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Dooley said:
I've got to think that there is TREMENDOUS pressure on Jurich to replace Strong with a home run hire. Like you said (and I agree 100% with), he sold the ACC that they will always be competitive in football with the likes of FSU and Clemson and that his athletic programs aren't cyclical. The problem is that it's fairly late in the coaching carousel and signing day is not too far away. Considering that the majority (maybe all) of UL's recruits committed to Strong and not Louisville Community College, they are probably going to be poached big time unless Jurich can bring in somebody of Strong's ilk. Let's go through the rumored candidates:

James Franklin - this one has got to be a joke. Franklin makes $4M/yr at a SEC school whose academics are excellent. His coaching philosophies thrive on recruiting smart players (similar to Stanford and Northwestern) who are under recruited. With a 96% admission rate and 160-something ranking, it's going to be a VERY tough sell to those types of players to even consider going to LCC. This one is not happening at all.

Pat Narduzzi - it's possible but he just went through a highly publicized coaching interview and was handsomely rewarded for his loyalty to MSU with a hefty raise. That's not to say if Jurich came in at $3M/yr he wouldn't leave, but Narduzzi just cited loyalty to Michigan State and love for that program as a big reason why he withdrew his name from UCONN's list if Diaco turned them down. Money talks though and if Jurich can convince him to leave D'Antonio with a HUGE pay raise, he might bolt. I'd say the odds are about 40/60 not happening.

Chad Morris - I can see this one happening. I personally think Jurich will go offensive with his hire to attempt to stay on par with FSU and Clemson's high flying offenses. What better way to compete with them than hiring one of them? Morris makes $1.2M/yr roughly so he'd likely be looking at a $3M/yr offer to leave. That stock is back up again after walking all over OSU's D (no matter how bad it was). Plus, he has recruiting connections in Louisville's recruiting areas. I'd say 70/30 possible.

Bobby Petrino - Personally, I would LOVE for Louisville to go back to Petrino, throw tons of money at him only to leave for a better job (again) or get in trouble (again). They have one coordinator on a show cause but they're already as high as they can go conference wise so battling the NCAA wouldn't be a concern for them. I'd say this one is 50/50 possible.

Jim Tressel - the show cause is a killer. Louisville gave the ACC a guarantee that they are a football power and that means they have to be in high profile bowl games just about every season. To play in these high profile bowl games without their head coach for the first few seasons would be quite a distraction. Also, he would have to miss the team's first 5 games next season. I haven't seen the ACC schedule for 2014, but that means he will miss some conference games. I thought Tressel made SOME sense for UCONN because of their AAC purgatory sentence but he makes no sense for a P5 conference school. 5/95 not possible.

Tom Herman - like Morris, this one is possible. Offensive guy whose offenses have been prolific everywhere he's gone. Like I said under Morris, I personally think Jurich will go offense with this hire and if he can't get Morris, I can see him going heavy after Herman. 65/35 possible (if Morris is available).

RichRod - I guess you never know with him but I don't think this is happening. He has a good thing at Arizona right now and I *think* he's learned his lesson bolting from a good thing. Jurich would have to come in WAY over the top with a pay raise and I don't think RichRod is worth $4-$5M/yr money. 10/90 not happening.

Derek Mason - for the same reasons as Franklin, it's hard to see Mason leaving Stanford for Louisville Community College. It's a bit more possible than Franklin though since a $3M/yr offer would be a substantial raise for Mason and pay cut for Franklin. He'd have to overcome being a west coast guy moving east and might not have the recruiting connections Strong had in Florida to immediately boost their recruiting. I can't see many west coast kids with (or even without) good grades coming east to LCC. 20/80 not happening.
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Louisville is also competing with Penn State, which is a bigger prize, for any 'top' football coaching candidate. Rumor is that Franklin in particular is in the mix at Happy Valley.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Louisville is also competing with Penn State, which is a bigger prize, for any 'top' football coaching candidate. Rumor is that Franklin in particular is in the mix at Happy Valley.
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Which makes the question Pete Roussel asked on coachingsearch.com utterly ridiculous: "which is a better job, Penn St. or Louisville?"

Like, really?
 
MattMang23 said:
Which makes the question Pete Roussel asked on coachingsearch.com utterly ridiculous: "which is a better job, Penn St. or Louisville?"

Like, really?
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Maybe he means ul will pay more? I don't know
 
MattMang23 said:
Which makes the question Pete Roussel asked on coachingsearch.com utterly ridiculous: "which is a better job, Penn St. or Louisville?"

