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JMick said:
If the game was called more evenly we would have won.
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I hate that mindset. Refs weren’t the reason they lost the game. Execution, not keeping composure etc are the reasons why. Xavier had a better game plan, they neutralized what UConn wanted to do. Hurley getting a tech as well under 4:00 min to go is beyond inexcusable.
 
Fatroony5 said:
I hate that mindset. Refs weren’t the reason they lost the game. Execution, not keeping composure etc are the reasons why. Xavier had a better game plan, they neutralized what UConn wanted to do. Hurley getting a tech as well under 4:00 min to go is beyond inexcusable.
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I agree in theory. I don’t like getting into the habit of blaming refs. But they missed some incredibly big calls down the stretch that could’ve easily swung the game in our favor. There was a 1:30 stretch where we got fouled at the rim about 4 straight times down 3 and got 2 ft out of it.
 
tykurez said:
View attachment 73239I think Xavier is mediocre. This was their best win. They had 5 wins in their last 11, two against Butler, two against Creighton and one against DePaul. I’m not even sure how they were still ranked.

We should be winning these games if we want to be serious contenders to win the conference
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That’s what I thought. They were 16-7 (6-6 in BE) with an absolute horrible loss at home vs Depaul last week. They’re nothing special. I don’t know how they were ranked either.
 
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KembaSlice said:
Sloppy play, poor coaching, multiple players taking nights off, getting nothing from: Whaley, Gaffney, Polley, Hawk , lack of shooting.

We didn't lose because of 2 technicals we lost because we're not a smart or particularly talented team. We have tons of heart but that's about it.
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Not a big supporter of Gaffney but tonight was not on him. He showed up and surprised me personally
 
Fatroony5 said:
I hate that mindset. Refs weren’t the reason they lost the game. Execution, not keeping composure etc are the reasons why. Xavier had a better game plan, they neutralized what UConn wanted to do. Hurley getting a tech as well under 4:00 min to go is beyond inexcusable.
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Nah they were really bad today. If the game was called evenly we definitely win. Good teams overcome that but the team also played like crap so we didn't.
 
AntG168 said:
I agree in theory. I don’t like getting into the habit of blaming refs. But they missed some incredibly big calls down the stretch that could’ve easily swung the game in our favor. There was a 1:30 stretch where we got fouled at the rim about 4 straight times down 3 and got 2 ft out of it.
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Refs don’t call a perfect game just like players never play a perfect game. they missed some calls but nothing enough IMO that truly impacted the outcome of the game. Teams have really keyed in on how they want to attack UConn and that’s why they lost. Get Sanogo in foul trouble as well as attacking Cole off the dribble to do the same thing. Thought once they neutralized Sanogo and got both him/Cole sitting for the rest of the half, it was gonna be a tough game for UConn to win.
 
Fatroony5 said:
Refs don’t call a perfect game just like players never play a perfect game. they missed some calls but nothing enough IMO that truly impacted the outcome of the game. Teams have really keyed in on how they want to attack UConn and that’s why they lost. Get Sanogo in foul trouble as well as attacking Cole off the dribble to do the same thing. Thought once they neutralized Sanogo and got both him/Cole sitting for the rest of the half, it was gonna be a tough game for UConn to win.
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We watched 2 different games then. Martin was fouled on the fast break twice , Cole got fouled going to the basket twice as well. If one of those had been called it would’ve been a 1 point game with about 1:40 to play. They then immediately call a foul on Martin where the Xavier kid fumbled the ball out of bounds. That’s where Hurley got the tech. I disagree with him getting it there, but the refs let Xavier get ways with murder at the rim during that 1:30 stretch. It put the game out of reach
 
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JMick said:
Nah they were really bad today. If the game was called evenly we definitely win. Good teams overcome that but the team also played like crap so we didn't.
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No, no they don’t. Refs missed some calls but it’s not why they lost, that’s silly. UConn didn’t play well enough to win, Xavier neutralized what UConn wanted to do.
 
Fatroony5 said:
No, no they don’t. Refs missed some calls but it’s not why they lost, that’s silly. UConn didn’t play well enough to win, Xavier neutralized what UConn wanted to do.
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Both things can be true
 
AntG168 said:
We watched 2 different games then. Martin was fouled on the fast break twice , Cole got fouled going to the basket twice as well. If one of those had been called it would’ve been a 1 point game with about 1:40 to play. They then immediately call a foul on Martin where the Xavier kid fumbled the ball out of bounds. That’s where Hurley got the tech. I disagree with him getting it there, but the refs let Xavier get ways with murder at the rim during that 1:30 stretch. It put the game out of reach
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Sure, fouls could’ve been called, I’m not disagreeing. I’m just saying it goes both ways too. UConn lost their composure, they got two technicals under 4:00 to go. Even beyond that they let Xavier run up double digit leads in the second half. It’s just hard to win games when that happens.
 
Fatroony5 said:
Sure, fouls could’ve been called, I’m not disagreeing. I’m just saying it goes both ways too. UConn lost their composure, they got two technicals under 4:00 to go. Even beyond that they let Xavier run up double digit leads in the second half. It’s just hard to win games when that happens.
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True. I just think where are missed calls we’re impacted the end of the game greatly.
 
