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DRR25 said:
I credit (unofficially, of course) Tara with 29 more wins for the '95-96 year that she coached the national team. As I said in another post, I don't think she cares about having the most wins.
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I think she is credited for those wins in her totals.
 
DefenseBB said:
OMG, just like the annoying PAC12 announcers, the hubris that Stanford and the network shows by stating “GOAT” is astounding. She CURRENTLY has the most wins so if you want to state “Winningest” Coach of all time fine but under NO CIRCUMSTANCES is she the GOAT.

In the pantheon of WCBB she currently ranks 4th and will soon be 5th behind Geno, Pat, Kim and soon-Dawn.

That is still unbelievable but nowhere near GOAT status.

Thanks for a truly remarkable career and for your huge, contributions to Women’s basketball (College, Olympics and launch of professional). You will be missed.
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Well, the release was put out by StanfordWBB after all.
 
Tara retired on top as the all time leader in wins but let's face it next year or the year after Geno was going to pass her and she knew that.
That being said she was one of the best coaches in wcbb history especially coaching at Stanford and the academic restrictions there..I can't blame her for not wanting to fly all over the country to play games. Obviously the demise of the Pac12 was a big reason but I wonder if Betts was still there and her sister coming in 2 years if she would have stayed longer
 
The timing makes sense, though I'm a bit disappointed that I wont see her roaming the sideline at Cameron Indoor next season. Of the five coaching legends including Summitt, Aueriemna, Mulkey, Staley, she was the only one Ive never seen coach in person.
 
DefenseBB said:
OMG, just like the annoying PAC12 announcers, the hubris that Stanford and the network shows by stating “GOAT” is astounding. She CURRENTLY has the most wins so if you want to state “Winningest” Coach of all time fine but under NO CIRCUMSTANCES is she the GOAT.

In the pantheon of WCBB she currently ranks 4th and will soon be 5th behind Geno, Pat, Kim and soon-Dawn.

That is still unbelievable but nowhere near GOAT status.

Thanks for a truly remarkable career and for your huge, contributions to Women’s basketball (College, Olympics and launch of professional). You will be missed.
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So wait a minute. Tara was referred to as the “GOAT” in a post on X by Stanford WBB? Doesn’t Tara have some level of control and input into posts by Stanford WBB? So is Tara referring to herself as the GOAT? ;)
 
oldude said:
So wait a minute. Tara was referred to as the “GOAT” in a post on X by Stanford WBB? Doesn’t Tara have some level of control and input into posts by Stanford WBB? So is Tara referring to herself as the GOAT? ;)
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Lol, it's puffery, let it go. (For what it's worth, she is the greatest of all time at Stanford.)
 
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Congrats to Tara on her retirement, and outstanding career. Way to go out; on top, no fanfare, and no retirement tour! Classy. That being said, make book there is a whole community really angry Geno is still coaching and will soon break her all time wins record!
 
Great coach, who with time to prepare, could give Geno and his greatest teams fits, with her planning and her teams execution. One of the best tacticians and bench coaches. Goes out on top at a time of her choosing.

I think Stanford had the transition plan in place, and I will not be surprised if they retain both their current players and their current recruits. Stanford recruiting has always been a mixture of Tara and the school - a Stanford degree is impressive whether you enter the working world immediately after graduation of after a 10 year professional career.

The headwind of the ACC move, and the reality of life after Tara may begin to chip away from the attractiveness to recruits in time, but I think it will be a gradual process.
 
topogigio said:
Congrats to Tara on her retirement, and outstanding career. Way to go out; on top, no fanfare, and no retirement tour! Classy. That being said, make book there is a whole community really angry Geno is still coaching and will soon break her all time wins record!
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For what it's worth, I think Geno will go out the same way. One day he'll just make an announcement, hopefully not too soon.
 
darrell said:
Wow!

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OMG, just like the annoying PAC12 announcers, the hubris that Stanford and the network shows by stating “GOAT” is astounding. She CURRENTLY has the most wins so if you want to state “Winningest” Coach of all time fine but under NO CIRCUMSTANCES is she the GOAT.

In the pantheon of WCBB she currently ranks 4th and will soon be 5th behind Geno, Pat, Kim and soon-Dawn.

That is still unbelievable but nowhere near GOAT status.

