Syracuse and Pitt APPLY for ACC membership

[FrostyNuggets]

Someone in the know....

Please, please tell me Herbst did not leave us without a D-1 Athletic Director the day the music stopped.

 

[LRock34]

Where has it been stated that 10 teams applied? I have seen it say that 10 teams have contacted the ACC and have had discussions. But I have only seen that Pitt and Syracuse have actually applied. Correct me if I am wrong...but I have not seen that 10 teams have APPLIED anywhere.

This is correct.

Hopefully the news will be stagered. Pitt and Cuse announced first. UConn and RU sometime next week along with WVU to the SEC.

 

[NHUConnfan]

OK...my bad. 10 haven't applied. 10 have approached. Who knows, UConn could have very well been on that list. My point remains valid.

 

[tzznandrew]

If its all shaking out, I'd like to see a school like Louisville find a secure home. They've been very good for the league all around. I'd be more concerned for them than USF or Cincy.

 

[uconnbill]

This is what happens when you leave minor league commissioner in Providence who seems to be five steps behind always. The Big East football should have broken away from the damn Seton Hall's and DePaul's of the world. Instead they made a play for Villanova and now watch Pitt and Syracuse bolt for the ACC.

 

[LRock34]

Someone in the know....

Please, please tell me Herbst did not leave us without a D-1 Athletic Director the day the music stopped.

You and I knew that this was possibly going down...do you really think Herbst didn't? Having an AD or not wouldn't make a difference. Ultimately it is the President and a board who make the decision to move or not. I am sure we've been talking to the ACC just like everyone else in the Big East. The question is did they choose us? I would be shocked if they turned UConn and RU down. It just wouldn't make sense. Why would ESPN be willing to lose eyeballs in NJ and New England. Even if the views aren't great now...the potential in New England and NJ/NYC is far to good to pass up. UConn, Cuse, RU and BCU combined is a good thing for ESPN and the ACC.

Maybe I'm just trying to convince myself but it seems to make too much sense.

 

[tzznandrew]

UConn, Cuse, RU and BCU combined is a good thing for ESPN and the ACC.

Maybe I'm just trying to convince myself but it seems to make too much sense.

I'm with you on this. That wraps up all the major programs in NE and media markets of NYC and Boston. They'd have BosWash (except, I guess, Philadelphia), and that's the most logical thing to lock up.

 

[FillTheRent]

Is this too obvious?

ACC NORTH:
Boston College
Syracuse
Connecticut
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech

ACC SOUTH:
Miami
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Clemson
Duke
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Wake Forest

 

[gabect]

FYI, Pitt was a plaintiff on that lawsuit too. I guess the ACC got over it there.

I think the point is less about the lawsuit and more about GDF being worried that we're going to leave them in the dust.

 

[tzznandrew]

Is this too obvious?

ACC NORTH:
Boston College
Syracuse
Connecticut
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech

ACC SOUTH:
Miami
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Clemson
Duke
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Wake Forest

What's sad about that list is how many of those schools were BE. It would be almost a 50-50 split.

 

[LRock34]

Is this too obvious?

ACC NORTH:
Boston College
Syracuse
Connecticut
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech

ACC SOUTH:
Miami
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Clemson
Duke
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Wake Forest

It really is. UConn as a Bball brand (and population) and RU as a heavily populated state and recruiting ground.

I also think that WVU to the SEC makes a ton of sense as a brand and partner/rival for UK in the North.

 

[LRock34]

What's sad about that list is how many of those schools were BE. It would be almost a 50-50 split.

The blame for that would be the bball alliance that was doomed the day football starting driving the bus.

 

[NHUConnfan]

Is this too obvious?

ACC NORTH:
Boston College
Syracuse
Connecticut
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech

ACC SOUTH:
Miami
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Clemson
Duke
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Wake Forest

Make it happen.

 

[Rumrunner]

Not to be debbie downer, but the ACC is unobtainable at this point. UConn had no contact with the ACC. It was pitt, su, wv, ku, kstate, tx, baylor, iowa state, mizzou.

Herbst has not had one realignment meeting about uconn's options. They deferred to marinate. Nothing.

