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So why did Mahaney start over Diarra earlier this season?
Becuase Hurley thought the team would be better that way originally. He adjusted when it wasn't the case. He plays the long game and most here have shown over that years that they don't understand that.
 
So why did Mahaney start over Diarra earlier this season?
That's a good question and relevant to the discussion of whether Hurley tries to set an example of having a good culture.

Coaching a team is a balancing act in trying to be fair to players with the goal of winning. In Samson's case the coaches assessed that his ability to score outweighed his inability to rebound. They assessed Reed Jr. would be ok with coming off the bench and might have promised Samson he would start this season if he remained with the team. Given that the team has played even or got off to good starts when Samson started (his biggest problem earlier in the season was getting removed from quick fouls), given Liam was able to develop quickly as a good rebounder to augment how Samson was being utilized on defense, there was no need to change. In spite of what many members of this forum would prefer to see.

The coaching staff believe that Mahaney has a similar potential to Tristen so he got the start in that role this season. His struggles were not dissimilar to what Tristen went through two seasons ago. So they kept him in that role for quite a while. They probably had conversations with Hassan as part of their decision and got the impression he was fine with the sixth man role. But Mahaney's defense was such a liability, especially playing alongside Solo's bad defense, and his offense got off to a bad start they started Hassan as a necessity. This allowed Mahaney to break into this team with less pressure. If you noticed in this Georgetown game he was running the point when Hassan got in foul trouble. Not only has his defense continued to progress but he's showing signs he can be a point guard.

Singare is the player who got pushed out of the picture. But he's a sophomore while this will be the last season Samson and Hassan will be putting on the UConn jersey.

I believe our coaching staff goes the extra mile in trying to make as many things possible to keep our program as one of the best, if not the best program in the country, for both the short and long term. We really hit the lottery with them.
 
That's a good question and relevant to the discussion of whether Hurley tries to set an example of having a good culture.

Coaching a team is a balancing act in trying to be fair to players with the goal of winning. In Samson's case the coaches assessed that his ability to score outweighed his inability to rebound. They assessed Reed Jr. would be ok with coming off the bench and might have promised Samson he would start this season if he remained with the team. Given that the team has played even or got off to good starts when Samson started (his biggest problem earlier in the season was getting removed from quick fouls), given Liam was able to develop quickly as a good rebounder to augment how Samson was being utilized on defense, there was no need to change. In spite of what many members of this forum would prefer to see.

The coaching staff believe that Mahaney has a similar potential to Tristen so he got the start in that role this season. His struggles were not dissimilar to what Tristen went through two seasons ago. So they kept him in that role for quite a while. They probably had conversations with Hassan as part of their decision and got the impression he was fine with the sixth man role. But Mahaney's defense was such a liability, especially playing alongside Solo's bad defense, and his offense got off to a bad start they started Hassan as a necessity. This allowed Mahaney to break into this team with less pressure. If you noticed in this Georgetown game he was running the point when Hassan got in foul trouble. Not only has his defense continued to progress but he's showing signs he can be a point guard.

Singare is the player who got pushed out of the picture. But he's a sophomore while this will be the last season Samson and Hassan will be putting on the UConn jersey.

I believe our coaching staff goes the extra mile in trying to make as many things possible to keep our program as one of the best, if not the best program in the country, for both the short and long term. We really hit the lottery with them.

The narrative and optics also look tremendous for future portal prospects and pay huge dividends in the long haul. that is, our coach is putting the money where our mouth is.
 
Maybe the part about 2 more wins is ridiculous, but getting a zone ready seems like a good idea.
A quirk I have is that folks wanting zone remind me of folks that want the back-up QB.
 
It is weird we aren't seeing more of T. Reed's post game in this offense as we saw in with Sanogo but maybe the offense has evolved in the last year to really use any traditional post game except for when our sets aren't working to create good shots for our men. I think as we start getting into the main part of the Big East play Hurlley is going to have utilize Tarris more to create good opportunities. Our shots aren't always going to be falling every game.
 
A quirk I have is that folks wanting zone remind me of folks that want the back-up QB.
Not the same. We have defensive deficiencies that may(or may not if we improve enough) that could stop an NCAA run in its tracks. It's the reverse of having a zone buster player on the bench. Maybe you get a team that is driving it down our throat, a 5 out team that lacks outside shooting. Having a zone defense to throw at them might be an effective response.
 