Thanks for a truly remarkable career and for your huge, contributions to Women’s basketball (College, Olympics and launch of professional). You will be missed
 
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What a horror for the student/athletes at Stanford when they have to fly seven hours each way to East Coast universities for basketball games. I'm guessing that they'll be grouping games together within regions. But if so, say UNC and NC State and Florida together, when in the world will they be able to attend class and take exams? One of Stanford's great draws was its educational quality. If you're going to be away from campus for a week at a time or more during the regular season, what kind of education can these young people possibly receive?

Terrible mistake. Huge burden for the athlets.
 
CL82 said:
For what it's worth, I think Geno will go out the same way. One day he'll just make an announcement, hopefully not too soon.
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I thought that, but, Geno won't stop until the end of a year. He should have been Coach of this year. Wow, getting to the FF, amazing.
 
Fairfield Fan said:
What a horror for the student/athletes at Stanford when they have to fly seven hours each way to East Coast universities for basketball games. I'm guessing that they'll be grouping games together within regions. But if so, say UNC and NC State and Florida together, when in the world will they be able to attend class and take exams? One of Stanford's great draws was its educational quality. If you're going to be away from campus for a week at a time or more during the regular season, what kind of education can these young people possibly receive?

Terrible mistake. Huge burden for the athlets.
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That stinks. Geno flew all over the place with tired kids. It is bad no matter who is doing it, it was more than a mistake --it was damaging to the players. Who could think this right??
 
Fairfield Fan said:
What a horror for the student/athletes at Stanford when they have to fly seven hours each way to East Coast universities for basketball games. I'm guessing that they'll be grouping games together within regions. But if so, say UNC and NC State and Florida together, when in the world will they be able to attend class and take exams? One of Stanford's great draws was its educational quality. If you're going to be away from campus for a week at a time or more during the regular season, what kind of education can these young people possibly receive?

Terrible mistake. Huge burden for the athlets.
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They'll schedule the way they did in the Pac12: fly out Thursday, play a game on Friday, quick trip to another relatively close school, play a Sunday game, back on the plane home in time for Monday classes. If you're playing a 16 game conference schedule, that's 8 road games, so one east coast trip per month in this manner. That's a lot more travel distance wise than before, but it's not the end of the world.
 
cuzinvinny said:
WHAT? I feel bad, really, totally why, she'll be 71 in June, I am sad! This makes me feel old, I am feel like the world is ending in a way because I now feel that time is marching and now I am marching with it. Geno most likely with this news is now thinking WHEN for himself???
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A good guess for Geno would be to remain through the Sarah Strong Era. He will be about 75 when she graduates. Recruiting from noon is going to get iffy.
 
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CTrefugee said:
Geno will have the most wins all-time - probably forever. There is too much parity in the women's game now for anyone to catch him.
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And any coaches that spent a lot of time as assistants before moving up, or playing in the pros before coaching won't have enough years on the job to do it.
 
CTrefugee said:
Geno will have the most wins all-time - probably forever. There is too much parity in the women's game now for anyone to catch him.
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Thanks for conforming my post 20 in this thread. :)
 
TCC Kid said:
That stinks. Geno flew all over the place with tired kids. It is bad no matter who is doing it, it was more than a mistake --it was damaging to the players. Who could think this right??
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It's not about the kids, it's about the money.
 
DEFCONN1 said:
Such a great coach and person. I wondered if this was going to happen after Betts went portal. Congratulations Coach on a wonderful career. You touched he lives of many young women and made them better for it.
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“Went portal” — is that the new term for it?
 
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UcMiami said:
Great coach, who with time to prepare, could give Geno and his greatest teams fits, with her planning and her teams execution. One of the best tacticians and bench coaches. Goes out on top at a time of her choosing.

I think Stanford had the transition plan in place, and I will not be surprised if they retain both their current players and their current recruits. Stanford recruiting has always been a mixture of Tara and the school - a Stanford degree is impressive whether you enter the working world immediately after graduation of after a 10 year professional career.

The headwind of the ACC move, and the reality of life after Tara may begin to chip away from the attractiveness to recruits in time, but I think it will be a gradual process.
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Stewie's last 123 games at Uconn 122-1, the loss at Stanford the second game of the 2014-2015 season.
 
Longtime fan said:
A good guess for Geno would be to remain through the Sarah Strong Era. He will be about 75 when she graduates. Recruiting from noon is going to get iffy.
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If he gets number 12 next year with Paige, and she leaves, he might decide to go out on top.
 
