The Days of Bundlers (networks and cable/satellite providers) Are Nearing an End

[whaler11]

Yes, but it's not the right product. When it's disparate you're not going to get that much traction. You might as well be showing curling on Saturday afternoons. I don't necessarily disagree about Rutgers. All the Rutgers alum I knew lived in New Jersey and commuted into the city, some from as far south as Princeton. But, they are a piece of the puzzle.

Good product and consistency is the key. If the Big Ten (or ACC in basketball) had the Game of the Week in NYC, i.e., UCONN, Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska playing conference games or games against high profile OOC opponents in NYC, they would get some mind share. This interest would spill over into regional games. Presently, neither the Big Ten or ACC has is a vehicle to build knowledge, association, or an emotional connection with NYC viewers.

Look at Big East basketball. It was able to achieve a level of critical mass with St. Johns, Seton Hall, Syracuse, UCONN, Notre Dame, PITT, etc. As a result, the Big East Championship drew a large non-alumni following.

If there was a team in NYC sure they would move the needle. There isn't and I really can't see a conference playing many neutral site games there. Look at the USC attendance last year. The demand doesn't exist. Maryland is going to move a decent home game to NYC? Why so their fans can revolt? Penn State? Who is paying them the difference?

College basketball has always been popular in NYC. Building the Big East Tournament is nothing like trying to get a college football stronghold.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

But NYC has forever had televised college football and outside of Notre Dame generally gets yawns. Rutgers joining the Big 10 does nothing in the city. Piscataway may as well be on the moon to someone who lives in Manhattan and isn't an RU grad or from North Jersey.

Looking at the past to determine a vision is not the definition of a visionary.

 

[whaler11]

Looking at the past to determine a vision is not the definition of a visionary.

Yeah any stupid idea in the world can be defended with nonsense like that so it doesn't really add all that much.

 

[itgoeslike]

If there was a team in NYC sure they would move the needle. There isn't and I really can't see a conference playing a dozen neutral site games there. Look at the USC attendance last year. The demand doesn't exist.

College basketball has always been popular in NYC. Building the Big East Tournament is nothing like trying to get a college football stronghold.

You are missing the point. A single USC game is akin to showing curling once a year. You are not going to build a following that way. You need consistency and buzz that achieves a critical mass. I am sure people said similar things about the car, airplane, and an all sports network. Lastly, I stated above, I wasn't proposing 12 neutral site games.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

Yeah any stupid idea in the world can be defended with nonsense like that so it doesn't really add all that much.

And UConn never became nationally relevant in basketball because it was a stupid idea a cow college located in a forgettable pasture outside Willimantic could never, and I mean NEVER, compete with the basketball bluebloods in North Carolina/Kentucky/Kansas.

 

[woomba]

Nobody suggested a weekly neutral game in NYC, except you.

I'll explain in a little more detail. This package could be anchored by 4-6 conference games played at Yankee Stadium and Northern NJ venues. The home teams could be UCONN, Rutgers, Maryland and Penn State. The revenue split could be adjusted for these games. In addition, other conference games could be crafted, i.e., Nebraska/Wisconsin (and other Western teams) could agree to a NYC game to gain a presence in the market. There could be 1 or 2 neutral games annually that pit a B1G school against a top team from another conference, i.e., Michigan/Notre Dame, Ohio State/Texas, etc. The balance of the games could be regional conference match ups (which would get a bump) or high profile conference match ups played in other parts of the country, i.e., Michigan/Ohio State.

What you are thinking and what I am proposing are two different things.

YOU said Game of the Week. Jeez man. So instead of 12 games your idea is about half that (5-7) being played in around the NYC area. The general premise is fine, it's still way too many games to ever get off the ground.

The current idea that is being kicked around is 2 regular season games (1 regional neutral game for Rutgers/Penn/Maryland + 1 OOC for non-Eastern team) + 1 bowl game (Pinstripe).

 

[itgoeslike]

YOU said Game of the Week. Jeez man. So instead of 12 games your idea is about half that (5-7) being played in around the NYC area. The general premise is fine, it's still way too many games to ever get off the ground.

The current idea that is being kicked around is 2 regular season games (1 regional neutral game for Rutgers/Penn/Maryland + 1 OOC for non-Eastern team) + 1 bowl game (Pinstripe).

No. What's being proposed provides better visibility, but doesn't necessarily build a following. A NYC Game of the Week is a concept that provides a consistent presence over the course of the season, which is anchored by 6 B1G conference games played at a NYC venue. It's all about the mix.

