Chin Diesel
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The fouls keep piling up for Samson Johnson. “It’s dumbfounding.”
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I have definitely been a Samson Johnson supporter for years now. I marvel at his size and athleticism but I have to agree he just doesn't possess the discipline to not commit silly fouls. He should be DOMINATING the opponents like Sacred Heart and New Hampshire not fouling out. I have to believe that the coaching staff has been working with him but jeez he is a walking foul. It's a shame too considering 6'10" guys that can jump out of the building don't grow on trees but at this point, I don't know what else Hurley and staff can do to correct it.
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I hope so. I just don’t see it as a strength compared to the last two seasons. But we’re not playing against UConn 23 and 24 teams.
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The sooner we just get over the difficult conversations with Hass and Sam and put them back in their natural habitat dominating the second unit, the sooner this team will reach its potential. Give them the same minutes, but better rotation construction and chance of success with them coming in to battle/dominate the backups.
My boiling hot, Mt. Doom temperature take is that our team would be at its absolute peak if Ahmad Nowell starts getting 20+ mpg right now, and I'm not sure what Mahaney brings that others can't provide? I don't think that's realistic so will not project it below but probably the biggest risk/reward right now.
My Lineups from the first 3 games:
G - Solo - 30 min
G - JRoss 20 min
F - McNeeley - 30 min
F - Karaban - 30 min
C - Tarris - 25 min
First G - Hass or Mahaney or Ahmad depending on matchup (need defense/distributing or a scoring or stone cold killer?)
First W - Jaylin OR Abraham depending on matchup (need rebounding/scoring or 3&D help?)
First P - Samson
My boiling hot, Mt. Doom temperature take is that our team would be at its absolute peak if Ahmad Nowell starts getting 20+ mpg right now, and I'm not sure what Mahaney brings that others can't provide? I don't think that's realistic so will not project it below but probably the biggest risk/reward right now.
My Lineups from the first 3 games:
G - Solo - 30 min
G - JRoss 20 min
F - McNeeley - 30 min
F - Karaban - 30 min
C - Tarris - 25 min
First G - Hass or Mahaney or Ahmad depending on matchup (need defense/distributing or a scoring or stone cold killer?)
First W - Jaylin OR Abraham depending on matchup (need rebounding/scoring or 3&D help?)
First P - Samson
SJ is going to foul and get "baited" into fouling by opponents who have scouted us. What would be an improvement is if the fouls he committed were "smart" fouls. Not wasted fouls/silly fouls so that he could stay on the floor as long as Danny sees his value to do so. He is forcing Dan to put him on the bench too early in games. Eventually Reed will begin to grab more PT if this continues to happen.
On a more positive note- He seems to be much more comfortable with the ball in his hands on offense-both to put it on the floor and to pass-facilitate- than in previous years. His post moves seem to have improved from last year as well. This is his last year in Storrs-Gotta make it happen and figure it out.
On a more positive note- He seems to be much more comfortable with the ball in his hands on offense-both to put it on the floor and to pass-facilitate- than in previous years. His post moves seem to have improved from last year as well. This is his last year in Storrs-Gotta make it happen and figure it out.
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Agree with this as the optimal starting lineup based on the first two games (+exhibition). But I'm afraid I have to disagree that the team is better off with Nowell getting 20+ minutes and playing over Mahaney. Aiden is way more experienced and proven. He was great in the exhibition. I think he needs a little more time. I think the team's upside with him this year is greater than developing Nowell on the fly with big minutes.
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We're fortunate that we're just 2 games into the season where we all can hope and pray the staff can teach some of these terrible habits out of him, and he can somehow learn to reduce the urge of doing the wrong things he keeps on doing.
He does a lot of very good things and is productive when he's on the floor.
One thing the staff could try, which I've seen in the past, is to bring a foul prone players off the bench instead of starting them. Let the refs get those early quick whistles out of their system on other players and also give the coaching staff the opportunity to see how the refs are officiating the game and instructing SJ on how aggressive he can be. That's not to say he'll actually be able to follow those instructions, but it might help reduce his nightly foul numbers by 1 which might help to keep him on the floor a little longer.