Like, really?
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The only two advantages that I believe Louisville may have over Penn St are 1) the NCAA sanctions on Penn St (short-term only and Penn St. is not looking for another short-term coach) and 2) lower academic standards. Stadium, facilities, conference, history, brand, local recruiting areas (PA over KY for football), all heavily favor Happy Valley.
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
The only two advantages that I believe Louisville may have over Penn St are 1) the NCAA sanctions on Penn St (short-term only and Penn St. is not looking for another short-term coach) and 2) lower academic standards. Stadium, facilities, conference, history, brand, local recruiting areas (PA over KY for football), all heavily favor Happy Valley.
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You mention advantages, but the second half of your statement would appear to be disadvantages for Louisville. Lower academic standards sure, but stadium facilities conference, history, brand local recruiting all tip the scales in Penn St. favor IMO.
 
Louisville's charter from the very first has been to provide a college education to its city inhabitants first. I doubt you'll find anyone to apologize for that - it's simply a different world. The "state school" in Kentucky is your good buddies at UK so I know you were sincere when you regard state flagship schools as 'special' - just as they do.

Louisville's academic arc has been fairly impressive, the truth is. It was a conscious decision which very much takes place at the athletic level. Generally, Louisville competed with Notre Dame and not UConn in the academic awards in the old Big East. Using academic smack seems odd in light of your inability to participate in the NCAA tourney last season. Frankly, I admired the way Kevin coached your team in that light. Reading here..........not so much.
 
Like some other programs - Duke comes to mind - Louisville's emerging relevance in all sports is an attribute of a smaller fan base but one which is uniquely local and fiercely loyal. As the largest city in America without a competing pro sports franchise - and with a massive corporate base - donations to the program are more than many absolutely top tier programs. They pay a premium for seats in football and the waiting list for seats at the 22,000 capacity Yum Center is a long one. Competing with the 'special' state school for funding for facilities has seen them lose that race so often to UK that they have gone and tapped fans to fund and build hundreds of millions of dollars worth of world class facilities. The new 10,000 seat soccer stadium will be completed in time for the ACC entrance as well as a new Academic Center under the football stadium. It was built by virtue of a $5 million gift from an alumni.
 
BNich said:
You mention advantages, but the second half of your statement would appear to be disadvantages for Louisville. Lower academic standards sure, but stadium facilities conference, history, brand local recruiting all tip the scales in Penn St. favor IMO.
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Yes, Penn St is dealing with NCAA sanction, a negative, and has higher academic standards, which may or may not be considered disadvantages (Stanford has no issue with it while Auburn, Florida, etc. would be crippled). That is where Louisville has an advantage, at least in the short-term. The second sentence lists the B1G advantages for Penn State.

Though, for sheer entertainment purposes, I hope that Louisville hires back Petrino. Imagine the press with him as head football coach and Pitino as head basketball coach? Before going out for dinner, I would disinfect any restaurant table that I eat at within Louisville city limits.
 
Senore said:
Louisville's charter from the very first has been to provide a college education to its city inhabitants first. I doubt you'll find anyone to apologize for that - it's simply a different world.
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So, based on Louisville's mission statement you agree it's a community college, then? Because that is precisely the mission statement of practically every community college in the nation. The only difference is that most other community colleges don't hide behind the veil of fielding major college sports to try to change the perception of their institution. They know what they are and are unapologetic about it. Louisville, fans however, would want us to believe that they are a fine university just because they put a women's volleyball player on the Big East All-Academic team. Whoop-de-ducking-doo.

Please don't insult our collective intelligence by postulating that because of all-conference-academic-award praise heaped onto your remedial students that your dignified university is somehow in the academic company of a notoriously prestigious university like Notre Dame.

An actual cardinal bird itself would make the dean's list at Louisville Community College.
 
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Senore said:
Louisville's charter from the very first has been to provide a college education to its city inhabitants first. I doubt you'll find anyone to apologize for that - it's simply a different world. The "state school" in Kentucky is your good buddies at UK so I know you were sincere when you regard state flagship schools as 'special' - just as they do.

Louisville's academic arc has been fairly impressive, the truth is. It was a conscious decision which very much takes place at the athletic level. Generally, Louisville competed with Notre Dame and not UConn in the academic awards in the old Big East. Using academic smack seems odd in light of your inability to participate in the NCAA tourney last season. Frankly, I admired the way Kevin coached your team in that light. Reading here.....not so much.
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Who really cares what you think of our board! And the fact you are even saying your school is an academic equal with ND is comical! You made a GREAT hire for your AD when you hired Jurich away from Colorado St...he has done what our former AD failed to do..invest in athletics. But there is absolutely NO way you can tell me Louisville is on par academically as a school to UCONN! Oh yeah...your hoops team was down to nothing when Jurich hired Pitino...let's see where it goes when he leaves, because UK sure had a tough time replacing him!
 