4 Penn State/UCONN/Rutgers/Maryland Home Conference Games at NYC venues
1 B1G versus high-profile OOC at NYC venues
1 Western team matchup at NYC venue
4 Penn State/UCONN/Rutgers/Maryland games played at their respective stadiums against top tier B1G opponents or conference rivals
2 High-Profile conference matchups not played in NYC, i.e. Michigan at Ohio State

Throw in a B1G championship game and select bowls and you have your programming. There will be logistical issues and it won't happen overnight, but I suspect this is what Delany is working towards.

 

[woomba]

No. What's being proposed provides better visibility, but doesn't necessarily build a following. A NYC Game of the Week is a concept that provides a consistent presence over the course of the season, which is anchored by 6 B1G conference games played at a NYC venue. It's all about the mix.

4 Penn State/UCONN/Rutgers/Maryland Home Conference Games at NYC venues
1 B1G versus high-profile OOC at NYC venues
1 Western team matchup at NYC venue
4 Penn State/UCONN/Rutgers/Maryland games played at their respective stadiums against top tier B1G opponents or conference rivals
2 High-Profile conference matchups not played in NYC, i.e. Michigan at Ohio State

Throw in a B1G championship game and select bowls and you have your programming. There will be logistical issues and it won't happen overnight, but I suspect this is what Delany is working towards.

As long as you realize that an extensive plan like that has a 0% chance of actually happening nor is in the works that's fine.

 

[whaler11]

And UConn never became nationally relevant in basketball because it was a stupid idea a cow college located in a forgettable pasture outside Willimantic could never, and I mean NEVER, compete with the basketball bluebloods in North Carolina/Kentucky/Kansas.

If your argument for any crackpot scheme is something unlikely happened in the past then really this is just another platitude that means nothing and has little to nothing to do with the issue at hand.

 

[whaler11]

Thinking NYC isn't interested in college football isn't particularly gloom and doom. Assuming that the future will be gloomy because the past was is.

Why is it gloomy to understand that College Football is probably never going to be popular in NYC. Why do I care if college football is popular in NYC. UConn fans would do well to worry about college football being popular in Connecticut before they worry about other places.

 

[whaler11]

I'm not convinced that I won't end up paying similar money for fewer channels.

Because you shouldn't be. You'll pay at least the same and get less in the long run. Not sure where people think the revenue to create programming comes from - netflix has programming to stream because the networks like AMC and FX collect subscriber fees to create the shows. If the small amounts they get from 100 million homes go away - they raise the monthly fee to a point where few sign up and it's a revenue death spiral.

Whatever it is you or anyone likes it's subsidized by the 95%+ of people who don't watch it.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

If your argument for any crackpot scheme is something unlikely happened in the past then really this is just another platitude that means nothing and has little to nothing to do with the issue at hand.

I don't think UConn being nationally relevant in football is a "crackpot scheme." That you do is why I think of you as gloomy.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

Why is it gloomy to understand that College Football is probably never going to be popular in NYC. I suppose because someone who believes others will never amount to anything strikes me as less than sunny. Why do I care if college football is popular in NYC. You don't, obviously. UConn fans would do well to worry about college football being popular in Connecticut before they worry about other places. Mmmm, yeah, think small, that's the ticket.

 

[whaler11]

I don't think UConn being nationally relevant in football is a "crackpot scheme." That you do is why I think of you as gloomy.

We have been talking about NYC as a college football television market not if UConn can be nationally relevant in football. Your posts are constant moving targets and your rationalization is generally DREAM BIG but no substance on how to actually deliver on any of these dreams. So you can go on planning on how to spend your powerball winnings and I'll continue to worry about incremental gains. One can't get nationally relevant until they are locally relevant.

 

[itgoeslike]

As long as you realize that an extensive plan like that has a 0% chance of actually happening nor is in the works that's fine.

Listen man, or woman, the only thing certain is that you don't have a clue about the B1G's plans. What was put forth are hypotheticals for discussion on a forum, and was initially in response to Whaler as to why college football has such little mind share in NYC. Since there isn't a hometown team, one has to devise a viable product that will build a following. FYI, the B1G has already implemented moves to increase visibility in New York. The next you and Delany are grabbing dinner together, you need to tell him that he's making a big mistake. Oh, and thank you for your continued enlightenment and keeping us all grounded in your reality.