Not a surprise, but definitely shocked and a bit heartbroken. TVD was such a huge advocate for women’s basketball, but especially for West Coast hoops. East Coast bias really is a thing and she did her best to bring up not just Stanford but all of West Coast basketball.

Her legacy is much more than the number of wins. For those who say she isn’t the GOAT are just looking at the numbers - her influence and impact went beyond that. It’s more what happens when no one is looking when you start to understand why she is revered so much by colleagues, fans, players and opponents.

I know UConn fans and TVD got off on the wrong foot (and for good reason, mind you, hah) back in 1995, but I hope in time many saw her for what she really was: someone who was a women’s basketball fan at heart, whose passion for the game was pure and just wanted what was best for the sport and not just her teams. She was someone who went out of her way to impact people, mentor them, teach them.

One of my favorite stories I learned today was back in 2010, after Stanford destroyed South Carolina, Staley asked TVD to give a pep talk to her team. She did it for the students, but she also did it to set an example to coaches on how they should act and respect opposing coaches. Stories like this have started trickling out and it’s fun and sad to read.

Yes, Geno will break the all-time wins record (deservedly so) later this year, but if you really know, understand and appreciate women’s basketball and it’s history, you’ll know TVD’s impact is more than just how many wins or national titles she has won.

Congrats on a fabulous career at Stanford.
 
hoopsfan22 said:
They'll schedule the way they did in the Pac12: fly out Thursday, play a game on Friday, quick trip to another relatively close school, play a Sunday game, back on the plane home in time for Monday classes. If you're playing a 16 game conference schedule, that's 8 road games, so one east coast trip per month in this manner. That's a lot more travel distance wise than before, but it's not the end of the world.
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The ACC plays 18 games. Next season, everyone will play everyone else once and one team, their designated rival, twice. Not sure how it will shake out with Stanford but I imagine they'll alternate years with 10 and 8 home games...although with Cal being so close, maybe it will be split up evenly 9 and 9.

Next year, NC State plays Cal and Stanford over a Thursday/Sunday weekend on the west coast. I think the plan is for the east coast teams designated for road games at Cal and Stanford to travel in pairs, so that while one team is playing Cal on the Thursday, the other can play Stanford and then switch for the Sunday game.

But Cal and Stanford will have to make, at a minimum, three trips to the east coast for conference games.
 
Sakibomb25 said:
Not a surprise, but definitely shocked and a bit heartbroken. TVD was such a huge advocate for women’s basketball, but especially for West Coast hoops. East Coast bias really is a thing and she did her best to bring up not just Stanford but all of West Coast basketball.

Her legacy is much more than the number of wins. For those who say she isn’t the GOAT are just looking at the numbers - her influence and impact went beyond that. It’s more what happens when no one is looking when you start to understand why she is revered so much by colleagues, fans, players and opponents.

I know UConn fans and TVD got off on the wrong foot (and for good reason, mind you, hah) back in 1995, but I hope in time many saw her for what she really was: someone who was a women’s basketball fan at heart, whose passion for the game was pure and just wanted what was best for the sport and not just her teams. She was someone who went out of her way to impact people, mentor them, teach them.

One of my favorite stories I learned today was back in 2010, after Stanford destroyed South Carolina, Staley asked TVD to give a pep talk to her team. She did it for the students, but she also did it to set an example to coaches on how they should act and respect opposing coaches. Stories like this have started trickling out and it’s fun and sad to read.

Yes, Geno will break the all-time wins record (deservedly so) later this year, but if you really know, understand and appreciate women’s basketball and it’s history, you’ll know TVD’s impact is more than just how many wins or national titles she has won.

Congrats on a fabulous career at Stanford.
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I think she was the first to really undertake the modernization of women's basketball by integrating the developments of men's basketball through her interactions with the men's programs early in her career. She was a student of basketball, not just women's basketball and really studied x' and o's from every source of innovation in the game. In that way, Geno was a follower of her more than the other great women's coaches of that time.

I wasn't really aware of the brouhaha around Lobo and the NT at the time, and I think it was a bit overblown. And I think the contrast in personality between her and Geno may have had an impact on the perception of their relationship - but I think there was serious respect going both ways.

She really will be missed in the game, but I have high hopes for her successor - I think she taught the game to her players and coaches and I suspect her assistant will be a worthy replacement as far as coaching - the recruiting success may be be harder to duplicate.
 
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