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CL82 said:
Or does it take away their current competitive edge.
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Good question, but name recognition is very important with kids. My prime example is Penny Hardaway. Huge name recognition and got off to an unbelievable start with recruiting. Hasn't won at the level expected and seems on a major downward trend.

As good as they might be, most kids still seek affirmation, believe in the perception that coaches like Fraudapari "get guys in the league" and want the adulation they'll get from certain schools' fan bases. Add the potential income from NIL at those high name recognition schools and it won't I believe, at least in the short term, take away any edge.

Kids UConn is recruiting today still mention Kemba or Shabazz. If Dan Hurley hadn't come along when he did that aura of past success may have been lost forever. So my guess is Scheyer can coast on dUKE's history under K for several years but if he doesn't win at K's level within 3 years and dUKE is an also ran in the tournament, he's in trouble and the NIL money won't be as meaningful.
 
CL82 said:
Or does it take away their current competitive edge.
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I dont think it does as social media valuations are all about followership and I'd imagine the blue blood programs have a leg up therein.
 
Watchdog said:
Good question, but name recognition is very important with kids. My prime example is Penny Hardaway. Huge name recognition and got off to an unbelievable start with recruiting. Hasn't won at the level expected and seems on a major downward trend.

As good as they might be, most kids still seek affirmation, believe in the perception that coaches like Fraudapari "get guys in the league" and want the adulation they'll get from certain schools' fan bases. Add the potential income from NIL at those high name recognition schools and it won't I believe, at least in the short term, take away any edge.

Kids UConn is recruiting today still mention Kemba or Shabazz. If Dan Hurley hadn't come along when he did that aura of past success may have been lost forever. So my guess is Scheyer can coast on dUKE's history under K for several years but if he doesn't win at K's level within 3 years and dUKE is an also ran in the tournament, he's in trouble and the NIL money won't be as meaningful.
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Idk if penny is on a major downward trend. The article from him talking to the magic states he’s in the running for the number 1 and 2 players in the country next cycle.
 
Ajs120102 said:
No matter how well things go some things are just hard to beat. Baylor and Nova will struggle against a duke offer for example like with Keels. Hurley is recruiting at a perfect sweet spot right now. It would be great to land a 5 star but it’s going to take a perfect recruitment to happen.

that being said if we are nervous about competing with duke and Kentucky, things are going well.
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I don’t think hurley is nervous about recruiting against those big programs, I just think if we are going to land one of them they will have to fly under the radar from the one and done factories for a little longer. Him already getting that type of attention as a sophomore I think makes the chances slimmer.
 
Watchdog said:
Good question, but name recognition is very important with kids. My prime example is Penny Hardaway. Huge name recognition and got off to an unbelievable start with recruiting. Hasn't won at the level expected and seems on a major downward trend.

As good as they might be, most kids still seek affirmation, believe in the perception that coaches like Fraudapari "get guys in the league" and want the adulation they'll get from certain schools' fan bases. Add the potential income from NIL at those high name recognition schools and it won't I believe, at least in the short term, take away any edge.

Kids UConn is recruiting today still mention Kemba or Shabazz. If Dan Hurley hadn't come along when he did that aura of past success may have been lost forever. So my guess is Scheyer can coast on dUKE's history under K for several years but if he doesn't win at K's level within 3 years and dUKE is an also ran in the tournament, he's in trouble and the NIL money won't be as meaningful.
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Actually I was making a vague reference that the value of cash under the table decreases when there's an opportunity for making money out in the open.
CTFAN4LIFE said:
I dont think it does as social media valuations are all about followership and I'd imagine the blue blood programs have a leg up therein.
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Maybe. On the woman's side it seems like kids build their following in high school initially.
 
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CL82 said:
Actually I was making a vague reference that the value of cash under the table decreases when there's an opportunity for making money out in the open.

Maybe. On the woman's side it seems like kids build their following in high school initially.
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I wonder if high school athletes will now employ people to promote their social media pages in order to hit the ground running faster as day-1 college athletes that can monetize quickly? I would.
 
CCSUblue said:
Love seeing him show up on Karaban's IG. Always great to see recruits interacting, especially when a recruit becomes a commit and starts recruiting others. Seems the staff is really in on lots of high quality personalities.
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Not expecting it, but would LOVE to grab a early commit here. Great players bring great players. Would be like injecting rocket fuel to start our class next year.
 