 

[woomba]

Listen man, or woman, the only thing certain is that you don't have a clue about the B1G's plans. What was put forth are hypotheticals for discussion on a forum, and was initially in response to Whaler as to why college football has such little mind share in NYC. Since there isn't a hometown team, one has to devise a viable product that will build a following. FYI, the B1G has already implemented moves to increase visibility in New York. The next you and Delany are grabbing dinner together, you need to tell him that he's making a big mistake. Oh, and thank you for your continued enlightenment and keeping us all grounded in your reality.

You don't need to have the ear of a conference president to tell what ideas have no chance of making it. Teams with very large stadiums bring in up to $10M for each home game and millions more for the local economy. You think they will leave that on the table for a lower payout for the sake of raising the profile of the NYC market to the extent your scenario would entail - especially for teams like Nebraska and Wisconsin who have a pretty small NYC alumni base? Neutral site payouts do not come close to the money that these schools will be leaving on the table.

A few games a year is fine, but the scope of what you're suggesting will mean leaving tons of money on the table for the local economies of these schools - it'll never work.

If you feel strongly about this, you should push for UConn playing all of its major home games in NYC instead of the Rent and see how much buyin you get.

 

[whaler11]

Listen man, or woman, the only thing certain is that you don't have a clue about the B1G's plans. What was put forth are hypotheticals for discussion on a forum, and was initially in response to Whaler as to why college football has such little mind share in NYC. Since there isn't a hometown team, one has to devise a viable product that will build a following. FYI, the B1G has already implemented moves to increase visibility in New York. The next you and Delany are grabbing dinner together, you need to tell him that he's making a big mistake. Oh, and thank you for your continued enlightenment and keeping us all grounded in your reality.

You have to be open to seeing the flaws in what you posted. It would make some sense in connecting the league to NYC and I could see the Big 10 trying to get involved with the Kickoff Classic but these big schools aren't playing a ton of OOC games against name schools and they need them to sell their season tickets because the Big 10 is pretty watered down. The bigger it gets the less you see OSU or Wisconsin or Michigan or Nebraska at home.

If you've got a year where your home games are Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers and Purdue you aren't going to be in much of a hurry to harm your season ticket sales and give up home field advantage to play Penn State at the Meadowlands.

Bowl games in NYC are terrible for anyone who can't get in and out the same day. Impossibly expensive flights and hotels at the holidays for an outdoor game in the dead of winter is hardly attractive to Wisconsin, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa etc.

 

[woomba]

You have to be open to seeing the flaws in what you posted. It would make some sense in connecting the league to NYC and I could see the Big 10 trying to get involved with the Kickoff Classic but these big schools aren't playing a ton of OOC games against name schools and they need them to sell their season tickets because the Big 10 is pretty watered down. The bigger it gets the less you see OSU or Wisconsin or Michigan or Nebraska at home.

If you've got a year where your home games are Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers and Purdue you aren't going to be in much of a hurry to harm your season ticket sales and give up home field advantage to play Penn State at the Meadowlands.

Bowl games in NYC are terrible for anyone who can't get in and out the same day. Impossibly expensive flights and hotels at the holidays for an outdoor game in the dead of winter is hardly attractive to Wisconsin, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa etc.

Good point about season ticket sales - gate revenue still makes up about 45% of the total revenue for a FB program despite the rise of TV deals so there's sensitivity there in general.

 

[itgoeslike]

You have to be open to seeing the flaws in what you posted. It would make some sense in connecting the league to NYC and I could see the Big 10 trying to get involved with the Kickoff Classic but these big schools aren't playing a ton of OOC games against name schools and they need them to sell their season tickets because the Big 10 is pretty watered down. The bigger it gets the less you see OSU or Wisconsin or Michigan or Nebraska at home.

What does that have to with what I proposed? Nothing.

If you've got a year where your home games are Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers and Purdue you aren't going to be in much of a hurry to harm your season ticket sales and give up home field advantage to play Penn State at the Meadowlands.

No teams gives up home field advantage under what I proposed, except in remote instances. See below.

Bowl games in NYC are terrible for anyone who can't get in and out the same day. Impossibly expensive flights and hotels at the holidays for an outdoor game in the dead of winter is hardly attractive to Wisconsin, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa etc.

I never proposed adding more NYC bowl games beyond the Pinstripe which already exists. What are you talking about?

The following is what I proposed, which has little to do with what you posted. The key is have enough games to achieve a critical mass.

