Taliek II

[upstater]

To me a "hater" is someone who is so full of anger that he would rather see a player (or a coach, I guess) on the team he roots for fail, just to be proven "right." A small minority of irritating people meet that description. I don't really understand it. Hey, two years ago I said something like "Lamb's gonna be really good but he's not going to really help us this season." That crow tasted delicious.

Then the people I called haters meet your definition. Incapable of enjoying Ollie's successes, they pipe up as soon as he fails.

 

[uconnell]

There were 3 NYC point guards on the cover of S.I. and Taliek was the only one who won a NC.

 

[mauconnfan]

There were 3 NYC point guards on the cover of S.I. and Taliek was the only one who won a NC.

But the other 2 had stories in their issues about them right?? Who were they??

 

[mets1090]

 

[nomar]

But the other 2 had stories in their issues about them right?? Who were they??

Cook (talented, but no thanks) and Barrett (terrific).

 

[mauconnfan]

Cook (talented, but no thanks) and Barrett (terrific).

Wow 3 similar stories when you think about it.........not quite living up to expectations. Barrett was almost thought to be ours at one time right?

 

[upstater]

Wow 3 similar stories when you think about it.........not quite living up to expectations. Barrett was almost thought to be ours at one time right?

I thought Barrett was #3 that year of the NYC trio. I am almost positive UConn went after someone else first, was turned down, then offered Taliek before Barrett.

I think it was Mustafa Shakur, but my memory may be failing me.

I think this was UConn's list:

1. Shakur
2. Taliek
3. Barrett

 

[Gurleyman]

Shakur came later. The top PG in that class was Duhon, but I don't think we lasted very long on his list (Jay Williams, yes - but Duhon I don't think we were in the picture). Marcus Taylor was highly rated too, but a Lansing kid who was all but locked up for Michigan State, even though we might have sent him a letter (we also tried for Kelvin Torbert, and "settled" for Gordon, the next year). The other guy I think we were involved with a little bit was Imari Sawyer, who went to DePaul. No great loss there.

 

[upstater]

Shakur came later. The top PG in that class was Duhon, but I don't think we lasted very long on his list (Jay Williams, yes - but Duhon I don't think we were in the picture). Marcus Taylor was highly rated too, but a Lansing kid who was all but locked up for Michigan State, even though we might have sent him a letter (we also tried for Kelvin Torbert, and "settled" for Gordon, the next year). The other guy I think we were involved with a little bit was Imari Sawyer, who went to DePaul. No great loss there.

If Shakur was in that 2001 class, he was definitely UConn's first pick. In fact, I think they were on Shakur as a Soph. or Junior. I remember the Boneyard discussing Shakur for well over a year before he picked Arizona.

 

[Waquoit]

I tell you what set this off. I called some posters haters (not directly) and Waquoit thought I was talking about him. I pointed out that I wasn't talking about him at all....I even said that in my post, so I fail to see how Waquoit miscontrued it. He shouldn't have, at least not enough to start a new thread.

FWIW, I knew you weren't talking about me. But I don't know why that matters. You called those critical of Ollie "haters" and it reminded me of the Taliek situation way back when. Ollie's almost 40. He's a man, it's OK to be critical of him without his supporters going DEFCON One. I mean I got both barrels for saying he was outcoached by Moore. Was that such a slam? I saw it as a compliment of Moore. But the critic has to give a reason for the criticism, not just say something like he sucks. Then one can refute or support, that's the game on a message board.

 

[upstater]

FWIW, I knew you weren't talking about me. But I don't know why that matters. You called those critical of Ollie "haters" and it reminded me of the Taliek situation way back when. Ollie's almost 40. He's a man, it's OK to be critical of him without his supporters going DEFCON One. I mean I got both barrels for saying he was outcoached by Moore. Was that such a slam? I saw it as a compliment of Moore. But the critic has to give a reason for the criticism, not just say something like he sucks. Then one can refute or support, that's the game on a message board.

Show me my quote. I guarantee you I referenced the people who didn't post at all through the wins and only piped up when UConn lost. I'm sorry, but those are haters in my book.

 

[rw005]

Jesus...Mary...and...Taliek!

 

[Danzz]

What is it with the Boneyard and point guards that can't shoot? Like with Taliek, we have a faction forming with Ollie boosters that feel that their guy can never be criticized. And by criticized, I mean spoken about with anything less than a 100% rave. And like Taliek, my issue isn't with Ollie it's with the those who go overboard, the one's that piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. Pardon my indugence, but for my own self-discipline, I'm stating here that I'm getting off the train. Que sera, sera.

Not sure I get the Taliek reference. He couldn't shoot and I never liked him as a player. Going overboard is what happens on the Boneyard and you have been around long enough to know that.