Tarris Reed not being utilized

[StllH8L8ner]

And.....what's the thread?

We’re joining the Big 12 imminently. He heard it from a friend’s friend’s cousin’s Godfather’s barber.

 

[CL82]

Read the book about Hurley’s dad. This was what happened. Even if the new guy was better he never took the place of the incumbent unless the incumbent did something stupid off court or did not take his academics seriously. Hurley had to inherit some of that thinking. He is not just coaching this years team he also has to consider creating a program that adheres to certain pillars.

I've read Miracle at Saint Anthony's. I don't remember that being the case at all.

 

[CL82]

Godfather’s barber?

"Just take a little off the top and perhaps a shave"

 

[RuffRuff]

just like I said in the other thread, his usage of Ross and Samson is because he values "stops" & rotations alot more than made baskets. It's old school coach bball stubbornness. This roster will not ultimately be successful trying to be a lockdown overplay no help man to man team. Too slow at too many positions.

Mahaney went from all -league to borderline unplayable at times bc of our defensive scheme, trying to fit players into what they cant do. It's like having a squad of Johnnie Selvie's and trying to run a 3 pt only offense. It doesnt fit. Who is our lockdown defender? Outside of Hass, who is undersized, I dont think we have a good defender this year. We aren't gonna wear down opponents with our defensive pressure, with Clingan to clear things out. Instead we give up layups to bad big east teams like its our job at times bc of not adapting and overplaying with minus athletes, as we play to our opponents level. Pride goes before the fall.

Ross getting minutes over Stew is him not seeing what is. I am among biggest Samson supporters, but Reed is a major post up option but not being consistently utilized because Dan wants to deny opposing center past the three pt line and do his high hedge.

The portal rationale of AM is perplexing, when you consider he’s mismatched on both ends of the floor. More than anything how quickly they decided on him when there were so many options out there. I’ll stick to the conclusion that they over indexed on processing (which ironically has been slow) and culture fit over size/skill. Taking on a smallish moderately athletic 2G to convert to PG and a new defensive scheme really is pushing it. NIL aside we likely had our pick of the litter after a second NC, 10+ players come to mind quickly as to what would likely have been a better fit.

 

[HailUConn]

If you want to win the games short-term, yes, playing Tarris in front of Samson.
But that's not who Hurley is. He wants to plant the seeds, build the culture and tradition and win the war for years to come.

Hurley is a builder of program, amd in and of itself it involves a helluva more than just playing best talents and skills on the courts. He understands basketball way deeper and better than this. Individual talents don't translate well in the hardwood. He needs to manage chemistry in the locker room, the egos, the coming, going and retaining of talents, the bonding and trust between him and coaching staff and players (potential impacts and optics on recruiting), to name a few. Judging from his relations with coaching staff, he likes to run a tight ship like a family. Seniority is one of things he respects and this is the last year that Samson will ever play for this program. So what's he doing for Samson is not difficult to understand. Another example seeing how he defended Alex after FTgate, it should not come as a surprise at all. The thing is that if you put in your dues and give it time, your turn will come.

 

[uconngb]

I love Hurley as a coach, but continuing to start a guy at Center who averages under 3 rebounds a game is stubbornness bordering on insanity, especially when our other center averages about 2.5 as many rebounds per minute.

His stubbornness is maddening…..we’d have at least 1-2 more wins if he threw in a zone defense here and there

 

[RuffRuff]

His stubbornness is maddening…..we’d have at least 1-2 more wins if he threw in a zone defense here and there

It really is, there is no way it contributes to back to back titles.

 

[jibsey]

just like I said in the other thread, his usage of Ross and Samson is because he values "stops" & rotations alot more than made baskets. It's old school coach bball stubbornness. This roster will not ultimately be successful trying to be a lockdown overplay no help man to man team. Too slow at too many positions.

Mahaney went from all -league to borderline unplayable at times bc of our defensive scheme, trying to fit players into what they cant do. It's like having a squad of Johnnie Selvie's and trying to run a 3 pt only offense. It doesnt fit. Who is our lockdown defender? Outside of Hass, who is undersized, I dont think we have a good defender this year. We aren't gonna wear down opponents with our defensive pressure, with Clingan to clear things out. Instead we give up layups to bad big east teams like its our job at times bc of not adapting and overplaying with minus athletes, as we play to our opponents level. Pride goes before the fall.