Penn State/UCONN/Rutgers/Maryland Home Conference Games at NYC venues

No one loses a home game to come and play a regularly scheduled away game at the schools mentioned above. UCONN would end up playing 1 home game in NYC instead of the Rent (UCONN would have to get a pass on home game restrictions). Maybe UCONN plays every other year in NYC. Either way not a big deal and would be great for building the UCONN brand. I don't think any school gets affected at the box office except maybe Penn State. UCONN, Penn State and Rutgers all have large alumni bases in NYC. All schools are within a short driving distance to NYC. We're talking 1 game every year or two years.

B1G versus high-profile OOC at NYC venues

A particular Big school would only see this game once in 6-10 years, and the conference is actively pursuing these types of matchups.

Big Ten West team matchup at NYC venue

This translates into a BTW school traveling to New York every 4 years, which is a home game once every 8 years (but it's an in-conference split, it's not like they are losing revenue to another conference. Easily solvable). Again, maybe this gets pushed out every two years and alternates with the BIG versus OOC game, so it could work out to a home game every 16 years.

Penn State/UCONN/Rutgers/Maryland games played at their respective stadiums against top tier B1G opponents or conference rivals

These are regular conference games. You could feature a school a week from the above list over a four week period.

High-Profile conference matchups not played in NYC, i.e. Michigan at Ohio State

These are regular conference games.

This is not a stretch (no matter what you and Woomba believe) and most of the games are plain vanilla conference games just like they'll be played in the coming year. The key here is to build up the frequency, locally, so people are familiar with the product and can start to build an emotional connection. Like I said earlier, it isn't going to happen overnight, but with time, the Big Ten could develop a following beyond their alumni bases. The ACC should be trying to do the same with basketball.

 

[whaler11]

People don't make emotional attachments to conferences. They make emotional attachments to teams/schools.

You might remember how many UConn fans complained about playing Notre Dame at neutral sites. Iowa and Nebraska are never going to want to play each other in NYC in front of 30k people. Minnesota/Wisconsin? Purdue/Northwestern might not draw 15k.

The schools will never do what you are proposing. Maryland playing home games jn NYC? Their fan base would revolt and it makes zero sense. No one in NYC who isn't related to Boomer Esiason is going to be a Maryland fan.

The conference works for the schools. Not the other way around.

 

[B1GALUM]

FWIW. Jim Delany discussing plan for future events in the NYC area although no details provided but says details will be coming soon. Starts around 1:35.
http://www.btn.com/video/?select=VK_EpknxdurF

 

[itgoeslike]

People don't make emotional attachments to conferences. They make emotional attachments to teams/schools.

You might remember how many UConn fans complained about playing Notre Dame at neutral sites. Iowa and Nebraska are never going to want to play each other in NYC in front of 30k people. Minnesota/Wisconsin? Purdue/Northwestern might not draw 15k.

The schools will never do what you are proposing. Maryland playing home games jn NYC? Their fan base would revolt and it makes zero sense. No one in NYC who isn't related to Boomer Esiason is going to be a Maryland fan.

The conference works for the schools. Not the other way around.

Your comments once again don't appear to apply to my posts, but I'll do my best to respond to them. The emotional connection is with the teams within the league. USC coming once every ten years is not going move the needle. The conference is the framework to build the relationship. If your talking about fans that complained about the prospect of playing Notre Dame at Fenway Park they were wrong. Nebraska and Wisconsin aren't going to have a problem playing a high profile game once every several years. The Northwestern game would most likely be scheduled at the Rent. Maryland is playing in Brooklyn in the coming months and will have its fan base show up. They would show up along with fans of their B1G opponent, especially if it was once every two years. UCF is playing Penn State in Ireland, UCONN played in Germany, the PAC are sending their football teams to China and Europe, http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/7/10/4511704/pac-12-football-china-europe

In contrast to your assertions that there is zero potential for college football in NYC, the B1G is moving forward with a greater local presence. Your comments appear to reflect what is and what was, and not necessarily might be. I think we will have to agree to disagree.

 

[whaler11]

Your comments once again don't appear to apply to my posts, but I'll do my best to respond to them. The emotional connection is with the teams within the league. USC coming once every ten years is not going move the needle. The conference is the framework to build the relationship. If your talking about fans that complained about the prospect of playing Notre Dame at Fenway Park they were wrong. Nebraska and Wisconsin aren't going to have a problem playing a high profile game once every several years. The Northwestern game would most likely be scheduled at the Rent. Maryland is playing in Brooklyn in the coming months and will have its fan base show up. They would show up along with fans of their B1G opponent, especially if it was once every two years. UCF is playing Penn State in Ireland, UCONN played in Germany, the PAC are sending their football teams to China and Europe, http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/7/10/4511704/pac-12-football-china-europe

In contrast to your assertions that there is zero potential for college football in NYC, the B1G is moving forward with a greater local presence. Your comments appear to reflect what is and what was, and not necessarily might be. I think we will have to agree to disagree.