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Senore said:
Like some other programs - Duke comes to mind - Louisville's emerging relevance in all sports is an attribute of a smaller fan base but one which is uniquely local and fiercely loyal. As the largest city in America without a competing pro sports franchise - and with a massive corporate base - donations to the program are more than many absolutely top tier programs. They pay a premium for seats in football and the waiting list for seats at the 22,000 capacity Yum Center is a long one. Competing with the 'special' state school for funding for facilities has seen them lose that race so often to UK that they have gone and tapped fans to fund and build hundreds of millions of dollars worth of world class facilities. The new 10,000 seat soccer stadium will be completed in time for the ACC entrance as well as a new Academic Center under the football stadium. It was built by virtue of a $5 million gift from an alumni.
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Which I believe is the underlying point beneath all the friendly ribbing. IF these conferences' real intent is to be an all encompassing group of like minded institutions of higher learning and not simply a collection of FB programs with satellite sports along for the ride, then UL has no place in the ACC or B1G.

What we are saying in this space, beneath the friendly ribbing, as a fanbase very aware of the hypocrisy surrounding CR, is either the entire concept is a farce or specifically the ACC had no interest in academics when it picked SU and UL over UConn.
 
Senore said:
Like some other programs - Duke comes to mind - Louisville's emerging relevance in all sports is an attribute of a smaller fan base but one which is uniquely local and fiercely loyal. As the largest city in America without a competing pro sports franchise - and with a massive corporate base - donations to the program are more than many absolutely top tier programs. They pay a premium for seats in football and the waiting list for seats at the 22,000 capacity Yum Center is a long one. Competing with the 'special' state school for funding for facilities has seen them lose that race so often to UK that they have gone and tapped fans to fund and build hundreds of millions of dollars worth of world class facilities. The new 10,000 seat soccer stadium will be completed in time for the ACC entrance as well as a new Academic Center under the football stadium. It was built by virtue of a $5 million gift from an alumni.
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As a FYI, largest US metro areas without at least 1 pro sports franchise, not including minor leagues: 1) #13 Austin, 2) #19 El Paso, 3) #27 Louisville, 4) #31 Las Vegas, 5) #32 Albuquerque, etc.

I did not include #16 Ft. Worth as most consider Ft. Worth as part of Dallas.
 
The entrance exam to Louisville Community College:

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Senore said:
Like some other programs - Duke comes to mind - Louisville's emerging relevance in all sports is an attribute of a smaller fan base but one which is uniquely local and fiercely loyal. As the largest city in America without a competing pro sports franchise - and with a massive corporate base - donations to the program are more than many absolutely top tier programs. They pay a premium for seats in football and the waiting list for seats at the 22,000 capacity Yum Center is a long one. Competing with the 'special' state school for funding for facilities has seen them lose that race so often to UK that they have gone and tapped fans to fund and build hundreds of millions of dollars worth of world class facilities. The new 10,000 seat soccer stadium will be completed in time for the ACC entrance as well as a new Academic Center under the football stadium. It was built by virtue of a $5 million gift from an alumni.
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This whole post is a farce. Academically, Louisville is light years behind us.
 
MattMang23 said:
The entrance exam to Louisville Community College:

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True story -

I had a guy who did some work for me who was from Louisville (here in San Diego). One time, I met his wife and asked her how she met John. She told me it was in Louisville and that he stood out because he had all his teeth and she thought that was very attractive.

She was serious.
 
Senore said:
Like some other programs - Duke comes to mind - Louisville's emerging relevance in all sports is an attribute of a smaller fan base but one which is uniquely local and fiercely loyal. As the largest city in America without a competing pro sports franchise - and with a massive corporate base - donations to the program are more than many absolutely top tier programs. They pay a premium for seats in football and the waiting list for seats at the 22,000 capacity Yum Center is a long one. Competing with the 'special' state school for funding for facilities has seen them lose that race so often to UK that they have gone and tapped fans to fund and build hundreds of millions of dollars worth of world class facilities. The new 10,000 seat soccer stadium will be completed in time for the ACC entrance as well as a new Academic Center under the football stadium. It was built by virtue of a $5 million gift from an alumni.
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FYI part II - I have made my thoughts on the financial façade that the Yum Center provides Louisville numerous times; but, Louisville does not have 10K soccer stadium and building such a venue sounded like more creative U Louisville accounting as 10K is way too big for NCAA soccer (2013, largest average attendance was just north of 5K by Cal Poly) and on the small side to attract a MLS team (at least 10K). Louisville's current soccer stadium holds 2,500 and the new proposed stadium will hold 5,300. A nice stadium; but, not 10K. UConn has begun funding efforts to build a new soccer stadium, too (current stadium hold 5,100).

http://cardinalathleticfund.com/capital-projects-soccer-stadium.html
 
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sdhusky said:
True story -

I had a guy who did some work for me who was from Louisville (here in San Diego). One time, I met his wife and asked her how she met John. She told me it was in Louisville and that he stood out because he had all his teeth and she thought that was very attractive.

