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The Cooper decision

HooperScooper said:
In that same search the next section is this. Did I miss the Karaban announcement or am I getting really old? Lol

Here's a more detailed list of players who have declared for the 2025 NBA Draft:
  • Cooper Flagg: Duke (Forward)
  • Kon Knueppel: Duke (Guard)
  • Dylan Harper: Rutgers (Guard)
  • Kasparas Jakucionis: Illinois (Guard)
  • Egor Demin: BYU (Forward)
  • Tre Johnson: Texas (Guard)
  • Liam Mcneeley: UConn (Forward)
  • Nolan Traore: Saint-Quentin (France)
  • Asa Newell: Georgia (Guard)
  • Derik Queen: Maryland (Center)
  • Boogie Fland: Arkansas (Guard)
  • Alex Karaban: UConn (Forward)
  • Collin Murray-Boyles: South Carolina (Forward)
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Ha! Come on. That's too good. The internet really is just junk mail. Neil degrasse Tyson predicted that the internet will go the way of spam mail by the end of the decade and that people will revert to face to face communication because of the unreliability.
 
Jaydumo20 said:
He hasn't declared yet. Even though : He will be the number one pick. He will make more money in the NBA.


My honest guess is that he will declare soon, but should the hesitancy make us question the relationship this new college paradigm has with the NBA?

I've amended this thread to make my intention more clear. Pressure will put him in the draft but he's already rich, he loves Duke and prob hates what happened in the tourney. A competitive guy like him, I for one would not blame him for going after a natty, inking his Duke legend and be the top pick next year as well.
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If he delays a year that is one year less time before he can sign a Super Max deal. I don't know too many people who would elect for another year in college instead of 65-70 Mil. I know he does well with NIL but he'd be a fool to not head to the NBA. He's going to declare. He just wants to allow his teammates to declare and have their moment in the sun before the spotlight moves to him.
 
Methalius said:
If he delays a year that is one year less time before he can sign a Super Max deal. I don't know too many people who would elect for another year in college instead of 65-70 Mil. I know he does well with NIL but he'd be a fool to not head to the NBA. He's going to declare. He just wants to allow his teammates to declare and have their moment in the sun before the spotlight moves to him.
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I just read that in 15 years the top contracts will be 170 million a year. So Cooper could be giving up that.
 
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HooperScooper said:
In that same search the next section is this. Did I miss the Karaban announcement or am I getting really old? Lol

Here's a more detailed list of players who have declared for the 2025 NBA Draft:
  • Cooper Flagg: Duke (Forward)
  • Kon Knueppel: Duke (Guard)
  • Dylan Harper: Rutgers (Guard)
  • Kasparas Jakucionis: Illinois (Guard)
  • Egor Demin: BYU (Forward)
  • Tre Johnson: Texas (Guard)
  • Liam Mcneeley: UConn (Forward)
  • Nolan Traore: Saint-Quentin (France)
  • Asa Newell: Georgia (Guard)
  • Derik Queen: Maryland (Center)
  • Boogie Fland: Arkansas (Guard)
  • Alex Karaban: UConn (Forward)
  • Collin Murray-Boyles: South Carolina (Forward)
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Nah its AI cant tell you the number of times they have been wrong.
 
Drame said:
I just read that in 15 years the top contracts will be 170 million a year. So Cooper could be giving up that.
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Wow! But again, 15 years is a long time. The way the landscape is changing its hard to fathom predicting anything with any kind of certainty.
 
Methalius said:
If he delays a year that is one year less time before he can sign a Super Max deal. I don't know too many people who would elect for another year in college instead of 65-70 Mil. I know he does well with NIL but he'd be a fool to not head to the NBA. He's going to declare. He just wants to allow his teammates to declare and have their moment in the sun before the spotlight moves to him.
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I do believe that you are correct about the timeline. I heard Man Man is declaring today and coop will declare tmrw.

Fwiw: im sure that simply for quality of life and pure enjoyment flagg as a sophomore will enjoy his life more than a rookie in the NBA. He's bmoc. Clingan really wanted to come back to uconn but people told HIM it wasn't in HIS best interest.
 