I have replied to your posts. You do not get where the emotional connection lies. It is with a single school. Caring about the conference comes from the connection with a single school.

You brush away huge issues with your proposal: Nebraska is not giving up a home game in Lincoln to play a game in NYC. Schools like Nebraska do not give a flying **** about NYC. Wisconsin is not giving up a game in Madison. If the Big 10 office called these schools with this nonsense they would hang up.

There is only one facility in NYC to play football games before November. What do you think the attendance would be at the Meadowlands the fourth random college game of the season? 13k?

And for a bonus you are crossing basketball with football to come up with complete nonsense. UCONN played a college basketball game in Germany so Ohio State is going to punt a game in Columbus in front of 105k to play in front of 35k in New Jersey.

Get. A. Clue.

 

[itgoeslike]

I have replied to your posts. You do not get where the emotional connection lies. It is with a single school. Caring about the conference comes from the connection with a single school.

You brush away huge issues with your proposal: Nebraska is not giving up a home game in Lincoln to play a game in NYC. Schools like Nebraska do not give a flying about NYC. Wisconsin is not giving up a game in Madison. If the Big 10 office called these schools with this nonsense they would hang up.

There is only one facility in NYC to play football games before November. What do you think the attendance would be at the Meadowlands the fourth random college game of the season? 13k?

And for a bonus you are crossing basketball with football to come up with complete nonsense. UCONN played a college basketball game in Germany so Ohio State is going to punt a game in Columbus in front of 105k to play in front of 35k in New Jersey.

Get. A. Clue.

You're the one that's clueless. Thanks for repeating over and over again obvious crap like "fans like teams." No . Also, the fact you keep saying that Ohio State is giving up home games proves you have basic comprehension issues. OSU is going to eventually play an AWAY game at Rutgers, which could easily be played at a NYC venue. You also zero in on irrelevant parts of the conversation, oddly suggesting I was trying to slip basketball in between Penn State football playing in Ireland and PAC football teams playing in China. WTF does that have to do with anything? "I mentioned UCONN going to Germany because this is a UCONN board and because it blows a hole in your theory that teams would never travel out of the Midwest. Just look at Notre Dame's desire to represent in strategic and fan laden parts of the country. You also underestimate the B1G's fan base in the NYC region.

Here's the point I was making: Over time, if you increase frequency, visibility and buzz in a sustained and structured way, you will see an increase in fan support and media ratings. If you need to find a former teacher or smart adult to help explain, please do.

Apparently your forté is to sit around and abruptly disagree with people without providing any value-added insight into the discussion. Thank God you weren't around to derail UCONN's success before it ever got started.

 

[whaler11]

You're the one that's clueless. Thanks for repeating over and over again obvious crap like "fans like teams." No . Also, the fact you keep saying that Ohio State is giving up home games proves you have basic comprehension issues. OSU is going to eventually play an AWAY game at Rutgers, which could easily be played at a NYC venue. You also zero in on irrelevant parts of the conversation, oddly suggesting I was trying to slip basketball in between Penn State football playing in Ireland and PAC football teams playing in China. WTF does that have to do with anything? "I mentioned UCONN going to Germany because this is a UCONN board and because it blows a hole in your theory that teams would never travel out of the Midwest. Just look at Notre Dame's desire to represent in strategic and fan laden parts of the country. You also underestimate the B1G's fan base in the NYC region.

Here's the point I was making: Over time, if you increase frequency, visibility and buzz in a sustained and structured way, you will see an increase in fan support and media ratings. If you need to find a former teacher or smart adult to help explain, please do.

Apparently your forté is to sit around and abruptly disagree with people without providing any value-added insight into the discussion. Thank God you weren't around to derail UCONN's success before it ever got started.

Good lord. You've gone from Western Big 10 schools playing conference games in New York to Ohio State will play at Rutgers.

My forte is to point out obvious holes in delusions of grandeur. Your proposal is for Eastern Big 10 teams to give up home games to play at the Meadowlands.

Rutgers doesn't want Ohio State at the Meadowlands. Maryland doesn't want Michigan at the Meadowlands. Penn State doesn't want Wisconsin at the Meadowlands. This board made it clear UConn fans wanted Michigan at Rentschler. They all want those games at home because they want to leverage them to sell tickets and they want home field advantage.

