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I'm glad someone else saw that Roscoe flashback. .
 
UCF is 22-39 from the line tonight.
 
103-100 Final UCF wins
 
Jerry1714 said:
Ha, these cannot be serious posts are they?

We posts 2 brackets yesterday with 5 teams in. We have 3 teams in the top 35 of the RPI.

Saying 2 is all they will get is an absurd notion based on no factual support.
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The only reason we had 5 was because they gave Tulsa the auto-bid, which that won't end up happening.

Now the reason is only going to be 2-3 is because SMU and Cincinnati are in position to get at-large bids, assuming they don't fall apart. The next 3 trying to find a tourney spot would be Temple, Tulsa and UConn. Unfortunately they all play each other twice and will most likely end up beating themselves up. After these 5 there are no "quality" wins, unlike other power conferences who have good resume boosting games all conference.

My prediction for AAC is 2 teams in (SMU and Cincy), unless UConn, Tulsa, Temple can win the automatic bid. Really hoping UConn gets it together by tournament time and its at XL so we have homecourt.
 
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mwc22 said:
The only reason we had 5 was because they gave Tulsa the auto-bid, which that won't end up happening.

Now the reason is only going to be 2-3 is because SMU and Cincinnati are in position to get at-large bids, assuming they don't fall apart. The next 3 trying to find a tourney spot would be Temple, Tulsa and UConn. Unfortunately they all play each other twice and will most likely end up beating themselves up. After these 5 there are no "quality" wins, unlike other power conferences who have good resume boosting games all conference.

My prediction for AAC is 2 teams in (SMU and Cincy), unless UConn, Tulsa, Temple can win the automatic bid. Really hoping UConn gets it together by tournament time and its at XL so we have homecourt.
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I tend to agree. Not sure we are a NCAA team this year, at least not if things keep going the way they are.
 
Can someone please explain to me the logical leap required to think either Cincy or SMU has a distinctly better profile than UConn?

Cincy: Florida is better than NC State in the computers and has been terribly unlucky.
SMU: Congrats on beating a horrid Michigan team on the road...best win is in-conference at Temple.


You guys should try watching any of the other 350 programs in Division I sometime.
 
ericsandiego said:
I tend to agree. Not sure we are a NCAA team this year, at least not if things keep going the way they are.
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Would that be the won 3 of the last 4 part, the fact that two of those wins were against top-30 KenPom teams part or the fact that the loss was a single-digit road loss at the team in first place part? Which of those are the gigantic sirens of doom?
 
zls44 said:
Would that be the won 3 of the last 4 part, the fact that two of those wins were against top-30 KenPom teams part or the fact that the loss was a single-digit road loss at the team in first place part? Which of those are the gigantic sirens of doom?
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Was referring to Tulsa. Isn't that a game we should have won? I guess I should have said if we play down or underestimate opponents. But did not mean to sound doomy and gloomy...
 
ericsandiego said:
Was referring to Tulsa. Isn't that a game we should have won? I guess I should have said if we play down or underestimate opponents. But did not mean to sound doomy and gloomy...
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We were underdogs in the game, so no its not a surprise we lost. Tulsa has 1 loss at home this year and it was to Oklahoma, winning there was never going to be easy. Tulsa was a tournament team last year, and is position themselves to be one now (34 RPI).

Had we won, making it 6 out of our last 7 the same people who know think UConn is an NIT team would be saying we do not get enough respect we should be ranked.

Amazing how fickle people are.
 
Is it an indication of how far we've fallen - or how delusional we have become, if we think playing at Tulsa always will be a tough win?
 
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CTBasketball said:
Is it an indication of how far we've fallen - or how delusional we have become, if we think playing at Tulsa always will be a tough win?
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This year's (and next year's since they are all juniors) Tulsa team is better than the lousy Providence teams that found ways to beat us at their place.
 
CTBasketball said:
Is it an indication of how far we've fallen - or how delusional we have become, if we think playing at Tulsa always will be a tough win?
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Use your damn eyes ... instead of instantly dismissing the opponent.

That Tulsa team is the equal to the Providence Friars or the Miami Hurricanes or many of the Villanova teams that gave us a hard time over the last 15 years. I don't get why some on this board sniff at the name on the Jersey. That team, decently coached by Haith (contrary to what mauconn states), has 8 Juniors that play. 5 were key components on a team that played in the NCAA March Madness last year. Think about that. Those two guards - Harrison & Woodard - are amongst the best we have seen this year. Better than what I saw at WVU; better than the Texas guards; and not far behind the Duke two. Plus they played two more guards that were solid.

I get where we want to go. I don't think the B1G has many better teams than what we just lost to. Maryland? Jeezum. Tulsa just won't get the votes.
 