She was serious.
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Sounds like our Mountaineer friends, too. Too bad UL didn't go to the Big 12. UL and WVU deserve each other.
 
http://cardinalathleticfund.com/capital-projects-soccer-stadium.html[/quote]
Mr. Conehead said:
FYI part II - I have made my thoughts on the financial façade that the Yum Center provides Louisville numerous times; but, Louisville does not have 10K soccer stadium and building such a venue sounded like more creative U Louisville accounting as 10K is way too big for NCAA soccer (2013, largest average attendance was just north of 5K by Cal Poly) and on the small side to attract a MLS team (at least 10K). Louisville's current soccer stadium holds 2,500 and the new proposed stadium will hold 5,300. A nice stadium; but, not 10K. UConn has begun funding efforts to build a new soccer stadium, too (current stadium hold 5,100).

http://cardinalathleticfund.com/capital-projects-soccer-stadium.html
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Let's be clear here. You just posted a picture of the soccer stadium under construction then you claim there is no soccer stadium under construction? The arrangement is expandable to 10,000 for tournament play, a number Louisville drew more than once at their old facility during various tournament appearances.

I find almost all responses here subject to your emotional disappointment at Louisville's entry to the ACC. I had underestimated your angst. Have a great year.
 
Louisville Community College or Louisville Junior College? I just want to make sure we're all on the same page going forward. This ain't yer pappy's or granpappy's Lewville y'know? Notre Dame South!
 
MattMang23 said:
Sounds like our Mountaineer friends, too. Too bad UL didn't go to the Big 12. UL and WVU deserve each other.
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Never thought about it in those terms (and really, why would I?), but the WVU/UL are very much the country and city sides of the same coin.
 
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Senore said:
http://cardinalathleticfund.com/capital-projects-soccer-stadium.html
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Let's be clear here. You just posted a picture of the soccer stadium under construction then you claim there is no soccer stadium under construction? The arrangement is expandable to 10,000 for tournament play, a number Louisville drew more than once at their old facility during various tournament appearances.

I find almost all responses here subject to your emotional disappointment at Louisville's entry to the ACC. I had underestimated your angst. Have a great year.[/quote]


Emotional response? You stated that Louisville was building a 10K college soccer stadium. I looked at both Louisville's website and the local paper and learned that Louisville currently has a 2,500 seat stadium and are replacing it with a 5,000 seat stadium. Neither Louisville's website nor the news stories I read in the local paper indicate a 10K stadium. Those are facts. I think noted 3 separate observations. First, a 10K college soccer stadium is likely not a smart investment as average college attendance for the best attended teams is between 5,000 and 6,000. Second, MLS stadium are usually bigger than 10K, so it is unlikely that Louisville is looking to attract a MLS team with this stadium. Third, I am hopeful that UConn can raise funds and build a new stadium for its teams on campus in the 5K to 6K range.
I love soccer and am glad to see other programs growing. I simply checked the facts on your statements, which were incorrect. That's not angst.
 
Keep the hate coming you fat, pasty, 2nd place babies. Your pathetic tears make us stronger. Enjoy your everlasting time in purgatory.
 
BobbyPs Ghost said:
Keep the hate coming you fat, pasty, 2nd place babies. Your pathetic tears make us stronger. Enjoy your everlasting time in purgatory.
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The scum eventually rises to the top of the pond. It took a little longer in this case, but it has arrived. You've had your juvenile say, now back to the basement with you.
 
Samoo said:
The scum eventually rises to the top of the pond. It took a little longer in this case, but it has arrived. You've had your juvenile say, now back to the basement with you.
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Umm, a quick read of the thread would indicate to even the most simple, that the juvenile comments / put downs started on page 1 of this thread. What's the old saying? "if you can't take it, then go duckk yourself".
 
BobbyPs Ghost said:
Umm, a quick read of the thread would indicate to even the most simple, that the juvenile comments / put downs started on page 1 of this thread. What's the old saying? "if you can't take it, then go duckk yourself".
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Enjoy your last couple of posts here.
 
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