Teams that shot >50% from 3 in 1st Round

[auror]

LOL at the rationalization that NMSU had some historic night.
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ETA: My guess is Hurley would be the first to tell you that, too.

Yeah it's a rationalization, but it's still compelling.

In the last 11 tournaments, only one team has shot that well and lost an NCAA tournament game: UNC in the 2016 champ final to Nova (who went 8/14 = 57% from 3 themselves).

Over the last 12 seasons, teams that have taken at least 10 3-pointers and made the same or better 3pt% as NMSU (and opponents didn't also shoot to that threshold) are 80-6.

So they win 93% of the time.

TRIVIA TIME!

UConn is one of those 6 teams that won despite opponent's insane shooting. Can anyone guess which game it was?

 

[tzznandrew]

So because a player known for taking bad shots (and making them) was able to continue to do that (down Connecticut's throat all night long), they didn't dictate the game be played on their terms?

Huh?

He's known for scoring, and he's known for making some shots. Just not efficiently. For the year he shot 44% from the field and 33% from 3.

The team made tough looks. You gotta give it to them. But that doesn't mean it wasn't a bit crazy that they did. UConn still should have won.

 

[auror]

Over the last 12 seasons, teams that have taken at least 10 3-pointers and made the same or better 3pt% as NMSU (and opponents didn't also shoot to that threshold) are 80-6.

So they win 93% of the time.

TRIVIA TIME!

UConn is one of those 6 teams that won despite opponent's insane shooting. Can anyone guess which game it was?

Forgot to mention this 80-6 record is on neutral courts. Should be a hint for the Trivia Time as well.

 

[Tenspro2002]

Yeah it's a rationalization, but it's still compelling.

In the last 11 tournaments, only one team has shot that well and lost an NCAA tournament game: UNC in the 2016 champ final to Nova (who went 8/14 = 57% from 3 themselves).

Over the last 12 seasons, teams that have taken at least 10 3-pointers and made the same or better 3pt% as NMSU (and opponents didn't also shoot to that threshold) are 80-6.

So they win 93% of the time.

TRIVIA TIME!

UConn is one of those 6 teams that won despite opponent's insane shooting. Can anyone guess which game it was?

Was it the Cincy AACT game in 2016?

 

[auror]

Was it the Cincy AACT game in 2016?

No but creepy random fact: Cincy and UConn in AAC tourny games in 2016 and 2017 took and made the same number of 3 pointers 2 years in a row. Both teams shot 10/26 in 2016 and both teams shot 7/19 in 2017.

 

[billybud]

Michigan State was one of the best 3 point shooting teams...average of 37 .4% entereing Duke game...

They hit 50% against Duke yet lost.

Duke shot 57% from the floor vs MSU's 41.5%

 

[Hurleyman216]

Yeah it's a rationalization, but it's still compelling.

In the last 11 tournaments, only one team has shot that well and lost an NCAA tournament game: UNC in the 2016 champ final to Nova (who went 8/14 = 57% from 3 themselves).

Over the last 12 seasons, teams that have taken at least 10 3-pointers and made the same or better 3pt% as NMSU (and opponents didn't also shoot to that threshold) are 80-6.

So they win 93% of the time.

TRIVIA TIME!

UConn is one of those 6 teams that won despite opponent's insane shooting. Can anyone guess which game it was?

Gonzaga in 1999?

 

[OkaForPrez]

I remember Wichita state in Maui ripping the nets against us but not sure if it was 50%

 

[auror]

Gonzaga in 1999?

Too early. Last 12 years only.

I remember Wichita state in Maui ripping the nets against us but not sure if it was 50%

If you're talking about 2011 Maui, they hit 40+% and we won. But you're getting warmer. This is the right season.

 

[OkaForPrez]

Too early. Last 12 years only.

If you're talking about 2011 Maui, they hit 40+% and we won. But you're getting warmer. This is the right season.

It was nov 2010

 

[auror]

It was nov 2010

Yeah sorry I use the 2nd year for the whole season. 2010-2011 season

 

[OkaForPrez]

Yeah sorry I use the 2nd year for the whole season. 2010-2011 season

Aha. I see the answer. Got a mismatch!

 

[auror]

Aha. I see the answer. Got a mismatch!

Ding Ding Ding.

