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Chin Diesel said:
Not that I care directly, but the increase in revenue is somewhat offset by the increase in production costs by having to do all the stuff for the streaming and ESPN+, correct? Not saying it's a dollar for dollar offset but there will be some increased costs, right?
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It's somewhat offset, but I think those costs are vastly overstated on the BY. NFL games cost just north of 100k to produce, so a college game probably is 2/3 of that (local operators, many fewer cameras, etc.) Basketball production is probably much less, on ESPN+ those are often a single camera. So assuming you have 2 football games and 6 basketball games on ESPN+ the school's cost is likely ~3-400k a year. I'm sure the school has some flexibility for non-revenue sports. Now the ironic part ofc is that the worse you are the more games end up on that network so there is certainly incentive to win and grow your brand.
 
Slasher said:
It's somewhat offset, but I think those costs are vastly overstated on the BY. NFL games cost just north of 100k to produce, so a college game probably is 2/3 of that (local operators, many fewer cameras, etc.) Basketball production is probably much less, on ESPN+ those are often a single camera. So assuming you have 2 football games and 6 basketball games on ESPN+ the school's cost is likely ~3-400k a year. I'm sure the school has some flexibility for non-revenue sports. Now the ironic part ofc is that the worse you are the more games end up on that network so there is certainly incentive to win and grow your brand.
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I think the BY estimate came from someone who works for ESPN so it may be more accurate than you think. I’m not sure that your number is correct for NFL games, but assuming that it is keep in mind that there are some economies of scale at work. If you are broadcasting every NFL game, The chances are you can do any one of them more efficiently then as someone who is just doing a few a year. Also keep in mind that the infrastructure necessary to broadcast will need to be put the new schools. that’s a one time cost, but not an insignificant one.

Also keep in mind that our circumstances were different than the teams that are joining the American. We have a ready market for our games. Women’s basketball has a contract with ESPN and even our hapless football program was able to get a deal with CBSSN. for us “relegation“ to ESPN plus meant a dramatic decrease in exposure. That is likely not the case for the schools joining the American.

The American’s geography means that the joining schools our likely going to have a significant increase in their travel budget. Susan Herbst estimated the savings we would have in travel costs by joining the Big East to be $2 million a year. it also takes a considerable toll on coaches and student athletes a cost that’s difficult to quantify, but it is still real.

For Connecticut fans anyway, the slate of teams were playing in the American was utterly unappealing and cost us in attendance and that is is money lost.

Finally, Connecticut had an option to join another conference at fairly close to the same amount of money we would earn in the American contract. The difference between “almost $7 million” and a little over $4 million is negligible net of the items we discussed above. For us, it was the right decision to leave. For CUSA schools it may be the right decision to join, but I suspect the financial boost will be less than they believe; certainly it will be significantly less then “almost $7 million.“
 
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noeynox said:
See i disagree. Temple hoops has cache. Nova would never go for it, so it is moot but Temple is quality eastern name with history.
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Meh.
Last final 4: 1958
Last E8: 2001
Last 2nd round: 2013

Not nothing, but ...
 
noeynox said:
See i disagree. Temple hoops has cache. Nova would never go for it, so it is moot but Temple is quality eastern name with history.
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It’s not a stand alone add, but I’d take them in a expansion scenario driven by Kansas joining. Kansas makes expansion worthwhile. Temple on its own does not.
 
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Think about how close we were to picking up Kansas and a handful of other big 12 teams when Texas was threatening to leave and ESPN gave them the Longhorn network to stabilize that conference. You have to wonder if that stabilizes the old Big East sufficiently that the Catholic 7 do not leave. We would almost certainly be in a decidedly better place.
 