Pudge said:
Use your damn eyes ... instead of instantly dismissing the opponent.

That Tulsa team is the equal to the Providence Friars or the Miami Hurricanes or many of the Villanova teams that gave us a hard time over the last 15 years. I don't get why some on this board sniff at the name on the Jersey. That team, decently coached by Haith (contrary to what mauconn states), has 8 Juniors that play. 5 were key components on a team that played in the NCAA March Madness last year. Think about that. Those two guards - Harrison & Woodard - are amongst the best we have seen this year. Better than what I saw at WVU; better than the Texas guards; and not far behind the Duke two. Plus they played two more guards that were solid.

I get where we want to go. I don't think the B1G has many better teams than what we just lost to. Maryland? Jeezum. Tulsa just won't get the votes.
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Did you watch the game? Tulsa is ****ing horrible. We were worse. Tuesday night was some of the worst basketball I've ever watched.
 
CTBasketball said:
Did you watch the game? Tulsa is ****ing horrible. We were worse. Tuesday night was some of the worst basketball I've ever watched.
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I admit I thought Tulsa was not nearly as good as I was expecting. That being said, Woodard couldn't miss, and the Shaquille kid is excellent at getting to the basket. UConn went up against two formidable scorers who are as good as any it will see this year. The rest of the Tulsa team seems unable to hit the broadside of a barn.

Still, consider that for all of their losses, Tulsa handled Temple, and Auburn and Creighton.

There's no point in complaining about Tulsa being a lowly American team when clearly it would be a middle of the road team in a P5 conference. They have proven that with their tourney success and their wins this year. You can't dismiss it.
 
I was really unimpressed with Tulsa which makes our loss to them all the more horrifying.
 
If you kept everything the same -- players, ranking, record -- and switched the name from Tulsa to Oklahoma, no one would be surprised we lost on Tuesday.

Which doesn't change that it was a godawful thing to watch.
 
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CTBasketball said:
Is it an indication of how far we've fallen - or how delusional we have become, if we think playing at Tulsa always will be a tough win?
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It has it's challenges, much like playing in Siberia. Long flight, uninteresting location (full disclosure, I've never been there), in an empty stadium... that will make all but the most discipline teams play flat.
 
CL82 said:
It has it's challenges, much like playing in Siberia. Long flight, uninteresting location (full disclosure, I've never been there), in an empty stadium... that will make all but the most discipline teams play flat.
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Full arena.
 
Unimpressed with Tulsa?

CBB starts with good experienced guards. Why do I say that ... should a UConn fan need to ask that question? You can't get past Harrison & Woodard. Rashad Ray is a good third. And then the #15 outplayed our Samuels-Purvis-Calhoun mix. That's a good recipe. We have often played teams with solid guards and had trouble.

What I don't get ... is despite viewing this team ... you still come & post that we are above the American. We ARE NOT dominating this conference. Could we? I think OUR ceiling with Development of Brimah & Facey & the Samuels-Purvis-Calhoun troika should be far higher. But, we are still a Development Team. Yes, we don't have the mix of the talent ready Bigs that we have had in the past. Stone would help greatly. But, I see lots of room for our current roster. Then ... the obvious question.
 
Right now here are the resumes for our top teams in the conference. After looking at these and how teams are playing, I am assuming SMU and Cincy will finish strong, and unfortunately UConn you just can't trust.

Cincinnati Resume: My Prediction - 9-11 seed
11-4
RPI: 37
BPI: 38
KenPom: 35
Key Wins: SDSU, NC State, SMU
Bad Loss: Maybe Nebraska

SMU Resume: My Prediction - 8-10 seed
12-4
RPI: 18
BPI: 36
KenPom: 25
Key Wins: Temple, Michigan, Wyoming
Bad Loss: None

UConn Resume: My Prediction - Currently not in, but win conference tournament could be a 10-12 seed
9-6
RPI: 70
BPI: 49
KenPom: 41
Key Wins: Florida, Dayton, Cincinnati
Bad Losses: Yale

Tulsa Resume: My Prediction - Not in
11-4
RPI: 34
BPI: 98
KenPom: 60
Key Wins: UConn, Auburn, Temple
Bad Losses: Oral Roberts, Division 2 team(doesn't affect RPI)

Temple Resume: My Prediction - Not in
12-6
RPI: 50
BPI: 91
KenPom: 68
Key Wins: Kansas, UConn, La Salle
Bad Losses: Saint Josephs


I think we are looking at 2, maybe 3 teams in the tournament right now. If UConn starts wins out their games, then they can start being considered an at-large bid. Temple is slowing dying off after their Kansas win so I don't expect to see them in the tournament talk much longer. Also Tulsa isn't as good as the resume says, their division 2 loss doesn't show in the rankings they would have a worse RPI if it did and I don't think they will have enough quality wins to be able to make it in.
 
mwc22 said:
Right now here are the resumes for our top teams in the conference. After looking at these and how teams are playing, I am assuming SMU and Cincy will finish strong, and unfortunately UConn you just can't trust.

