher #2 seed!
 
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or why not the Midwest where WBB is so popular? Will anybody even show up in Washington state?
Did anyone from the Midwest bid for these regionals? Dallas hosts a regionals in 2026. Like Albany/Bridgeport has bid and hosted a lot in the past 10 years because UConn fans will fill seats, when these regionals will bid on, 3 Northwest teams had recently made the Final Four-- Oregon (2019), Oregon State and Washington in 2016. 11,000 attended the Portland regionals in 2019.

I agree it would be interesting to host all four Regionals in Vegas for two years to see how that goes. Hopefully Vegas, Denver, Oklahoma City, Kansas City, Minneapolis, or St. Louis bid for 2027-2031.
 
MSGRET (with my endorsement) has advocated the following suggestion, I'll do it again. If the NCAA is going to "screw-up" the regionals going forward like it appears they are going to, Play the 16 team regional games in Las Vegas.

Plenty of different venues that can accommodate ALL of the games. If necessary, games could be played at the same time. Plenty of Hotels and great restaurants along with plenty of adult entertainment choices after the games.

Several conferences already play their conference tournament games there every year. Attending fans could take their choice of the different games they would like to attend. You can Uber/cab it all over town. No need for a car. Curb to curb service from your hotel to the arena/venue.

A lot of fans will be forced to travel with this new proposed 2 site plan. One site for ALL games would be better. No one likes change, but sometimes change is inevitable. I know there are a plethora of fans that don't like this suggestion. They won't like the 2-site idea either, but it's coming. Pick your poison. You could do a lot worse. :rolleyes:
I think UConn fans will enjoy Greenville next year. The downtown is small but tightly compressed with every major hotel. All clean and newish. Restaurants and bars galore. Park your car and walk to the games and after gatherings. Great March weather (but for thunderstorms)

https://s3.amazonaws.com/newsimg.fu...153332/aerial-downtown-greenville-cropped.jpg

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Did anyone from the Midwest bid for these regionals? Dallas hosts a regionals in 2026. Like Albany/Bridgeport has bid and hosted a lot in the past 10 years because UConn fans will fill seats, when these regionals will bid on, 3 Northwest teams had recently made the Final Four-- Oregon (2019), Oregon State and Washington in 2016. 11,000 attended the Portland regionals in 2019.

I agree it would be interesting to host all four Regionals in Vegas for two years to see how that goes. Hopefully Vegas, Denver, Oklahoma City, Kansas City, Minneapolis, or St. Louis bid for 2027-2031.
no idea but the great turnout in Iowa proves fans will come and I think they would buy tickets even if their teams weren't involved....
 
OK, I am bit bemused by some of these posts being made with virtually ZERO data to support their theories.

Let's get the facts straight on why the NCAA is doing this.
#1. The 1st Two Rounds on Campus sites of the Top 16 seeds have been shown to have very good attendance. The average was 6,778 for 32 sessions. Keep in mind many schools, like UConn were on Spring Break so some of the numbers were down (Oklahoma, Baylor, Texas and Stanford were the bottom 4).
#2. The Regionals have always been problematic for WCBB. UConn has been put in the East Region for all 8 years of the data I have reviewed (2013-2019; 2022). The average attendance for their 16 sessions is 8,903. Hosted by Bridgeport-4, Albany-3, Lincoln. The other regions are:
.....West 6,433 (Spokane-4/Portland/SiouxFalls/Stockton/PaloAlto)
...South 6,518 (Greensboro-3/Kansas City/Ok City/Dallas/Louisville/Norfolk)
.Mid-W 6,005 (Wichita/Chicago/Lexington-3,Ok City-2/South Bend)
#3. The 2021 Championship was held completely in San Antonio and the NCAA liked the larger gathering for synergies and view the opportunities to boost the attendance as paramount. They think by hosting bi-coastal, that will work.

How logical is it, that is the real question, especially when it has been proven UCONN has outdrawn all the other regions yet the Northeast is only getting Albany in 2024 while the Northwest gets 3-Spokane, Seattle, Portland.

While @dabears17 is right that in 2019, Portland averaged 11,450 with Oregon, that is the exception rather than the rule. Stockton, CA was abysmal with an average of 3,800 in 2017. Spokane has hosted 4 times since 2013 and averaged 6,365 fans per session.