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bendm said:
I have not heard a single person comparing him to LeBron James. Anthony Davis and Zion were better prospects. Cooper ceiling is an all star cross between Austin Reeves on offense and and Andrei Kirilenko on defense.
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I get what you’re saying about him not being guaranteed to be #1 next year but he still likely would be—and Peterson and Dybantsa are two of the best high school prospects in years other than Flagg.

Flagg, ceiling and Reaves should not be in the same sentence. Flagg’s ceiling is a hall of fame player.

As much fun as it was to watch Duke lose, his freshman season was insane. Glad we won’t see him (or Knuppel for that matter) in a Duke uniform again.
 
He is going to be a star at the next level. He will need to improve his shooting and probably for the first time in his life he will regularly be guarded by a man his size with similar athletic traits which will take some adjusting too, which will happen, because he is pretty close to a generational basketball talent.

I don’t think he will have the impact as Wemby because Wemby has not and will not for some time face anyone his size with the same athletic traits, but he will be all nba good in his first three seasons.

Still don’t care what he does but he will not stay.

My thoughts on leaving and staying is more geared towards late first round or second round picks. I started some research with the 2019 draft, because every analysis or trend I work on in my real job has a before Covid number and a post Covid number.

Anyway what the search revealed is that there are a number of second round picks who either signed two way contracts worth about $750k a year or less depending how much nba time the player gets. Then the late first round picks saw a lot of 2 yr $2.4M with like $700K guaranteed contracts. Then second contracts that where maybe 2 year $4m to $5m total with even less guaranteed money.

It is going to take more time than I am willing to commit to come up with a better sample size but a player like Dickinson projected late first early second round, decided to come back because he made closer to $1.8M (reported no one probably even the IRS now’s how much it really was) last year staying in college and he did that because it was the best thing financially for the him.

I also did not mention the number of players drafted in the second round in 2019 or 2020 who are no longer in the nba. It is not insignificant. But again that research takes time to complete but just using information from basic research there are about 15-20 players who were selected in the second round in 2019 and 2020 who never signed a second contract.

This data has to be available in one place because if you are a player who fits that criteria of late first round or second pick, you have to look at it to make the best decision.

So if you are a late first round or second round pick, simple napkin math tells me if you can get a college deal in the $1.5M per year area for staying, thats $1.5M reported and guaranteed through the actual university NIL collective , because there is no way to find any side deals going right to the player from the booster, there is a serious financial decision to make. All the NBA lovers on this board for some reason are discounting the guaranteed part of the calculus.
 
If we have to express as a number the odds Cooper Flagg comes back to Duke for a year it would be zero.
 
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Jaydumo20 said:
I'm not not day drinking
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Jaydumo20 said:
I do believe that you are correct about the timeline. I heard Man Man is declaring today and coop will declare tmrw.

Fwiw: im sure that simply for quality of life and pure enjoyment flagg as a sophomore will enjoy his life more than a rookie in the NBA. He's bmoc. Clingan really wanted to come back to uconn but people told HIM it wasn't in HIS best interest.
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People always compare their lives in these situations but it doesnt really work. Like did I have more fun in college than I did working as a financial analyst at a public company? Yes obvi, I am a normal person with a horrible job. However I would much rather play in the NBA than be a college student. NBA players dont have class (or pretend class), they live in million dollar condos in the most fun cities in the country, they are getting DM'ed by instagram models every night in new cities, they are paid millions of dollars, they dont have to live in Storrs CT... While yes it woudl be fun to be BMOC I would still rather be in the NBA
 
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PNolanFan said:
People always compare their lives in these situations but it doesnt really work. Like did I have more fun in college than I did working as a financial analyst at a public company? Yes obvi, I am a normal person with a horrible job. However I would much rather play in the NBA than be a college student. NBA players dont have class (or pretend class), they live in million dollar condos in the most fun cities in the country, they are getting DM'ed by instagram models every night in new cities, they are paid millions of dollars, they dont have to live in Storrs CT... While yes it woudl be fun to be BMOC I would still rather be in the NBA
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Kinda hard to argue with this!!
 
Do you think any other blue blood program would have a 4 page topic on their message boards on whether a UConn player goes pro? Why do you care!
 
Smp7598 said:
Do you think any other blue blood program would have a 4 page topic on their message boards on whether a UConn player goes pro? Why do you care!
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It's ok to care about what the No. 1 pick in the draft is going to do. Not everything is about our inferiority complex
 
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