Tara really rips into her team

[Carnac]

While she is at it, can she turn some wine into water, we are frying out here

I've been watching the news reports of the deadly wild fires in your area. Hopefully the firefighters and other first responders can get those fires contained and controlled before they destroy anymore homes or businesses. Thoughts and prayers go out to those that have lost their homes and animals, and to the hundreds of firefighters battling the fires and the high winds.

 

[MilfordHusky]

If I wanted to be snarky, I'd say that Tara is feeling the pressure of Geno catching up to her win total. But I think she's just frustrated by her young, but talented team. The Cardinal's schedule was very tough considering their youth. I thought that Sherri's comments were more personal and scathing.

 

[JordyG]

You said: "My sense is that both perennial WBB powers are in for long, difficult seasons and Tara & Sherri know it." - When you (Stanford) begin the season with two blowout losses to 2 TOP 5 teams, you know right away what kind of team you have. Especially when those losses are followed up by 2 more losses to top 10 teams.

VanDerveer can rant, rave and stomp her feet all she wants to. This is not their year! The other schools in the Pac-12 have closed the talent gap recently. I seriously doubt that Stanford finishes at the top of the Pac-12, or wins their conference tournament this year. It may get worse before it gets better for the Cardinal. They'll probably make the NCAA tournament on reputation if nothing else, but won't go beyond the 2nd weekend, if that far.

You know Scoop, before the season started I said Stanford should consider themselves lucky if they finished 3rd in the Pac-12.

 

[Ozimoto]

I've been watching the news reports of the deadly wild fires in your area. Hopefully the firefighters and other first responders can get those fires contained and controlled before they destroy anymore homes or businesses. Thoughts and prayers go out to those that have lost their homes and animals, and to the hundreds of firefighters battling the fires and the high winds.

Unfortunately, with the Santa Anna winds and the low humidity present in southern California at the moment, there is very little firefighters can do to stop these fires except get people out of harms's way and get out from in front of the flame fronts. And pray for a change in the weather.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Hmm...seems like Johnson, Sniezek and Romano are all pretty limited offensively. I don't think either Williams or Wilson are ready to take over as starting PG though. Tara seems to juggle starting lineups throughout the course of a season fairly regularly, so some changes wouldn't be surprising at all. Any word on McPhee returning? I was expecting more from the soph class. Carrington has had a couple nice games. Wilson had one offensive explosion but otherwise not much. Fingall seems to be particularly disappointing so far this year.

I had to dig to find this thread. I think the Card had a long layoff. Playing UNLV today. Sniezek and Romano got benched, Kiana Williams and Anna Wilson starting instead (Fr. and Soph; maybe the future is now). No Carrington in the box score, Shannon Coffee also new to the starting lineup. Still no McPhee. Stanford winning easily 58-23 in the 4th Q. UNLV shooting 22% overall and 13% from 3. Ouch!

 

[Plebe]

I had to dig to find this thread. I think the Card had a long layoff. Playing UNLV today. Sniezek and Romano got benched, Kiana Williams and Anna Wilson starting instead (Fr. and Soph; maybe the future is now). No Carrington in the box score, Shannon Coffee also new to the starting lineup. Still no McPhee. Stanford winning easily 58-23 in the 4th Q. UNLV shooting 22% overall and 13% from 3. Ouch!

I'm guessing that Carrington must be injured or otherwise unavailable. I doubt she was benched by coach's decision. Tara appears to have pretty much emptied her bench in this game.

I'm somewhat dreading Stanford's upcoming game vs. Tennessee. Yet another overrated opponent for the orange crazies to get all excited about beating.

 

[nwhoopfan]

I'm guessing that Carrington must be injured or otherwise unavailable. I doubt she was benched by coach's decision. Tara appears to have pretty much emptied her bench in this game.

I'm somewhat dreading Stanford's upcoming game vs. Tennessee. Yet another overrated opponent for the orange crazies to get all excited about beating.

Yes, I'm assuming the same about Carrington. That would be 2 of their 3 leading scorers injured at this point.

Also agree about Tennessee vs. Stanford. Having already lost by 20+ to Ohio St., UConn and Baylor this year, Tennessee beating them wouldn't really mean that much...except to Vol fans.

 

[ochoopsfan]

No mention on the Stanford Board why Carrington was out.

 

[Gate81]

No mention on the Stanford Board why Carrington was out.

Attended Stanford-UNLV game and yes Carrington was out so apparently both she and McPhee injured. Good news: Maya Dodson coming out PARTY. 11 points (noone had more than 23 minutes) and very athletic moves. Sheer joy to watch. Prediction by year-end she and Williams both start. Possibly by next game.

 

[Florida Fan]

Utill recently, VanDerveer has been the "Queen Bee" of the Pac-12. She had the best team, finished with the best record, and won their conference tournament every year. A local sports writer once dubbed it "The Stanford Invitational". Well.....that ship has sailed. She's been dethroned. There's a new sheriff in town. Last year, Stanford finished second to Oregon State in the Pac-12. This year, I look for UCLA and Oregon to jump them in conference standings. Stanford may not make the conference finals this year. The gap in talent that Stanford has enjoyed over other conference programs recently has closed.

Happy to see the Pac-12 reach greater parity at the expense of Tara's team. She, and her squad, at times, have seriously slowed UCONN'S momentum. Not this year.

 

[DefenseBB]

As I was reading this thread, there were some very good observations, I laud Tara for this “baptism by fire” though I doubt she thought they would be thumped by as much as they had. With such a young team she took the anti-Mulkey/Freese approach and refused to schedule the School bake sale (ie cupcakes). Hopefully they find their sea legs and perform well in the PAC12 by launching their new invigorated lineup by beating Tennessee! We know the committee sees through the facade of lame schedules (even if the voting public doesn’t-i.e. AP and USA Coaches poll). If she wins 20 games, she will get in and deservedly so.