To recap, UConn even in Lincoln, NE averaged 8,377 fans (BYU/TexA&M/DePaul) so UCONN travels well or has such a broad following, fans turnout.

Again, to me, put the West Coast in Vegas, plenty of rooms, lots of stuff to do, plenty of flights.

The fact is the First 4 rounds in WCBB really only average 6,500 fans per session. How does the NCAA grown that? There is NO CONSPIRACY against UCONN.
 
MSGRET (with my endorsement) has advocated the following suggestion, I'll do it again. If the NCAA is going to "screw-up" the regionals going forward like it appears they are going to, Play the 16 team regional games in Las Vegas.

Plenty of different venues that can accommodate ALL of the games. If necessary, games could be played at the same time. Plenty of Hotels and great restaurants along with plenty of adult entertainment choices after the games.

Several conferences already play their conference tournament games there every year. Attending fans could take their choice of the different games they would like to attend. You can Uber/cab it all over town. No need for a car. Curb to curb service from your hotel to the arena/venue.

A lot of fans will be forced to travel with this new proposed 2 site plan. One site for ALL games would be better. No one likes change, but sometimes change is inevitable. I know there are a plethora of fans that don't like this suggestion. They won't like the 2-site idea either, but it's coming. Pick your poison. You could do a lot worse. :rolleyes:
I have been talking about Vegas the last 2 days. You could have a girl's and women's basketball festival with contests, Hall of Famers, clinics, youth tournaments, mini basketball camps, exhibitors and exhibitions, and the like plus a great place for food and entertainment for the whole family. To grow the game you need a place the young players want to go to and the parents or grandparents want to take them to also. If I get on a plane to go 3,000 miles it will not be just to see games. I want other reasons also such as to make it a vacation. Seattle, Spokane and Portland ain't exactly the same nor are the other sites. Like someone said, when was the last time the NCAA did something right? They bungled the whole transfer hardship exemptions so badly they just scrapped it for the transfer portal. Do not think for a minute that was anything other than getting rid of potential future lawsuits due to the capriciousness of their decisions.
 
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OK, I am bit bemused by some of these posts being made with virtually ZERO data to support their theories.

Let's get the facts straight on why the NCAA is doing this.
#1. The 1st Two Rounds on Campus sites of the Top 16 seeds have been shown to have very good attendance. The average was 6,778 for 32 sessions. Keep in mind many schools, like UConn were on Spring Break so some of the numbers were down (Oklahoma, Baylor, Texas and Stanford were the bottom 4).
#2. The Regionals have always been problematic for WCBB. UConn has been put in the East Region for all 8 years of the data I have reviewed (2013-2019; 2022). The average attendance for their 16 sessions is 8,903. Hosted by Bridgeport-4, Albany-3, Lincoln. The other regions are:
.....West 6,433 (Spokane-4/Portland/SiouxFalls/Stockton/PaloAlto)
...South 6,518 (Greensboro-3/Kansas City/Ok City/Dallas/Louisville/Norfolk)
.Mid-W 6,005 (Wichita/Chicago/Lexington-3,Ok City-2/South Bend)
#3. The 2021 Championship was held completely in San Antonio and the NCAA liked the larger gathering for synergies and view the opportunities to boost the attendance as paramount. They think by hosting bi-coastal, that will work.

How logical is it, that is the real question, especially when it has been proven UCONN has outdrawn all the other regions yet the Northeast is only getting Albany in 2024 while the Northwest gets 3-Spokane, Seattle, Portland.

While @dabears17 is right that in 2019, Portland averaged 11,450 with Oregon, that is the exception rather than the rule. Stockton, CA was abysmal with an average of 3,800 in 2017. Spokane has hosted 4 times since 2013 and averaged 6,365 fans per session.

To recap, UConn even in Lincoln, NE averaged 8,377 fans (BYU/TexA&M/DePaul) so UCONN travels well or has such a broad following, fans turnout.

Again, to me, put the West Coast in Vegas, plenty of rooms, lots of stuff to do, plenty of flights.

The fact is the First 4 rounds in WCBB really only average 6,500 fans per session. How does the NCAA grown that? There is NO CONSPIRACY against UCONN.
There is however a conspiracy in the NCAA against common sense and business acumen.
 
