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Tarris “Big Hoss” Reed is Returning

Love the gratuitous knock on a system that took us to the absolute pinnacle of the sport.
It took us there with a certain type of player. It seems like we’re bringing in guys to go all in on this euroball style that was not the type of player we won with.

Like we wont recruit a guy who can't shoot even though two of the biggest pieces to those teams were Castle and Jackson.
 
Love the gratuitous knock on a system that took us to the absolute pinnacle of the sport.
You need to re-read my post / I did not knock anyone. The Hurley’s father reference goes back to the press conference when Dan took the job, when his father, from Jersey City, made the reference the team needed more muscle. I did not criticize Luke’s Euro Ball, just that it can only take the team so far, without an inside prescence which we had with Adama and Donovan.
 
It took us there with a certain type of player. It seems like we’re bringing in guys to go all in on this euroball style that was not the type of player we won with.

Like we wont recruit a guy who can't shoot even though two of the biggest pieces to those teams were Castle and Jackson.
Agree, except Castle can shoot.
 
You need to re-read my post / I did not knock anyone. The Hurley’s father reference goes back to the press conference when Dan took the job, when his father, from Jersey City, made the reference the team needed more muscle. I did not criticize Luke’s Euro Ball, just that it can only take the team so far, without an inside prescence which we had with Adama and Donovan.
You criticize the "Euro Ball" approach every chance you get. You can go watch tapes of 90s Knicks games if that makes you happy, but the rest of the world has moved on.
 
It took us there with a certain type of player. It seems like we’re bringing in guys to go all in on this euroball style that was not the type of player we won with.

Like we wont recruit a guy who can't shoot even though two of the biggest pieces to those teams were Castle and Jackson.
We didn’t play Euro ball in ‘23. It was a combo. We fed the best big man the ball and surrounded him with shooters.

You definitely recruit players that have Castle and Jackson’s mindset and skill set. It’s not even a question.
 
We didn’t play Euro ball in ‘23. It was a combo. We fed the best big man the ball and surrounded him with shooters.

You definitely recruit players that have Castle and Jackson’s mindset and skill set. It’s not even a question.
Even in 24. And I agree that we should but the staff and the prevailing thought on this board has strayed away from guys like that and players in general that can't shoot.
 
Even in 24. And I agree that we should but the staff and the prevailing thought on this board has strayed away from guys like that and players in general that can't shoot.
Chief loves a high assist content offense but agree having an inside content is what often frees up shooters. I think that impacted Karaban last season when there wasn’t enought focus on getting Reed the ball either because he wasn’t in the game due to fouls or due to the desire to have Johnson chase guards at halfcourt.
 
Chief loves a high assist content offense but agree having an inside content is what often frees up shooters. I think that impacted Karaban last season when there wasn’t enought focus on getting Reed the ball either because he wasn’t in the game due to fouls or due to the desire to have Johnson chase guards at halfcourt.
Agreed. Inside outside is the best kind of game to play.
 
If you really sit down and count successful vs unsucessful high hedges, it's vastly overestimated here. It's an effective disruptor on defense. We just notice the ones where the big get out of position and is more likely to foul. I've rewatched 3 games simply counting how many times we high hedge vs foul.

The problem is execution--often by the corner helper who should be rotating and communicating. Solo was not good at that in particular.
How do you define an unsuccessful high hedge? To most on here, it’s probably not about proper execution, and more about our big picking up a silly foul away from the hoop because they were slow to move their feet. Personally, I don’t mind the high hedge at all but those sort of fouls drive me crazy.
 
How do you define an unsuccessful high hedge? To most on here, it’s probably not about proper execution, and more about our big picking up a silly foul away from the hoop because they were slow to move their feet. Personally, I don’t mind the high hedge at all but those sort of fouls drive me crazy.

I define that as a foul, or the action resulting in a good shot. So if they get a layup or a 3 (even if it's miss) I'll count it as a bad defensive hedge. If the other team reverses the ball 3x, we reset the defense and they still score, I won't count it as a bad high hedge.

There's some subjectivity to it.
 
Chief loves a high assist content offense but agree having an inside content is what often frees up shooters. I think that impacted Karaban last season when there wasn’t enought focus on getting Reed the ball either because he wasn’t in the game due to fouls or due to the desire to have Johnson chase guards at halfcourt.
Really looking forward to years of rehashing this Johnson/Reed debate.
 

With the shooters Tarris will have around him. Keep thinking what an occasional 4 out -Him in the paint set- is gonna do to opposing defenses. Virtually unstoppable. Change of pace concept based on matchups of course-but still intriguing. BTW- Reibe in the same set will be devastating as well. Gonna be fun.
 
With the shooters Tarris will have around him. Keep thinking what an occasional 4 out -Him in the paint set- is gonna do to opposing defenses. Virtually unstoppable. Change of pace concept based on matchups of course-but still intriguing. BTW- Reibe in the same set will be devastating as well. Gonna be fun.
Reibe will be playing in a 5 out offense similar to what the Celtics do with his skillset. DIfferent type of player than Tarris. I love the versatility between our 2 bigs.
 
At his best this past season, Reed was one of the best bigs in the country. If he just becomes more consistent, he’ll be an absolute monster. If he can expand his game on top of that, we’re talking all American level player.
 
If Tarris is in foul trouble say in the first half and Reibe needs to come out of the game our “small” lineup of Karaban, Solo, Silas, Stew and Mullins doesn’t sound too terrible or even this new 6’8” Koroma in there?
 

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