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Bottom Line (espn) just said A&M notified the Big 12 their leaving the league, so this obviously means they are indeed headed to the SEC.
 
-Huskiediehard- said:
Bottom Line (espn) just said A&M notified the Big 12 their leaving the league, so this obviously means they are indeed headed to the SEC.
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Strange way for this to happen. Why bother with this independence charade? If A&M did this without assurances from the SEC that they would be added, then they are stupid. If they did this with assurances they would be added, then why bother with this intermediate independence step? They don't protect themselves or the SEC legally.

Whatever, I think BYU is the prohibitive favorite to get the slot at this point, with Houston the only viable #2 choice. No one is leaving a BCS conference to go to the Big 12, and most of the other choices are not worth adding from the Big 12 standpoint.
 
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I'm kind of most stunned by the fact that Arkansas is still in the discussion. Why haven't they denied it yet? You would think that by now they would be out of the talk.
 
The Big XII screwed up big time. Last year they were in a stronger position and teams like TCU & BYU would've jumped at an invitation. Now, time is passing them by.
 
Waylon...just admit that you were completely wrong on this one.
 
maybe Rutgers will join the Big 12. doesn't RutgersAl claim they're Kansas on saturdays and Iowa State from sunday to friday or something like that?
 
mattp said:
maybe Rutgers will join the Big 12. doesn't RutgersAl claim they're Kansas on saturdays and Iowa State from sunday to friday or something like that?
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Pretty sure it was Rowan during the week and Don Bosco on Saturdays...
 
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Skiblets said:
Waylon...just admit that you were completely wrong on this one.
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Giving you credit for being right on this is akin to giving you credit for correctly calling a coin toss or bragging about picking red or black at a roulette table. You have no idea why they did this, and can not address any of my questions from the thread on Scout.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Strange way for this to happen. Why bother with this independence charade? If A&M did this without assurances from the SEC that they would be added, then they are stupid. If they did this with assurances they would be added, then why bother with this intermediate independence step? They don't protect themselves or the SEC legally.

Whatever, I think BYU is the prohibitive favorite to get the slot at this point, with Houston the only viable #2 choice. No one is leaving a BCS conference to go to the Big 12, and most of the other choices are not worth adding from the Big 12 standpoint.
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The mutual release was important for precedent set by Connecticut
 
jpm25 said:
The mutual release was important for precedent set by Connecticut
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I got that part of it, but does this mean the SEC is stopping at 13, or will they go through with this for another team? Nebraska and Colorado didn't do this.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I got that part of it, but does this mean the SEC is stopping at 13, or will they go through with this for another team? Nebraska and Colorado didn't do this.
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Only my opinion, but it is unlikely that they will stop at 13, although the Big 10 had an odd number of members for a couple decades. My guess is that VT, FSU, Oklahoma, WVU are all in the discussion. I think the question is do they go to 14 or 16, and how does the Pac 12, Big 10, Big East and ACC respond. Unfortunate timing of the Miami scandle for them.

This can happen in a week, and month, 6 months - my guess is closer to 6-10 months than immediate.
 
jpm25 said:
Only my opinion, but it is unlikely that they will stop at 13, although the Big 10 had an odd number of members for a couple decades. My guess is that VT, FSU, Oklahoma, WVU are all in the discussion. I think the question is do they go to 14 or 16, and how does the Pac 12, Big 10, Big East and ACC respond. Unfortunate timing of the Miami scandle for them.

This can happen in a week, and month, 6 months - my guess is closer to 6-10 months than immediate.
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Okla doubtful. They wont go anywhere w/o Okl St, and probably Texas. Also SEC reportedly had rejected interest in MO, as they'd like to add someone in the East to balance TAMU.
 
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vowelguy said:
Okla doubtful. They wont go anywhere w/o Okl St, and probably Texas. Also SEC reportedly had rejected interest in MO, as they'd like to add someone in the East to balance TAMU.
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Agree on OK/OSU but everyone said the same thing the last time around on Texas / TAMU. I think the same issues that drove Texas A&M from UT could drive OK from UT, too.
 
SAMCRO said:
This is turning into (or already is) a reality TV show. They need to have cameras following all involved parties AD's and Presidents so this can be truned into a series after the fact. "The Real AD's of the BXII (-2) Conference."
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blame it on the Twitter era of media. Apparently nothing happens fast enough.
 
-Huskiediehard- said:
Bottom Line (espn) just said A&M notified the Big 12 their leaving the league, so this obviously means they are indeed headed to the SEC.
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Wouldn't Texas A&M be pissed if the SEC ended up invitng Texas into the SEC.

If the SEC really wants to expand; then in my opinon, the smart thing for the SEC to do would be to invite Texas and Oklahoma.
 
The buy out is pricey, Any team joining TAMU msut really hate Texas.
 
Larry said:
Wouldn't Texas A&M be pissed if the SEC ended up invitng Texas into the SEC.

If the SEC really wants to expand; then in my opinon, the smart thing for the SEC to do would be to invite Texas and Oklahoma.
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SEC wants in to Texas, but won't support the LHN arrangement. OK would be a good add, but 1) apparently is tied to OK State and 2) SEC would like to balance the add of TAMU with an eastern team, like VT or FSU.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Some analysis of the business side of adding A&M. I was partially right. The SEC can not unilaterally amend the contract, they have to prove value, and it looks like CBS and ESPN are taking the position that the A&M doesn't add that much.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44329182/Texas_A_M_s_Addition_To_SEC_Wouldn_t_Mean_Much_To_TV_Contracts
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There's no way the SEC is staying at 13. They add one more and it gets pretty tough for the networks to argue that there is no value added.
 
Excalibur said:
There's no way the SEC is staying at 13. They add one more and it gets pretty tough for the networks to argue that there is no value added.
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More teams mean that there has to be more incremental benefit. Each team has to be worth about $23 million for the SEC just to break even. That means the SEC would have to get an incremental $46 million per year from two additions. I think what the market is saying right now is the baseline for a BCS program is about $17-18 million per year, with a step up for the more attractive programs. There does not appear to be a multiplier effect of 1+1=3 with these TV deals, and the reverse may be true because long-term rivalries are lost. Maybe it is 1+1=1.5. A&M was worth about $20MM/year to the Big 12, and now the SEC has to fight to get that number added to its TV contract. I suspect some within the SEC are asking "what's the point?"

For the SEC to see just a 5% per team bump in revenue from an addition, each new team has to generate $35 million in incremental revenue, which seems out of the question right now. Why take the risk of an addition if it won't result in even a 5% bump per team?
 
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