Cincinnati Resume: My Prediction - 9-11 seed
11-4
RPI: 37
BPI: 38
KenPom: 35
Key Wins: SDSU, NC State, SMU
Bad Loss: Maybe Nebraska

SMU Resume: My Prediction - 8-10 seed
12-4
RPI: 18
BPI: 36
KenPom: 25
Key Wins: Temple, Michigan, Wyoming
Bad Loss: None

UConn Resume: My Prediction - Currently not in, but win conference tournament could be a 10-12 seed
9-6
RPI: 70
BPI: 49
KenPom: 41
Key Wins: Florida, Dayton, Cincinnati
Bad Losses: Yale

Tulsa Resume: My Prediction - Not in
11-4
RPI: 34
BPI: 98
KenPom: 60
Key Wins: UConn, Auburn, Temple
Bad Losses: Oral Roberts, Division 2 team(doesn't affect RPI)

Temple Resume: My Prediction - Not in
12-6
RPI: 50
BPI: 91
KenPom: 68
Key Wins: Kansas, UConn, La Salle
Bad Losses: Saint Josephs


I think we are looking at 2, maybe 3 teams in the tournament right now. If UConn starts wins out their games, then they can start being considered an at-large bid. Temple is slowing dying off after their Kansas win so I don't expect to see them in the tournament talk much longer. Also Tulsa isn't as good as the resume says, their division 2 loss doesn't show in the rankings they would have a worse RPI if it did and I don't think they will have enough quality wins to be able to make it in.
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I think there are some good things here. But if UConn wins out, they are probably a decent seed. Just use http://www.rpiforecast.com/ to get a sense of where their RPI would be. It's a good indicator.

If their RPI stays at 70, they are doomed. But the season is long.
 
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I don't think SMU has played very well at all. So ... I doubt you would lay money on them in. Temple is going to be tough all year. Tulsa, I think, is over the NEW coach transition which explains Oral Roberts loss in the first game & the Southeastern or Southwestern OKie loss.

I guess I am happy we have the tournament in Hartford. But, we'd do better if it was in Maui or MSG.
 
Pudge said:
I don't think SMU has played very well at all. So ... I doubt you would lay money on them in. Temple is going to be tough all year. Tulsa, I think, is over the NEW coach transition which explains Oral Roberts loss in the first game & the Southeastern or Southwestern OKie loss.

I guess I am happy we have the tournament in Hartford. But, we'd do better if it was in Maui or MSG.
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SMU has been playing very well since they got Kennedy back, I think with Kennedy they could of gotten a win against Arkansas or Indiana.
 
tzznandrew said:
I think there are some good things here. But if UConn wins out, they are probably a decent seed. Just use http://www.rpiforecast.com/ to get a sense of where their RPI would be. It's a good indicator.

If their RPI stays at 70, they are doomed. But the season is long.
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I don't think any team from the AAC will receive a seed higher than an 8, unfortunately.
 
Fill me in. Doesn't the NCAA have an automatic bid reserved for the previous year's National Champion in the men's division?
 
upstater said:
I admit I thought Tulsa was not nearly as good as I was expecting. That being said, Woodard couldn't miss, and the Shaquille kid is excellent at getting to the basket. UConn went up against two formidable scorers who are as good as any it will see this year. The rest of the Tulsa team seems unable to hit the broadside of a barn.

Still, consider that for all of their losses, Tulsa handled Temple, and Auburn and Creighton.

There's no point in complaining about Tulsa being a lowly American team when clearly it would be a middle of the road team in a P5 conference. They have proven that with their tourney success and their wins this year. You can't dismiss it.
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I guess so. I was thrown off at the phrase, "Going to Tulsa is always a tough one." Doesn't make much sense to me considering we've won 4 national championships and we're talking about how Tulsa is a difficult opponent, regardless of how adequate they have been doing.

Still I don't think Tulsa is that good. Woodard had a good night, yes. He shot 50% from the floor against a defense that refused to play defense. And I think Shaquille isn't as good as we saw him - our piss poor perimeter defense allowed him to get to the rim, where foul-stricken Brimah was scared to pick up more fouls. I saw Shaquille vs. Wichita State earlier this year and he was neutralized by Ron Baker and Van Vleet so badly he didn't even look for a shot in the second half.
 
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