 

[LoTrader]

I feel like the headline "VanDerveer livid, calls team out after Baylor loss" is a bit overdone.

Here are the actual quotes from Tara in the article:

• "The first quarter was very disappointing,” said Hall of Famer and Stanford head coach Tara VanDerveer. “We have an extremely young team who is just learning how to play and this early season has been baptism by fire. The better team beat us clearly and we need to learn from this and have a better shot selection.”
• “We had no answer for Kalani Brown; she pretty much had her way in the paint,” said VanDerveer.
• On top of failing to take care of Brown, Cox and Wallace, VanDerveer was not impressed by Kaylee Johnson and Alanna Smith getting in early foul trouble and Johnson fouling out early in the second quarter.
• "Fouling out in 12 minutes is unacceptable,” said VanDerveer. “It really hurts when your two most experienced players get in foul trouble early. We are going to evaluate our starting lineup and look at people and who is going to give us the best chance to do what we need to do.”
• Overall, Vanderveer was really proud of her young players and the way they battled such an experienced, well coached, big and highly-skilled team saying that this was a very big task for them.

Do we seriously think Geno would be any more generous in talking about a player who fouls out in only 12 minutes?

Kaylee Johnson is a bust. I don't think she is going to get a lot of playing time for Stanford going forward.

 

[ochoopsfan]

From a Poster on the Stanford forum--Re: Injuries to the top 2 players on Stanford, Carrington and McPhee.

With regard to Carrington Tara said "She is out for a little bit, she should be back." The reporter suggested it was an elbow. Tara said "ya" and as for the time of return "we're hoping soon." With regard to Britt, "her ankle, we're hoping soon." "We're not rushing anything, we're hoping soon, obviously if they are both healthy that helps things a lot." (Kiana was emphatically nodding at that.) "As soon as they're healthy we'll be ready for them. I don't have a timeline." The longer she talked and the more the reporter badgered her the less convincing the act sounded. Unless of course she really doesn't have any idea when the two will be healthy.

 

[willtalk]

I watched the Oregon St. Presser and Scott Rueck also pointed out the mistakes and area's that his team needs to improve in. A good coach holds his team accountable. If they don't the team does not improve. There are a variety of good coaching styles. I can not understand why some people think that players can not be challenged and held accountable for their efforts. It isn't personal. Turn in a bad paper and it comes back with red ink criticism all over it. But when players are not up to standards on court some fans want them to be coddled and lauded for their efforts.

 

[Plebe]

From a Poster on the Stanford forum--Re: Injuries to the top 2 players on Stanford, Carrington and McPhee.

With regard to Carrington Tara said "She is out for a little bit, she should be back." The reporter suggested it was an elbow. Tara said "ya" and as for the time of return "we're hoping soon." With regard to Britt, "her ankle, we're hoping soon." "We're not rushing anything, we're hoping soon, obviously if they are both healthy that helps things a lot." (Kiana was emphatically nodding at that.) "As soon as they're healthy we'll be ready for them. I don't have a timeline." The longer she talked and the more the reporter badgered her the less convincing the act sounded. Unless of course she really doesn't have any idea when the two will be healthy.

The fact that Tara is so extremely vague about their timetable for return makes me none too optimistic. "We're hoping soon" is just another way of saying nothing.

 

[Boxerpups4me]

Yes, I'm assuming the same about Carrington. That would be 2 of their 3 leading scorers injured at this point.

Also agree about Tennessee vs. Stanford. Having already lost by 20+ to Ohio St., UConn and Baylor this year, Tennessee beating them wouldn't really mean that much...except to Vol fans.

Stanford is a much, much better team at home than they are on away games. I'm not so sure that this is a sure win for Tennessee, and the lady vols haven't beat Stanford at Maples since 2005.

The injuries to Stanford's top scorers might be to much for them to top a Tennessee team playing pretty good ball, but i expect a better game out of them at home then what they have shown against the other ranked games they've played, especially if that one guard they have can continue to light it up behind the arc..

To bad this game isnt being shown on espn, bc it is a very compelling matchup

 

[Plebe]

Stanford is currently playing the Leathernecks of Western Illinois.
Free live stream: Stanford Live Stream

No sign of McPhee or Carrington yet. It appears that neither is in uniform.

WIU is up 14-9 at the first media timeout. Stanford already has 5 turnovers.

 

[ochoopsfan]

This is a poor effort in the first qtr for the Cardinal
WIU up 21-14

 

[Plebe]

Stanford has mounted a comeback to take the lead and is playing better, but more than anything they're just fortunate that WIU has gone cold, still scoreless in 2Q.

Stanford leads 28-21 with 3:00 left in 2Q.

 

[ochoopsfan]

Wow a 19-3 second qtr for Stanford has then up by 9 at the half. 33-24
Horrid shooting for WIU. Didnt make a basket until 3 secs left in 2nd qtr.

 

[Plebe]

There's a weird discrepancy in the score shown on the live stream vs. the official stats: Basketball Live Stats

Live stream says halftime score is 33-24. But the live stats are showing 30-27.

 

[Plebe]

Stanford leads 37-32 at the 3Q media timeout.

WIU is a decent mid-major but this is just not a good showing by Stanford.

 

[Plebe]

The Leathernecks have started hitting some shots again and have made this a very interesting game. Stanford leads 47-45 at end of 3Q.

I must say I'm impressed with WIU as a team, and especially their point guard Emily Clemens. She has 17 points, 4 assists and 4 steals already in this game.

 

[ochoopsfan]

WIU up by 1 pt with 4.43 left

 

[ochoopsfan]

WIU up 61-55 with 1.48 left