Reading all of this made me wonder why Disney or Orlando in general didn't bid (maybe they did and I didn't hear about it?) Loads of hotels, loads of things to do, usual great weather at that time of year, east coast and south venue. During the COVID times the pros took that choice.
 
While @dabears17 is right that in 2019, Portland averaged 11,450 with Oregon, that is the exception rather than the rule. Stockton, CA was abysmal with an average of 3,800 in 2017. Spokane has hosted 4 times since 2013 and averaged 6,365 fans per session.

Agree with everything you say, just want to point out that attendance was low in Stockton, CA because the S curve sent the closest school, Stanford, to the Lexington Regional. Stockton was a poor choice for a regionals for numerous reasons.
 
Honestly, Stanford NEVER draws well regardless of where the games are played. Heck, even at Maples Pavilion the don't sell out in ANY Round of the NCAA. In 2014, the games were held on their campus for the Regionals and they sill only had 6,700 and 6,145. Granted it only holds 7,500 but still. Their season attendance is abysmal considering it is one of the top 3 programs all-time.
 
I hope I am wrong. But who do they lose? Who do we lose? Do we expect Piath or Amari to make a big enough jump to fill the void left by ONO? Will Aubrey fill the void left by Christyn? Will either of the freshman be that big of an impact to fill those voids? That's a lot to ask of a freshman. And then you ask them to beat SC in their back yard on top if it. Someone needs to tell Boston to jump to the WNBA or they will definitely be the pre-season #1 again next year and by a wide margin.
South Carolina has four seniors and one graduate student this year. The seniors are Destanni Henderson, Victaria Sexton, Destiny LIttleton, Elysa Wesolek, and the grad student is Lele Grissett. Henderson will be drafted if she declares for it. Sexton might as well. Sexton has been a pest in UConn games in my view. So, not so dire with that in mind.
 
What I do not get in the next 4 years where only 2 regional locations will exist is why the over representation in the northwest when the majority of NCAA regional teams has historically been east of the Rockies - just makes no sense to me. No mid west sites? Two in Washington St? Even Sacramento is northern CA.
Well, since the Washington Huskies are on the outs for the tournament, how could you find a more neutral site? Besides, Seattle is a great town to visit and the Climate Change Arena is good for basketball. Loved watching the Sonics there.
 
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With the exception of Spokane, all these arenas seat more than 15,000 (Spokane approx. 12,600). Bridgeport only seats about 10,000. Don't know if the NCAA will want to go with such a comparitively small arena, though Bridgeport fills the arena, while the others tend not to.
They didn't/ don't use the upper teir for any of first round or the regional games in the bigger arenas. They drop the upper curtain and only use the bottom.
 
I think UConn fans will enjoy Greenville next year. The downtown is small but tightly compressed with every major hotel. All clean and newish. Restaurants and bars galore. Park your car and walk to the games and after gatherings. Great March weather (but for thunderstorms)

https://s3.amazonaws.com/newsimg.fu...153332/aerial-downtown-greenville-cropped.jpg

aerial-downtown-greenville-cropped.jpg
I have lived in Greenville since 1994 and have seen tremendous growth in this area. What the city has done to the downtown area is nothing short of awesome. It really is a treat to spend a couple of hours downtown. There's so much to do. You MUST visit Falls Park if you come to visit.

I will be attending the Greenville Regional, regardless of which teams are there and hope I will finally get to meet some of the Boneyard posters I have interacted with on this message forum for the last few years.
 
I hope so. I am afraid however that the combined super regional will lose some of its TV appeal. I am sure however that the live attendance will suffer.

If you just take the live attendance difference in the Louisville- Michigan region versus the UCONN- NC State region it's 5,000 tickets. Probably a $250,000 to $500,000 revenue difference at a price point of $50 -$100 plus everything else the NCAA gets from what they sell. I think this is a cost cutting measure with a belief that by crunching the sites there will be greater attendance. I think it's the opposite. Now, if the venue was Vegas and you can turn it into a festival for all girl's and women's players and it became a resort draw then maybe it will work.
I tend to agree that this is a bad move but on the other hand, I have to believe they did some serious research before making this decision. We’ll just have to wait and see, I guess.
 