It is weird we aren't seeing more of T. Reed's post game in this offense as we saw in with Sanogo but maybe the offense has evolved in the last year to really use any traditional post game except for when our sets aren't working to create good shots for our men. I think as we start getting into the main part of the Big East play Hurlley is going to have utilize Tarris more to create good opportunities. Our shots aren't always going to be falling every game.
There is something preventing Hurley from using Harris how many think he can be used. It’s rare we go into him with intention, especially late in a clock when it seems he could be a major advantage. Perhaps that’s because we are so generally efficient on offense, maybe he doesn’t flash in the post well timed. He always seems to have better games when we look for him.

I’ll be curious to how Hurley uses the combo against Kalkbrenner, who could physically eat Samson alive.
 
Not the same. We have defensive deficiencies that may(or may not if we improve enough) that could stop an NCAA run in its tracks. It's the reverse of having a zone buster player on the bench. Maybe you get a team that is driving it down our throat, a 5 out team that lacks outside shooting. Having a zone defense to throw at them might be an effective response.
Having a zone is not and never will be the answer. It works for a handful of possessions max, and beyond that goes against our entire defensive identity. There's a reason why the guys who struggled on defense early in the season have looked significantly better the last few weeks
 
I posted this in the game thread last night but why aren't we getting the ball to Tarris Reed? He's totally unstoppable and an automatic bucket on the block.

This doesn't seem to be a problem of our guys not being able to make an entry pass like we saw years ago at UConn. It seems to be an intent problem, like it's not even a part of the plan to try and dump it into him a bunch. I don't get it. I know our offense is really good but having him feasting down low would further unlock things for Solo, AK, etc. and it's an automatic two points for Tarris.

On a team that has trouble with all our perimeter players getting to the rim outside of Hass and Liam who is now hurt it makes no sense we aren't riding our Hoss. It was really frustrating we had three cracks at winning the game on our final possession and we never got it into Reed.

It's a mystery, honestly. If it was up to me I'd do exactly as you suggest.

Sometimes I think Hurley and the staff think a complicated offense is necessarily a better offense. If they hadn't won two straight chips I'd seriously freak out about it.
 
Having a zone is not and never will be the answer. It works for a handful of possessions max
I think having it ready and using it for a handful of possessions is beneficial. Of course our defensive identity is man. But a quick zone look change causes other coach/team to reconfigure, on fly, new offense they will use to attack it. For years a lot of coaches changed up defenses with mades/misses. Look at Pitino, still one of the best technicians out there, he gives different looks throughout the game,.

No one is saying zone all the time is an answer for us, that's a Boeheim straw man. Just a couple times a game. Or next time an opposing coach goes 5 out offense and focuses on picking on Mahaney or our weak link for drive after drive to the rim, throw a 1-2-2 halfcourt or a 1-3-1 or 2-3 matchup out for a couple of possessions. I'm afraid of our guards getting posted up in tourney. I've already watched what Teddy Allen and Eric Ayala can do in an ISO. It is a philosophy of some old school coaches that zone or junk defenses are pointless. But Danny's won 2 championships in a row, so its honestly pointless to even make this post, but here we are lol.
 
Having a zone is not and never will be the answer. It works for a handful of possessions max, and beyond that goes against our entire defensive identity. There's a reason why the guys who struggled on defense early in the season have looked significantly better the last few weeks
I'll take one handful per half when needed thank you. I don't think anyone is asking Hurley to become Boeheim.

edit didn't see Klaibers response until I posted mine. More or less saying same thing.
 
I'll take one handful per half when needed thank you. I don't think anyone is asking Hurley to become Boeheim.

edit didn't see Klaibers response until I posted mine. More or less saying same thing.
We tried that earlier in the year, and we got absolutely roasted on defense. There's a reason we don't go zone, and it's because it was even worse than the man to man defense
 
With our depth and Ball and Mahaney "incrementally" getting better on D, we should be fine - trend is directionally accurate.