As the uconn hire of JC played such an important part of where uconn is today, the inaction of uconn will be looked upon 25 years from now as the opposite.

Make it happen.

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

Not to be debbie downer, but the ACC is unobtainable at this point. UConn had no contact with the ACC. It was pitt, su, wv, ku, kstate, tx, baylor, iowa state, mizzou.

Herbst has not had one realignment meeting about uconn's options. They deferred to marinate. Nothing.

As the uconn hire of JC played such an important part of where uconn is today, the inaction of uconn will be looked upon 25 years from now as the opposite.

Do you know that as fact, or are you just making that up? How do you have any idea if Herbst has had any discussions or meeting with other conferences?

 

[CL82]

Not to be debbie downer, but the ACC is unobtainable at this point. UConn had no contact with the ACC. It was pitt, su, wv, ku, kstate, tx, baylor, iowa state, mizzou.

Herbst has not had one realignment meeting about uconn's options. They deferred to marinate. Nothing.

As the uconn hire of JC played such an important part of where uconn is today, the inaction of uconn will be looked upon 25 years from now as the opposite.

Source?

 

[Excalibur]

Don't bother. He doesn't have one.

 

[FluxTZ]

Is this too obvious?

ACC NORTH:
Boston College
Syracuse
Connecticut
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech

ACC SOUTH:
Miami
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Clemson
Duke
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Wake Forest

This needs to happen. Texas, please go as far away from the ACC as possible.

 

[tzznandrew]

This needs to happen. Texas, please go as far away from the ACC as possible.

I don't see what Texas would get from being the in ACC for non-football. The travel would be insane for their programs. The closest school would be GTech?

 

[teresias216]

I really hope UConn gets into the ACC, but I honestly see no reason why the ACC would take UConn over other potential options like Cincinnati, USF, Rutgers, etc. The ACC does not need UConn for TV markets thanks to now having both BC and Syracuse essentially grabbing the NY and Boston markets. If they wanted to shore up NYC, Rutgers is the more attractive option there. In the long term, UConn is simply not that attractive. Calhoun is around for another 5 years tops, and then who is to say the program stays competitive after that? Academically, it has always been a decent state school, but with nowhere near the reputation of the schools in the ACC or Big 10 as it stands. Even Rutgers is in the AAU. We may in fact be witnessing the last 2-3 years of UConn sports relevancy for the foreseeable future.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I really hope UConn gets into the ACC, but I honestly see no reason why the ACC would take UConn over other potential options like Cincinnati, USF, Rutgers, etc. The ACC does not need UConn for TV markets thanks to now having both BC and Syracuse essentially grabbing the NY and Boston markets. If they wanted to shore up NYC, Rutgers is the more attractive option there. In the long term, UConn is simply not that attractive. Calhoun is around for another 5 years tops, and then who is to say the program stays competitive after that? Academically, it has always been a decent state school, but with nowhere near the reputation of the schools in the ACC or Big 10 as it stands. Even Rutgers is in the AAU. We may in fact be witnessing the last 2-3 years of UConn sports relevancy for the foreseeable future.

That was a troll-tastic post.

 

[junglehusky]

I really hope UConn gets into the ACC, but I honestly see no reason why the ACC would take UConn over other potential options like Cincinnati, USF, Rutgers, etc. The ACC does not need UConn for TV markets thanks to now having both BC and Syracuse essentially grabbing the NY and Boston markets. If they wanted to shore up NYC, Rutgers is the more attractive option there. In the long term, UConn is simply not that attractive. Calhoun is around for another 5 years tops, and then who is to say the program stays competitive after that? Academically, it has always been a decent state school, but with nowhere near the reputation of the schools in the ACC or Big 10 as it stands. Even Rutgers is in the AAU. We may in fact be witnessing the last 2-3 years of UConn sports relevancy for the foreseeable future.

Thanks, troll. Have a nice day.

 

[teresias216]

Its a legitimate outcome that UConn fans should be concerned about. The sooner the administration breaks radio silence, the sooner I will stop worrying that UConn got caught with its pants down during what could be the largest shakeup in college sports in a long time.