Pitt in the 2011 Big East tournament, the famous Kemba step-back winner over McGhee game, was 8/11 from 3 against us. Ashton Gibbs personally was 6/7 (10/13 overall) for 27 points. He was a damn sniper that whole season (49% from 3 on huge volume). This game barely qualified with them only taking 11 attempts, but it was noteworthy for this being a really underrated subplot of the famous game.

I'm curious how we/JC defended Gibbs down the stretch of that game, similar to someone as hot as Teddy Allen was last week (although Gibbs/Allen went about their personal offenses much differently). Might just have to go back and watch tonight...

 

[Tenspro2002]

Ding Ding Ding.

Pitt in the 2011 Big East tournament, the famous Kemba step-back winner over McGhee game, was 8/11 from 3 against us. Ashton Gibbs personally was 6/7 (10/13 overall) for 27 points. He was a damn sniper that whole season (49% from 3 on huge volume). This game barely qualified with them only taking 11 attempts, but it was noteworthy for this being a really underrated subplot of the famous game.

I'm curious how we/JC defended Gibbs down the stretch of that game, similar to someone as hot as Teddy Allen was last week (although Gibbs/Allen went about their personal offenses much differently). Might just have to go back and watch tonight...

Had we lost that game, you'd have people here incensed at how JC could have let Gibbs go off and cost us a chance at a 5 seed.

 

[businesslawyer]

LOL at the rationalization that NMSU had some historic night. UCONN let NMSU dictate how the game was to be played, and they executed their gameplan. Hurley's got to do better about the game being dictated to him on the other team's terms.

ETA: My guess is Hurley would be the first to tell you that, too.

I don’t disagree with anything you said, but you (purposefully or not) are missing the point that was made. The point is we could have let NMSU dictate the game plan, and despite that 99 times out of 100 they wouldn’t have shot well enough to win.

The fact that we didn’t do what we needed to do and we still would have won on anywhere near a normal night are not mutually exclusive.

 

[businesslawyer]

Had we lost that game, you'd have people here incensed at how JC could have let Gibbs go off and cost us a chance at a 5 seed.

Was there that night. Will never forget the look of utter panic in Hilton Armtstrong’s eyes when he realized, up 3 with Pitt having 2 seconds to go 90 feet, he had let a Pitt player sneak behind him with no one else back there.

 

[giddyup]

There were 7 teams that shot better than 50% on 3-pointers in the first round and first four. All were between 16 and 24 attempts.

All 7 won their games.

Double digit seeds St. Peter's (15), New Mexico St. (12), and Notre Dame (11) all won on the backs of hot shooting.

New Mexico St. shot the best percentage of all 68 teams at 64.7%. They were the 3rd lowest after the Texas schools in season 3pt% coming in..

Research has shown that outside of a few outliers (mostly zone teams like Syracuse), teams have more control over volume of 3-point shots as opposed to accuracy of opposing 3-pointers. (“3-point defense” should not be defined by opponents’ 3P% | The kenpom.com blog, Offense vs. Defense: 3-point percentage | The kenpom.com blog, One last post on 3P% defense | The kenpom.com blog)

Tennessee - Won by 30+ (14/24). Season avg - 36.5%
NMSU - Won as 12 seed (11/17) - 33.8%
St Peter's - Won as 15 seed (9/17) - 35.4%
Texas Tech - Won by 30+ (12/20) - 32.3%
Texas - Won by 8 despite opponent going 23/26 from FT (10/19) - 32.9%
Notre Dame - Won as 11 seed (10/16) - 38.1%
Arizona - Won by 17 points despite 19 turnovers (11/20) - 35.9%

We need serious outside shooting capabilities. It is the great equalizer. We can have the most gifted athletes on paper and it doesn’t mean much if we can’t score from the outside.

 

[JustbrewitMan]

I'll start a separate thread for this article, but its relevant to the discussion here. Interestingly, the player with the hottest hand in their analyses (based on 2013-14, 2014-15 seasons) was our very own Kemba Walker...

The ‘hot hand’ is a real basketball phenomenon – but only some players have the ability to go on these basket-making streaks

A study shows that a select group of NBA players really do go on hot streaks by making more shots in a row than statistics suggest they should.

theconversation.com

 

[UncleSpliff]

Was there that night. Will never forget the look of utter panic in Hilton Armtstrong’s eyes when he realized, up 3 with Pitt having 2 seconds to go 90 feet, he had let a Pitt player sneak behind him with no one else back there.

Hilton Armstrong wasn’t on the 2011 UConn team.