Ross getting minutes over Stew is him not seeing what is. I am among biggest Samson supporters, but Reed is a major post up option but not being consistently utilized because Dan wants to deny opposing center past the three pt line and do his high hedge.

Can someone explain to me the theory behind the high hedge when our center is out at the 3 point line guarding their center who is setting screens for offense and possible pick and roll?
When they are out there they are not in good position for a rebound after other players drive or shoot.

 

[RuffRuff]

Can someone explain to me the theory behind the high hedge when our center is out at the 3 point line guarding their center who is setting screens for offense and possible pick and roll?
When they are out there they are not in good position for a rebound after other players drive or shoot.

A "high hedge" defense in basketball refers to a defensive strategy where the defender guarding the screener in a pick-and-roll situation aggressively steps up to meet the ball handler coming off the screen, essentially "hedging" high up the court to disrupt their penetration and force them to retreat, often delaying the offensive play and allowing the original on-ball defender time to recover; it's considered a more aggressive approach to defending a pick-and-roll compared to a standard "show" defense where the defender might only slightly step towards the ball handler

 

[ctchamps]

If you want to win the games short-term, yes, playing Tarris in front of Samson.
But that's not who Hurley is. He wants to plant the seeds, build the culture and tradition and win the war for years to come.

Hurley is a builder of program, amd in and of itself it involves a helluva more than just playing best talents and skills on the courts. He understands basketball way deeper and better than this. Individual talents don't translate well in the hardwood. He needs to manage chemistry in the locker room, the egos, the coming, going and retaining of talents, the bonding and trust between him and coaching staff and players (potential impacts and optics on recruiting), to name a few. Judging from his relations with coaching staff, he likes to run a tight ship like a family. Seniority is one of things he respects and this is the last year that Samson will ever play for this program. So what's he doing for Samson is not difficult to understand. Another example seeing how he defended Alex after FTgate, it should not come as a surprise at all. The thing is that if you put in your dues and give it time, your turn will come.

He did it with retaining KO’s players and developing them.

If you want to get players with ethical and loyalty standards you need to demonstrate it with how you run things. There are negative consequences to following the suggestions we make in this forum.

 

[FreeKlaiber]

If you want to win the games short-term, yes, playing Tarris in front of Samson.
But that's not who Hurley is. He wants to plant the seeds, build the culture and tradition and win the war for years to come.

Hurley is a builder of program, amd in and of itself it involves a helluva more than just playing best talents and skills on the courts. He understands basketball way deeper and better than this. Individual talents don't translate well in the hardwood. He needs to manage chemistry in the locker room, the egos, the coming, going and retaining of talents, the bonding and trust between him and coaching staff and players (potential impacts and optics on recruiting), to name a few. Judging from his relations with coaching staff, he likes to run a tight ship like a family. Seniority is one of things he respects and this is the last year that Samson will ever play for this program. So what's he doing for Samson is not difficult to understand. Another example seeing how he defended Alex after FTgate, it should not come as a surprise at all. The thing is that if you put in your dues and give it time, your turn will come.

I think this is all true. & I have no problem with Samson starting and them splitting time down the middle and according to matchups. Samson brings a lot in his own way.

What I don't understand is why Danny doesnt use Reed more on the low block, as he looks like he can take over a game in spurts (readers with good memories might remember I made very same argument for DC last yr- but we had Cam Tristan etc consistently humming so didnt need as much, til tourney when Clingan got increased post touches).

I'd like to see them even attempting to post up the Kalkenbrenner types, especially without Liam. Make them play D, get in foul trouble perhaps. Kicking it back out leads to open shots in theory. You can always adjust out of it unlike Underwood. We work too hard for our baskets at times unlike layups and FTs that opponents get in our subpar performances.

 

[RuffRuff]

He did it with retaining KO’s players and developing them.

If you want to get players with ethical and loyalty standards you need to demonstrate it with how you run things. There are negative consequences to following the suggestions we make in this forum.

Good take. When you build culture you can’t waiver off values or else it becomes flimsy, and kids will feel that. It’s hard to doubt that, and you have to believe in Hurleys process for the long term, not short term satisfaction.

It’s easy to get frustrated game to game, but sometimes you do have to sit back and realize the healthy energy he’s looking to build in the locker room, and how kids buy in to that and stay positive/engaged, especially with this generation. This is a program and not a single event transaction. He’ll likely have it all pressed down to what offers the best chance to win come March.

Take a look at Notre Dame FB for instance - they have a defined culture. That RB who willed his way to a TD last night was part of that.