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

I really hope UConn gets into the ACC, but I honestly see no reason why the ACC would take UConn over other potential options like Cincinnati, USF, Rutgers, etc. The ACC does not need UConn for TV markets thanks to now having both BC and Syracuse essentially grabbing the NY and Boston markets. If they wanted to shore up NYC, Rutgers is the more attractive option there. In the long term, UConn is simply not that attractive. Calhoun is around for another 5 years tops, and then who is to say the program stays competitive after that? Academically, it has always been a decent state school, but with nowhere near the reputation of the schools in the ACC or Big 10 as it stands. Even Rutgers is in the AAU. We may in fact be witnessing the last 2-3 years of UConn sports relevancy for the foreseeable future.

Wow..and I thought I was a negative person!

It isn't quite as bad as you have made it out to be. We are not in a great position right now...but it is no where near as dire as you make it out to be.

 

[FillTheRent]

Academically, it has always been a decent state school, but with nowhere near the reputation of the schools in the ACC or Big 10 as it stands.

I'm going to have to disagree here. You mean to tell me UCONN isn't in the same league academically as schools like: Purdue, Clemson, Minnesota, Michigan State, Iowa, Virginia Tech, Indiana, Florida State, NC State, and Nebraska? UCONN is on par or better than all those schools.

 

[teresias216]

I am a UConn alumnus, and fully believe UConn has solid academics. However, we are not a member of the AAU, and that is a very big deal to the Big 10 (Every member but Nebraska is). Whether or not our academics stand up compared to member schools matter less than comparing where UConn stands to schools like Rutgers, Missouri (unfavorably), Cincinnati, USF, and Louisville (favorably).

 

[FillTheRent]

Whether or not our academics stand up compared to member schools matter less than comparing where UConn stands to schools like Rutgers, Missouri (unfavorably), Cincinnati, USF, and Louisville (favorably).

I think UCONN's academics stand up well to the other schools mentioned. In the latest US News Rankings UCONN was ranked #58, Pitt #58, Syracuse #62, Rutgers #68, and Missouri #90. Cincy, USF, and Louisville weren't even in the top 100 National Universities.

 

[Rumrunner]

Well as an alumnus, charitably you're an idiot.

AUConn has half the enrollment of the big 10 schools, except for northwestern. Aside from having higher selectivity in admissions, including higher sat scores, top 10% of student'ss class, better retention and graduation rates, and notwithstanding uconn is a top 20 public school, #58 nationally, while mizzou is ranked in the 90's, your troll post is spot on... The same comparison can be made against syracuse. Uconn is better than su and ru.

Oh, about that vaunted aau, how's nebraska doing? Oh wait, that academic power house known as oregon is a member but notre dame isn't?

uconn

I am a UConn alumnus, and fully believe UConn has solid academics. However, we are not a member of the AAU, and that is a very big deal to the Big 10 (Every member but Nebraska is). Whether or not our academics stand up compared to member schools matter less than comparing where UConn stands to schools like Rutgers, Missouri (unfavorably), Cincinnati, USF, and Louisville (favorably).

 

[dtrumpet]

safe to say that if SU and Pitt bolt, the big east is done. the question is where uconn ends up. the earlier posted alignment makes a lot of sense, if the ACC will take uconn.

 

[teresias216]

Well as an alumnus, charitably you're an idiot.

AUConn has half the enrollment of the big 10 schools, except for northwestern. Aside from having higher selectivity in admissions, including higher sat scores, top 10% of student'ss class, better retention and graduation rates, and notwithstanding uconn is a top 20 public school, #58 nationally, while mizzou is ranked in the 90's, your troll post is spot on... The same comparison can be made against syracuse. Uconn is better than su and ru.

Oh, about that vaunted aau, how's nebraska doing? Oh wait, that academic power house known as oregon is a member but notre dame isn't?

uconn

I fail to see how having a smaller enrollment factors in to the equation at all. All of your facts about our undergraduate programs are true, but again, if the Big 10 isn't blowing hot air when they say that AAU membership is highly important in regards to membership, then Missouri and Rutgers have an edge. Disparage the AAU as much as you like, but that simply does not alter the fact that Jim Delaney has repeated on multiple occasions the importance of membership.