AntG168 said:
We watched 2 different games then. Martin was fouled on the fast break twice , Cole got fouled going to the basket twice as well. If one of those had been called it would’ve been a 1 point game with about 1:40 to play. They then immediately call a foul on Martin where the Xavier kid fumbled the ball out of bounds. That’s where Hurley got the tech. I disagree with him getting it there, but the refs let Xavier get ways with murder at the rim during that 1:30 stretch. It put the game out of reach
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Martin did foul there. I don't think Martin was fouled on those drives. He just tries to muscle those up and alot of times it ends up in an ugly shot
 
ArizonaHsky said:
Martin did foul there. I don't think Martin was fouled on those drives. He just tries to muscle those up and alot of times it ends up in an ugly shot
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The foul was after the ball was out of bounds. Martin got hacked on both drives
 
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JMick said:
Nah they were really bad today. If the game was called evenly we definitely win. Good teams overcome that but the team also played like crap so we didn't.
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We lost cuz we allowed them to shoot 50% from the field and we shot 38%. The questionable calls didn’t help but we played poorly. Blaming it on the refs is losers mindset.
 
UConn is 1-9 the last two seasons winning games outright when a Vegas underdog. (With 2019 included the number improves 5-18 )
 
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This wasn't a bad loss at all. Some people think this team is supposed to go undefeated for some strange reason. Every loss is about bad coaching, so damn surreal.
 
To reiterate the original point of the thread...

We just got through the toughest 3 game stretch of the schedule (@Nova, home Marq, @Xavier). We went an expected, but not amazing 1-2.

The next 4 games are resume building opportunities which will be difficult, but all winnable games. These are the more winnable Q1 and high end Q2 games for us, the real meat of the schedule: @SJU, H-Seton Hall, H-Xavier, H-Nova. We will be favored for sure in 3 of the 4 and the one where we may be an underdog is a home game (Villanova). 3-1 in these four gets us to 5-4 record for this nine game gauntlet we're in. The models said most likely outcome of that stretch was between 5 and 6 wins, so we're still on track for the expected results of a team around 20th in the country. We can make up for the Creighton loss by sweeping these 4 to get to 6 wins and overachieve for the stretch.

However, we're only expected to win between 2 and 3 of these games by the models due to variability of being small favorites and the Nova game being a tossup. So stealing the road win in NYC is pretty huge as it'll be very difficult to go 3-0 against those 3 teams, considering they've all beaten us (but all on road before and all these will be home).

Then we finish with 3 extremely winnable games (any less than 2-1 in the last 3 will be a disaster and I think we'll get all 3).

6-1 to finish is the goal. 7-0 the dream (only like a 6% chance). 5-2 the most likely but still okay outcome. 4-3 slightly disappointing. 3-4 or worse a disaster.
 
auror said:
To reiterate the original point of the thread...

We just got through the toughest 3 game stretch of the schedule (@Nova, home Marq, @Xavier). We went an expected, but not amazing 1-2.

The next 4 games are resume building opportunities which will be difficult, but all winnable games. These are the more winnable Q1 and high end Q2 games for us, the real meat of the schedule: @SJU, H-Seton Hall, H-Xavier, H-Nova. We will be favored for sure in 3 of the 4 and the one where we may be an underdog is a home game (Villanova). 3-1 in these four gets us to 5-4 record for this nine game gauntlet we're in. The models said most likely outcome of that stretch was between 5 and 6 wins, so we're still on track for the expected results of a team around 20th in the country. We can make up for the Creighton loss by sweeping these 4 to get to 6 wins and overachieve for the stretch.

However, we're only expected to win between 2 and 3 of these games by the models due to variability of being small favorites and the Nova game being a tossup. So stealing the road win in NYC is pretty huge as it'll be very difficult to go 3-0 against those 3 teams, considering they've all beaten us (but all on road before and all these will be home).

Then we finish with 3 extremely winnable games (any less than 2-1 in the last 3 will be a disaster and I think we'll get all 3).

6-1 to finish is the goal. 7-0 the dream (only like a 6% chance). 5-2 the most likely but still okay outcome. 4-3 slightly disappointing. 3-4 or worse a disaster.
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I don't see 5-2 as likely but certainly possible. @ St John's, @Creighton and S Hall, Xavier, Nova at home are all pretty close to being toss-ups imo. Only will be real favorites in DePaul home game and @ G'Town.

I would take 4-3 since it will mean at least 2 more quality wins but less than 4 wins is a disaster like you say to close the season.
 
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Hi-Low said:
I don't see 5-2 as likely but certainly possible. @ St John's, @Creighton and S Hall, Xavier, Nova at home are all pretty close to being toss-ups imo. Only will be real favorites in DePaul home game and @ G'Town.

I would take 4-3 since it will mean at least 2 more quality wins but less than 4 wins is a disaster like you say to close the season.
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Yeah probability wording. It's "the most likely", but the spread on the outcomes is somewhat even between 4 and 6.
 
I took a deep breath. Didn't help since I still see UConn is 16-7 overall and 7-5 in the Big East. Weren't they expected to finish in the top 2 or 3 of the Big East? They still have another month so we'll see what happens.
 
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