Slasher said:
It's somewhat offset, but I think those costs are vastly overstated on the BY. NFL games cost just north of 100k to produce, so a college game probably is 2/3 of that (local operators, many fewer cameras, etc.) Basketball production is probably much less, on ESPN+ those are often a single camera. So assuming you have 2 football games and 6 basketball games on ESPN+ the school's cost is likely ~3-400k a year. I'm sure the school has some flexibility for non-revenue sports. Now the ironic part ofc is that the worse you are the more games end up on that network so there is certainly incentive to win and grow your brand.
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100k to produce an NFL game?! You are off by an order of magnitude…I’ve seen anywhere from 1-4m per. These are huge events and they are not cheap.
 
Slasher said:
It's somewhat offset, but I think those costs are vastly overstated on the BY. NFL games cost just north of 100k to produce, so a college game probably is 2/3 of that (local operators, many fewer cameras, etc.) Basketball production is probably much less, on ESPN+ those are often a single camera. So assuming you have 2 football games and 6 basketball games on ESPN+ the school's cost is likely ~3-400k a year. I'm sure the school has some flexibility for non-revenue sports. Now the ironic part ofc is that the worse you are the more games end up on that network so there is certainly incentive to win and grow your brand.
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There might be an additional start up
But costs per game will be minimal.
ImHa
Exit 4 said:
Time to call this g5 salad bowl the “Conference American”

Temple and Navy will give this a try- but could see both exiting in 3 to 5 years. Some of this depends on how the big boys decide to approach OOC scheduling and the expanded playoff.

Recruiting against Temple for football just got easier- provided we make the right hire and get back to some on field competence.
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Navy helped picked the teams why would they be upset?
Doubtful WSU , Temple Memphis had much input.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
There might be an additional start up
But costs per game will be minimal.
ImHa

Navy helped picked the teams why would they be upset?
Doubtful WSU , Temple Memphis had much input.
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UConn helped pick Tulane and Tulsa. Why would UConn be upset?

In both cases it is desperation.
 
Zissou said:
UConn helped pick Tulane and Tulsa. Why would UConn be upset?

In both cases it is desperation.
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If I remember correctly it was adding Tulane that caused the C7 to bolt.
So your saying UConn is responsible for the Big East split , Tulane does sound like someone Herbst would approve. She was good academically but clueless when it came to sports .
 
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Zissou, your timeline is off.. Tulane received an all-sports invite added when ECU was invited for football only. This happened before the December meeting where the C7 discussed bailing. (Tulsa invitation & ECU's upgrade to full-sports only happened after the split and after the western-wing plan failed)

Tulsa had never been considered invited prior to the split. In fact Tulane had been the only "RPI-killer" added at that point in basketball (although neither UCF nor SMU were looked at favorably, with Temple, Houston and Memphis being "fine").

C7 was simply tired of being along for the ride with football driven conference instability.
 
ScottVib said:
Zissou, your timeline is off.. Tulane received an all-sports invite added when ECU was invited for football only. This happened before the December meeting where the C7 discussed bailing. (Tulsa invitation & ECU's upgrade to full-sports only happened after the split and after the western-wing plan failed)

Tulsa had never been considered invited prior to the split. In fact Tulane had been the only "RPI-killer" added at that point in basketball (although neither UCF nor SMU were looked at favorably, with Temple, Houston and Memphis being "fine").

C7 was simply tired of being along for the ride with football driven conference instability.
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That’s my recollection also
However I believe the C7 had a Fox deal in their pocket long before Tulane.They’re not that stupid.
The big question is . Was UConn invited to the coup which really was a plan to destroy the conference and take the loot.
If not it was A10 or MAC for us
We still had a viable FSB program at that time so I suspect not.
 
UConn was in place for the selection of both Tulsa and Tulane. I’m not saying they liked being in that position, but they were in it. They were desperation picks.

Likewise, Navy is not like thrilled with the latest invites.

UConn played their hand reasonably. They sought the P5 opportunity, but it didn’t materialize. They gave the American a chance and cashed the old Big East exit fees. When the second American TV deal didn’t deliver, UConn took the better overall Big East / Indy path.
 
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