The one downside to that is it does impact the rotations and he does some things that Reed is either still learning and/or is not as good at. Maybe bringing him off the bench can also be that change of pace dynamic that Hurley liked and spoke about in the past. SJ and Diarra are both sort of energizer bunnies that might provide greater overall value coming off the bench. Dan Hurley seems to have made that decision with Hass with Mahaney starting. The one downside to that is you always want to come out of the gate fast (as in productive), and having your best combination of players on the floor to start the game is usually the preferred way to go. Both Reed and Mahaney seemed to have slow starts (first halves) so starting with both might has its downside. Though now is a good time to try things out.
I'd sit SJ next to one of the assistant coaches at the start of the game who can talk through how he should defend in the situations taking place. Then put him in after a few minutes and hope he can execute what he is being taught. Regardless how they go about it, they somehow have to get things through to him so that he can stay on the floor longer. We know Danny and the staff are well aware of this, and will try what they can to coach these bad habits out of him. Lots of games and learning experiences to go. I'm hoping he improves as the season goes on.
He does seem to get 1 or 2 bad calls against him in many games, which seems to happen with bigs that have not built reputation of being able to play aggressively without fouling. He has this herky-jerky way about his game that I think influences the refs. I wonder if he would be better off trying to defend in a more smooth manner and learn to explode at the right time. He is an explosive athlete but tends to look kind of jumpy which might be part of the reason why he gets some of these marginal calls. With that said, he also seems to pick up over aggressive and mental error type of fouls (reaching in, playing too aggressive far from the basket, jumping into players too aggressively around the basket, etc.). These type of mental mistakes not only result in fouls, but sometimes put him out of position. I hope he can correct these things for his sake and the sake of the team.
He does a lot of very good things and is productive when he's on the floor.
One thing the staff could try, which I've seen in the past, is to bring a foul prone players off the bench instead of starting them. Let the refs get those early quick whistles out of their system on other players and also give the coaching staff the opportunity to see how the refs are officiating the game and instructing SJ on how aggressive he can be. That's not to say he'll actually be able to follow those instructions, but it might help reduce his nightly foul numbers by 1 which might help to keep him on the floor a little longer.
The one downside to that is it does impact the rotations and he does some things that Reed is either still learning and/or is not as good at. Maybe bringing him off the bench can also be that change of pace dynamic that Hurley liked and spoke about in the past. SJ and Diarra are both sort of energizer bunnies that might provide greater overall value coming off the bench. Dan Hurley seems to have made that decision with Hass with Mahaney starting. The one downside to that is you always want to come out of the gate fast (as in productive), and having your best combination of players on the floor to start the game is usually the preferred way to go. Both Reed and Mahaney seemed to have slow starts (first halves) so starting with both might has its downside. Though now is a good time to try things out.
I'd sit SJ next to one of the assistant coaches at the start of the game who can talk through how he should defend in the situations taking place. Then put him in after a few minutes and hope he can execute what he is being taught. Regardless how they go about it, they somehow have to get things through to him so that he can stay on the floor longer. We know Danny and the staff are well aware of this, and will try what they can to coach these bad habits out of him. Lots of games and learning experiences to go. I'm hoping he improves as the season goes on.
He does seem to get 1 or 2 bad calls against him in many games, which seems to happen with bigs that have not built reputation of being able to play aggressively without fouling. He has this herky-jerky way about his game that I think influences the refs. I wonder if he would be better off trying to defend in a more smooth manner and learn to explode at the right time. He is an explosive athlete but tends to look kind of jumpy which might be part of the reason why he gets some of these marginal calls. With that said, he also seems to pick up over aggressive and mental error type of fouls (reaching in, playing too aggressive far from the basket, jumping into players too aggressively around the basket, etc.). These type of mental mistakes not only result in fouls, but sometimes put him out of position. I hope he can correct these things for his sake and the sake of the team.
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I'm sorry. if he hasn't figured it out now after 2 years and another offseason of work...against two cupcakes....I don't know who he's going to figure it out against.
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I love what he brings to the team in terms of easy buckets based on length and athleticism, but his rebounding is way below average for a frontcourt player regardless of how many minutes he plays.
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Evers would hang him out to dry, so the LB would break him in two.
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You would think this would be correctable by having one on one drills where guys drive at him, near him etc. and he has to only wall up with hands up until he gets it.
Maybe they have and the in game adrenalin gets him?
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DC had challenges as a freshman, and early last year, trying to block too many guards/wings when all he needed to do with stand tall and make those shots difficult. He did figure that out. Seemed like he'd get pissed whenever anyone scored over him, but that happens. The goal is to get those shots from 50% to 40% or whatever. Just cause a few misses.