You don't get that the schools care about themselves and not the conference. No coach worth a damn is going to risk his future for the good of the conference.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

We have been talking about NYC as a college football television market not if UConn can be nationally relevant in football. Your posts are constant moving targets and your rationalization is generally DREAM BIG but no substance on how to actually deliver on any of these dreams. So you can go on planning on how to spend your powerball winnings and I'll continue to worry about incremental gains. One can't get nationally relevant until they are locally relevant.

Note to self: focus; stay on point; think incrementally; play "small ball" (no home runs thank you very much); figure out how to make UConn relevant in Storrs first, Manchester can wait...

Have you ever worked for IBM big guy? The reason I ask is because the first hard drive they put in a personal computer was 10MB. The boys in the blue suits didn't believe anybody could ever max out a drive that big. Just wondering if you were one of them.

Just to tie things up from my perspective, I've been talking about UConn's presence in NYC as part of a plan for national relevance. I've been talking about the B1G's presence in NYC as part of a plan to capture the nations largest and most under served market to bolster their revenue stream going forward. I've been talking about how we should be trying to understand pricing models going forward when content providers stream themselves and ISPs are just an interface and can charge accordingly...

You've been talking about New York isn't a college football town because, well, it just isn't. And it never will be because, well, it just won't. Why don't people see that? Simple as a pimple really. Freakin grandiosity pimps. Who needs them?

 

[RegisteredUconn]

You don't need to have the ear of a conference president to tell what ideas have no chance of making it. Teams with very large stadiums bring in up to $10M for each home game and millions more for the local economy. You think they will leave that on the table for a lower payout for the sake of raising the profile of the NYC market to the extent your scenario would entail - especially for teams like Nebraska and Wisconsin who have a pretty small NYC alumni base? Neutral site payouts do not come close to the money that these schools will be leaving on the table.

A few games a year is fine, but the scope of what you're suggesting will mean leaving tons of money on the table for the local economies of these schools - it'll never work.

If you feel strongly about this, you should push for UConn playing all of its major home games in NYC instead of the Rent and see how much buyin you get.

I get in the mail (e-and snail) everyday telling me how somebody is going to give me a discount if I sign up for their stuff. They're willing to forgo some revenue today for greater revenue tomorrow. Go figure. Do I think that schools want to maximize revenues? Yes I do. Do I think the folks in Lincoln and Madison would be willing to play the occasional game in NYC if it meant substantially greater revenues for the conference and, by extension, them? In a New York Minute. And greater revenues don't even address intangibles like the value of "Road trip to New York" in a recruiting pitch.

 

[billybud]

LOL...I remember that 10 meg hard drive...Everything is relative, it was a huge upgrade from my 64 kb Commodore 64.

Your post made me review my PC history...And feel very old.

We all have changed how we use our PCs, based on their increased capability. In terms of entertainment, the 64 could play a version of Pong....I now have many, many movies stored, songs, pictures....

 

[itgoeslike]

Good lord. You've gone from Western Big 10 schools playing conference games in New York to Ohio State will play at Rutgers.

My forte is to point out obvious holes in delusions of grandeur. Your proposal is for Eastern Big 10 teams to give up home games to play at the Meadowlands.

Rutgers doesn't want Ohio State at the Meadowlands. Maryland doesn't want Michigan at the Meadowlands. Penn State doesn't want Wisconsin at the Meadowlands. This board made it clear UConn fans wanted Michigan at Rentschler. They all want those games at home because they want to leverage them to sell tickets and they want home field advantage.

You don't get that the schools care about themselves and not the conference. No coach worth a damn is going to risk his future for the good of the conference.

The B1G universities will continue to expand their local presence in NYC in the coming years, regardless of your assertion that NYC will always have zero interest in CF. The universities will do it out of self interest because it will ultimately make them more money, not less money. Obviously, they know something you don't. My money is on their vision, and not your lack thereof.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

LOL...I remember that 10 meg hard drive...Everything is relative, it was a huge upgrade from my 64 kb Commodore 64.

Your post made me review my PC history...And feel very old.

We all have changed how we use our PCs, based on their increased capability. In terms of entertainment, the 64 could play a version of Pong....I now have many, many movies stored, songs, pictures....

Ah, memory lane... It is a beautiful place to visit. I wonder how many of those original IBM drives I'd need to accommodate all the files I have stored today.

Be careful though or whaler will turn this into a "How Can We Get the Whale Back to Hartford?" thread.