MDHuskFan said:
Not expecting it, but would LOVE to grab a early commit here. Great players bring great players. Would be like injecting rocket fuel to start our class next year.
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With zero inside knowledge, I think a rocking house on a visit, would get that done!
 
ju6381 said:
With zero inside knowledge, I think a rocking house on a visit, would get that done!
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For that to happen we would have to solidify a solid home non con game which I think could be useful. With a middle heavy BE this year lots of uncertainty surrounding every team outside of Nova. Say we’re 2nd there’s a strong group of teams from 3-8. Big East probably gets 5-6 bids but outside of UConn and Nova the others are unlikely to contend for top 5/6s seeds in the tourney.

The non-con slate so far is very solid with @ Florida, @ WVU as solid Q1 opportunities and of course the Battle 4 Atlantis which I’m stoked for... this field is CRAZY! VCU, Loyola Chicago, ASU, Auburn, Baylor, Syracuse, and Michigan State. Plenty of chances to prove ourselves and a deep run in that would be fun.

Not sure who we add but the home slate needs someone
 
ucawn said:
For that to happen we would have to solidify a solid home non con game which I think could be useful. With a middle heavy BE this year lots of uncertainty surrounding every team outside of Nova. Say we’re 2nd there’s a strong group of teams from 3-8. Big East probably gets 5-6 bids but outside of UConn and Nova the others are unlikely to contend for top 5/6s seeds in the tourney.

The non-con slate so far is very solid with @ Florida, @ WVU as solid Q1 opportunities and of course the Battle 4 Atlantis which I’m stoked for... this field is CRAZY! VCU, Loyola Chicago, ASU, Auburn, Baylor, Syracuse, and Michigan State. Plenty of chances to prove ourselves and a deep run in that would be fun.

Not sure who we add but the home slate needs someone
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Considering we had no fans at home games this past season, I would think all games this year will have a great atmosphere!
 
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Matrim55 said:
Don't think that's gonna happen but we're in REALLY good shape here. And our '23 class is going to be amazing. :)
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Matrim55 said:
Don't think that's gonna happen but we're in REALLY good shape here. And our '23 class is going to be amazing. :)
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Where do we stand with Wilcher? Obviously its very early, but are we in the mix? I assume he would be a/ the top priority if he has interest in us. Any info would be great. thx
 
Jbirdp5 said:
Idk if penny is on a major downward trend. The article from him talking to the magic states he’s in the running for the number 1 and 2 players in the country next cycle.
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My thought was based on his commitments for 2022 so far (#'s 151, 153 and 157), although maybe they're down in rankings because he's got three transfers coming in plus another Lawson as a hard commit.

Plus, it seems his teams haven't played to the level expected relative to how highly rated his recruits have been in the past.
 
JimCtheGOAT said:
Where do we stand with Wilcher? Obviously its very early, but are we in the mix? I assume he would be a/ the top priority if he has interest in us. Any info would be great. thx
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Wilcher seems like the perfect player to be our first 5 star. A long guard like Bouknight, northern New Jersey school, same schools as Corey Floyd Jr.

Let's hope Dan Hurley can bring him in.
 
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husky429 said:
We aren't getting Wilcher. Bowen is the guy.
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Lol why do you think that?

Out of the 12 commits Hurley has while at UConn (not including Brendan Adams bc he followed him from URI), 10 of them are in the ESPN Top 100 for their class. Only 2 who weren’t were Javonte Brown who’s from Canada and was never in the ranking system, and Richie Springs.

This has all been done with our only success being making the tournament once and losing.

What kind of recruits are we gonna start getting if we make it to the Elite 8? Sweet 16?
 
GoatHouse said:
Lol why do you think that?

Out of the 12 commits Hurley has while at UConn (not including Brendan Adams bc he followed him from URI), 10 of them are in the ESPN Top 100 for their class. Only 2 who weren’t were Javonte Brown who’s from Canada and was never in the ranking system, and Richie Springs.

This has all been done with our only success being making the tournament once and losing.

What kind of recruits are we gonna start getting if we make it to the Elite 8? Sweet 16?
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We aren't getting the #8 player in the class unless we have a HUGE early advantage. I'm not sure we are even recruiting him. We've been getting guys in the 40-80 range mostly--a GREAT place to build a championship team (and the kind of 2-4 year player I prefer).

The next step for us is guys in the 20-40 range. Like Bowen. And we have a huge early advantage to help reel him in if he catapults into the top 10.
 
hurley might not sign another 3* again...three or four 4*s every year with a 5* sprinkled in here and there is the magic recipe.
 
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Wilcher's brother wants him to join him as part of Cornhusker Nation. Nice player but our future pipeline is full of strong PG/SG/CG candidates.

TBB>>>> Wilcher
 
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