Samson is hedging and I think he needs to stop trying to steal the ball from guards. If you watch Adama and Whaley hedging they used size to cut off penetration but rarely reached for the ball. Samson is reaching for the ball, acting like he's a wing.
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Reed had a stupid reach in on Sat
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Samson plays more like a wing than a 5. He glides to the rim, slams, and does some decent passing. Not really great on D with the fouls, and not really a back downer.
Reed, Jr. is a 5 on this team, and can back down guys, rebound, box out.
At this point (yeah, 2 games in, so a whole shaker of salt) - Reed, Jr. should start.
Reed, Jr. is a 5 on this team, and can back down guys, rebound, box out.
At this point (yeah, 2 games in, so a whole shaker of salt) - Reed, Jr. should start.
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But that is a big part of the problem. We know refs are going to blow calls so don't give them anything easy to call against you, especially 20 ft from the basket or away from the ball.
I'd keep him in the starting rotation but for a different reason than most think. When he does have that game where he can stay out of foul trouble, it will let Reed be able to 'bang underneath' a little more aggressively. Also, Reed seems like he is smart enough to know that when SJ picks a quick 2, that he needs to find a way to stretch his time on the floor.
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There are (at least) two secondary effects of Johnson getting in to foul trouble early in the game. When Johnson has to go to the bench.
1. When Reed comes in, he now has in his head the starter already has two fouls, and it could (I would say 'does') cause him to play more tentatively, because, as a player, you don't want both of you to be in foul trouble. Reed, by his nature, is a physical player on offense with his post moves and on both ends with his rebounding. Now, he might be more hesitant due to a fear of picking up fouls.
2. When Reed is coming in early, he now has to be aware of how much he is exerting himself because he knows he may be playing 14-16 minutes without a break instead of Johnson and him rotating.
1. When Reed comes in, he now has in his head the starter already has two fouls, and it could (I would say 'does') cause him to play more tentatively, because, as a player, you don't want both of you to be in foul trouble. Reed, by his nature, is a physical player on offense with his post moves and on both ends with his rebounding. Now, he might be more hesitant due to a fear of picking up fouls.
2. When Reed is coming in early, he now has to be aware of how much he is exerting himself because he knows he may be playing 14-16 minutes without a break instead of Johnson and him rotating.
Very few Bigs have the foot speed to defend Sam when he's rolling to the hoop/lobs/filling the lanes. If you want him out of games so that he's a non-factor offensively-You try to get him into foul trouble early. He's a "handsy" defender- Reaching for the ball,etc. Doesn't stay on his feet and defend vertically with arms/hands extended ala Karaban/McNeeley/Clingan (second half of last year) in order to stay in games.I think it was Spencer who said you've got to occasionally concede a basket and not get into foul trouble so that you can help your team by staying on the floor . Danny will coach him up to be more disciplined. It's the next step in his development for this season.
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In two games Karaban has 11 blocks. Johnson has 5. No one else has over 2.
Johnson is a defensive presence that not only blocks shots, he prevents them. SJ 's wingspan is 7-5 on a 6-10 frame not to mention he can jump out of the gym. He is a defensive presence unlike any other on the team. Hurley wants that defensive presence but he may have to sacrifice the high hedge to some degree to keep it on the court.
Johnson is a defensive presence that not only blocks shots, he prevents them. SJ 's wingspan is 7-5 on a 6-10 frame not to mention he can jump out of the gym. He is a defensive presence unlike any other on the team. Hurley wants that defensive presence but he may have to sacrifice the high hedge to some degree to keep it on the court.
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Well said. I hope you're right. He does a lot of good things. I hope Hurley and the staff can get through to him.
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Yep. Good news is he showed he was capable of it in the URI scrimmage. When I did the exhaustive review of his play in that game, he did have a couple clear instances where he made the right decision and just conceded a hoop versus getting an over-the-back foul on a block attempt.
Teams already have plenty of game tape showing that Mahaney is currently vulnerable to letting a dribble drive get past him. And also that Samson is currently prone to handsy fouls on high screen switches, as well as to fouls when he switches over to defend guard penetration into the lane.
It's up to both of them to get better ASAP...with both of them in the starting lineup, any decent coach is going to run a ton of plays in the first 4 minutes to test and exploit those issues.