What we need for Reed, Jr. to be effective is switching until the guy guarding him is a foot shorter....of course that needs the opponent to have a shorter/slighter wing who Reed, Jr. can just body past. With Georgetown, we didn't get that so Johnson, who has quicker feet than Reed, Jr. got more minutes and played decently well (as others have said, fouls have come down, rebounds up, etc).

But Kalkbrenner would have a field day with Johnson so we need Reed, Jr. in there.
 
We tried that earlier in the year, and we got absolutely roasted on defense. There's a reason we don't go zone, and it's because it was even worse than the man to man defense
Message received!! No Zones for us.
 
I think having it ready and using it for a handful of possessions is beneficial. Of course our defensive identity is man. But a quick zone look change causes other coach/team to reconfigure, on fly, new offense they will use to attack it. For years a lot of coaches changed up defenses with mades/misses. Look at Pitino, still one of the best technicians out there, he gives different looks throughout the game,.

No one is saying zone all the time is an answer for us, that's a Boeheim straw man. Just a couple times a game. Or next time an opposing coach goes 5 out offense and focuses on picking on Mahaney or our weak link for drive after drive to the rim, throw a 1-2-2 halfcourt or a 1-3-1 or 2-3 matchup out for a couple of possessions. I'm afraid of our guards getting posted up in tourney. I've already watched what Teddy Allen and Eric Ayala can do in an ISO. It is a philosophy of some old school coaches that zone or junk defenses are pointless. But Danny's won 2 championships in a row, so its honestly pointless to even make this post, but here we are lol.
I agree in principle, I'm just not sure how effective a strategy it is. In theory it makes sense to use it as a strategy to try to hide the defensive deficiencies, but it limits the impact of our good defenders. And I'd rather keep using practice time to improve the weaker defenders, that's already been paying dividends with those improvements
 
I agree in principle, I'm just not sure how effective a strategy it is. In theory it makes sense to use it as a strategy to try to hide the defensive deficiencies, but it limits the impact of our good defenders. And I'd rather keep using practice time to improve the weaker defenders, that's already been paying dividends with those improvements
Many here have been begging for different athletes to get playing time, wanting to see how they play(Mad Nowell #1). The latest is Abraham. The zone advocates are the same. They won't be satisfied until it is proven or disproven. Not a hill to die on for me, just more message board fun for Boneyard loonies. I think if given a chance, it would be a weapon. Probably not going to see it, as you have pointed out, it's not in our DNA.
 
I agree in principle, I'm just not sure how effective a strategy it is. In theory it makes sense to use it as a strategy to try to hide the defensive deficiencies, but it limits the impact of our good defenders. And I'd rather keep using practice time to improve the weaker defenders, that's already been paying dividends with those improvements
Thats the best point really. To run anything but a vanilla 2-3 in a game it takes practice time away from your oob plays or new sets or whatever else etc. I coached for awhile & just keeping 3 second plays or pressbreakers fresh throughout yr takes valuable practice time.

I guess I'm unfortunately on the record that I'm not sure this roster construction can improve the "high pressure no help man" to the point we can make a run. Just height and foot speed alone. As opposing coach, id just spread court, and drive/ISO with their better athletes Jay Wright style on our weak spot. I dont think we can stop it unless we start helping & then giving up 3's on the help. Sure hope I'm wrong. A bad year for Clingan to leave as we have been a turnstile on any team that just wants to go 5 out iso. He'd be averaging 7 blocks a game lol
 
I hate to give those two dudes from the Big X pod credit, but they called it. They said that when he was on, he was awesome, but that he would disappear from the game for long stretches. Dude should dominate every single minute he is out there.
 
I hate to give those two dudes from the Big X pod credit, but they called it. They said that when he was on, he was awesome, but that he would disappear from the game for long stretches. Dude should dominate every single minute he is out there.
He's one of the most productive per minute bigs in the conference.
 
He's one of the most productive per minute bigs in the conference.
Yes, but has a history of good half/bad half from his Michigan years.

Assuredly Hurley knows this so until he can go 30+ min of "on productivity" it will be game-plan based between him and Johnson.
 


Two-headed center monsters rule. I love how different their games are and how we can play one more based on the matchups. Reed is a beast on the boards, ranking even higher nationally than I realized.

Wow imagine if he got starter PT. Wow.
 

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