Maybe but there is nothing for me to go off, I'm not just going to assume the worst. The graduate students, we have no idea what they want in a masters program, whether they were admitted into the program at Syracuse, whether Syracuse even has the graduate program they want. And the suspended kids I guess there is no way to win, if the coach doesn't provide discipline and suspend kids for breaking the rules it may make his program worse. So he took action and disciplined them and now all of them are leaving. The suspended kids barely played so to me that is more addition by subtraction. Coach Q has a big incoming class, last thing you want is those incoming freshmen to be surrounded by kids who are breaking team rules that are serious enough that they didn't even travel to NCAA tournament. Not all transfers are bad, some may benefit Cuse. Now the Engstler one probably hurts the most but many of the others are not big losses at all, we are talking end of bench players.