I think UConn fans will enjoy Greenville next year. The downtown is small but tightly compressed with every major hotel. All clean and newish. Restaurants and bars galore. Park your car and walk to the games and after gatherings. Great March weather (but for thunderstorms)

https://s3.amazonaws.com/newsimg.fu...153332/aerial-downtown-greenville-cropped.jpg

aerial-downtown-greenville-cropped.jpg


I live about 30 minutes away in Travelers rest, very excited for next year. Agree downtown Greenville is great, hope lots of fellow UConn fans come down (of course assuming UConn will be there!)
 
I live about 30 minutes away in Travelers rest, very excited for next year. Agree downtown Greenville is great, hope lots of fellow UConn fans come down (of course assuming UConn will be there!)
Simpsonville here. Greenville has exploded...but so has Simpsonville. My sister moved here 4 years ago after our father passed away, and bought a home in my neighborhood. When we're stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic on Fairview Road, in front of all the restaurants and shopping centers that have popped up in the last 28 years, I always just shake my head and say "When I first moved to Simpsonville, none of this was here!"
 
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I don’t feel bad at all for UConn going into next season. Paige, Azzi, and Caroline… that’s for sure the best 1-2-3 combination on the offensive side of the ball in the country early next season.

You’ll be fine.
And Dorka, Aliyah and Nika. I’ll take that in a heartbeat and wait to see what freshman and/or current bench player steps up.
 
Simpsonville here. Greenville has exploded...but so has Simpsonville. My sister moved here 4 years ago after our father passed away, and bought a home in my neighborhood. When we're stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic on Fairview Road, in front of all the restaurants and shopping centers that have popped up in the last 28 years, I always just shake my head and say "When I first moved to Simpsonville, none of this was here!"

I've been here 12 years. The growth in this area is crazy. Has been impossible for us to find any land & build and now they are killing downtown (TR) putting up apartments right in town and we are way too small for that there.
Maybe we will meet next year at the Tourney :)
 
1-- We gain a full season of Paige. A definite 1st team A/A arguably POY better than Boston?
2-- We gain a full season of Azzi A possible 1st team A/A being possibly the 3rd best player on the floor vs SC. Or on some days possibly the best or 2nd best?
When you have the quality of 1 and 2 above- you need "A miracle" to beat another college team? It's just that you made it sound liek it's even harder than a miracle. UCONN is NOT "Creighton."
3-- We gain a full season of Edwards (has been our best inside player. The last month she has been much different.)
4-- We gain a full season of Ducharme (at one point during the season she was arguably our best/2nd best player)
5-- Boston is not a WNBA All-Star. On March 5th Ole Miss played SC to 61-51 game. Boston got 15 points. UCONN is defenseless? If UCONN has Dorka, Edwards and DeBerry and Piath, and Brady and Patterson, there is no way a defense can be put up to stop the player that scored 15 points vs Ole Miss?
I agree with all that you say, except…”Boston is not a WNBA All-Star”. Sure not now, but unquestionably in the future.
 
I have lived in Greenville since 1994 and have seen tremendous growth in this area. What the city has done to the downtown area is nothing short of awesome. It really is a treat to spend a couple of hours downtown. There's so much to do. You MUST visit Falls Park if you come to visit.

I will be attending the Greenville Regional, regardless of which teams are there and hope I will finally get to meet some of the Boneyard posters I have interacted with on this message forum for the last few years.
I’ve heard from friends who vacationed there that it’s a wonderful place. Hope to be there (from Charlottesville) next March.
 
I think UConn fans will enjoy Greenville next year. The downtown is small but tightly compressed with every major hotel. All clean and newish. Restaurants and bars galore. Park your car and walk to the games and after gatherings. Great March weather (but for thunderstorms)

https://s3.amazonaws.com/newsimg.fu...153332/aerial-downtown-greenville-cropped.jpg

aerial-downtown-greenville-cropped.jpg

Greenville is a great place for the regional, the downtown is arguably the best in the Carolinas...and the arena's location is just about perfect.

Two qualms. If anyone is planning on driving there next year for the regional... be sure to leave a week before the games... cause it will take you about 6 days to drive from the NC border down to Greenville. Second... the arena needs to fix the issue with the ice condensation under the hardwood. It was a big issue when they had the men's tourney down there a few weeks ago. Lots of players were slipping and sliding, thankfully no major injuries occured.
 
They'll dump this crazy idea after 3-4 years....and go back to 4 regionals....unle$$ the whole women's tournament goes under altogether......
 
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