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That was an ___kicking

UncleSpliff said:
I’m sure someone will draft him but to waste a lottery pick on him after what we just saw tonight is insanity.
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Agreed. Too many other guys with much much higher potential, in my opinion. That said, I really do think there’s a GM out there that will take him in the lottery. We shall see how it turns out for them. My guess is not outstanding.
 
rollskies said:
He can definitely shoot. I think he can be an instant impact guy in the NBA. Not a big impact, but I mean he can go in a game and knock down a few open shots right away which GMs want.

Great college player. I just think he’s a lower ceiling NBA player. So many other guys have a much higher potential but are less polished now. He will go early-ish for sure.
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He will be Steve Novak, but 3 inches shorter.
 
In early December, I watched a back-and-forth heavyweight bout between Baylor & Illinois, until about 8 minutes left when Baylor created separation and then completely overpowered the Illini. This game was like that.
 
Conndog said:
Gonzaga- very bad defense as a team, and individually poor defenders. All night long, Baylor player blew by their man & just threw it to anyone open or back outside for open shot. Didn’t know Baylor guards were so good- wow! Also, Gonzaga couldn’t get rebounds- no real size to their squad. Yes, Baylor had red hot shooting, which was helped by being wide open all night long.
If Gonzaga gets Chet Holmgren next year, they will be real good again.
Baylor was best team this year, and what a game they had tonight!
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What a difference multiple ballhandlers/shooters can be.
 
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This is why UConn needs a shooter in the off season

Man Baylor got after all game long and the Zags had zero answers.
 
uconnbill said:
This is why UConn needs a shooter in the off season

Man Baylor got after all game long and the Zags had zero answers.
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It's wild that they're 40+% from 3 as a team. Every time Gonzaga put a little pressure on them it seemed like they freed somebody up for a 3 and they splashed it.
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
In early December, I watched a back-and-forth heavyweight bout between Baylor & Illinois, until about 8 minutes left when Baylor created separation and then completely overpowered the Illini. This game was like that.
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Yeah, that was a mess of a post.

I had some kind of thoughts about how the last 8 minutes tonight's game were like the Illinois game, and that there'd be no comeback, no matter how much the announcers were rooting for it.

The first 8 minutes were a clinic, no heavyweight bout whatsoever.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
If you want to wager that he's not among the first 30 picks in the NBA draft I'd be happy to make that bet. Otherwise . . .
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I believe you called him a “lottery pick” in a previous thread. I’ll bet u whatever u want he’s not a lottery pick. We can use an escrow site.
 
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UncleSpliff said:
I believe you called him a “lottery pick” in a precious thread. I’ll bet u whatever u want he’s not a lottery pick. We can use an escrow site.
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Was this you or no? Still think Kispert is a first round pick??
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Ha. Tough look from you. Oh well, I gave you a shot.
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Ya “you gave me a shot”’. 2 days ago I said that Gonzaga’s talent level was subpar and they had 1 legit pro prospect. You then told me what a bad take that was and that they had 3 lottery picks and Ayayi was also a top 20 pick as well. Talk about bad take of the weekend.
 
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UCLA sucked the life out of Gonzaga. Their legs were dead. Not nearly the intensity of the UCLA game. Baylor’s better athletes took full advantage. Same game with 3/4 days’ rest, it’s another battle to the wire. But, that’s how the tourney is played. It’s about endurance too.
 
How the hell did this Gonzaga team not lose all season? It’s mind boggling. They got so lucky against UCLA.
 
UConn_Top_Dog said:
How the hell did this Gonzaga team not lose all season? It’s mind boggling. They got so lucky against UCLA.
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They play in the WCC... a perennial
2 bid league... and let’s face it... no matter what the defensive metrics say on kenpom they suck on defense. They routinely give up 85-90+ points to teams and try to outscore everyone. They beat Kansas 102-90 and Iowa 99-89... their 2 best wins. They also beat WVU 87-82... if you’re going to give up 85 points every night out to good teams you better hope your offense is firing on all cylinders. It wasn’t last night, weather that was because they were spent emotionally / physically from the final 4 game or they just ran into a superior team. I tend to think it’s the latter, but some may think it’s a combination of both.
 
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Gonzaga was exposed as being a very mediocre defensive team. One of the best offenses in the country, sure. Defensively? They look like a WCC team.

They gave up 90 points to a Mick Cronin coached team. Even given the extra 5 minutes of OT, I consider that damning evidence.
 
uconngb said:
Baylor had the depth. Zags have 2 1/2 very good players.....in the end that wasn’t enough.
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The phrase Hill used was “they play 8 starters”. Great way to describe their depth: not a lot of drop off between Mayer/Flagler/Thamba.

Speaking of Mayer, I’m expecting him to have a huge year next year taking over full-time 4 minutes with Vital graduating.
 
uconnbill said:
This is why UConn needs a shooter in the off season

Man Baylor got after all game long and the Zags had zero answers.
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Need to pluralize this. We need at least 3 shooters. I remember Bazz, Giffey and even Boatright (with DD) as our last set of shooters.

Athletic slashers are fine, if leading to an and 1, but we weren't making layups, and outside of Bouknight our only 'shooter' was Polley, who was unreliable.

Baylor shooting last night created so much separation (i.e. score) that the hill became a mountain, to high to climb for the Zags. At one point they were trading 3 for 2, when the Zags were trying to come back.
 
BlueDogs said:
UCLA sucked the life out of Gonzaga. Their legs were dead. Not nearly the intensity of the UCLA game. Baylor’s better athletes took full advantage. Same game with 3/4 days’ rest, it’s another battle to the wire. But, that’s how the tourney is played. It’s about endurance too.
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What UCLA did was give Baylor a lot of data on how to beat the Zags.

In 99 when dook was the most formidable team in the land, during the Final Four they played Michigan State. Michigan State played them close enough to have a shot, dook became exposed. UConn studied that film and 'whoola' they discovered the winning formula. That's all Calhoun needed. Most coaches rarely adjust for the final game of the season, but JC tweaked the hell out of our squad. You only have one day or so.

I suspect the UCLA game was similar to Baylor. Sure the Zags may have been a little gassed but I really don't think that was the issue. I think UCLA game study was the major factor.

Baylor knew Zags could be beat, just like UConn did in 99 with dook. And both teams figured out how, mostly due to their last opponent.
 
Reading this thread, I now know that Gonzaga is the worst team in basketball history.
 
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