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zls44 said:
Paramount plus launched nearly a year after Peacock did.

You can’t even get simple facts right! Embarassing conduct! I thought I was gonna spar with a pro here!

Iger is not interested in selling the longtime cash cow of the company. ESPN is why Disney could buy Pixar. And Marvel. And Star Wars. The film division’s in the toilet and he’s going to jettison the thing that makes money? Sure.

(I’d rather work for Apple tho)
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finance.yahoo.com

ESPN used to be Disney’s cash cow. Now, its revenue is declining, and Bob Iger is looking to sell a stake

The sports network depends on cable TV for revenue. But cable is on the decline since the rise of streaming.
finance.yahoo.com finance.yahoo.com

So Iger was lying when he said he would sell ESPN?
 
zls44 said:
I think spinning it into its own business unit with incredible financial reports will make it more likely. But who’s got $8b AND can clear regulatory hurdles? Short list.
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It's an even shorter list of companies who are willing to invest in a revenue model that is dying.
 
huskymedic said:
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Interesting… I called charter yesterday to complain and ask for a credit. They gave me $15 with zero pushback.

Asked if this was a one time credit or should I expect additional credits if this continues. He said they expected this to be resolved soon.

Likely it’s a script they’ve been given, but it sets wrong expectation if true.
 
zls44 said:
I think spinning it into its own business unit with incredible financial reports will make it more likely. But who’s got $8b AND can clear regulatory hurdles? Short list.
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Sorry fellas, only got $7.5B in the bank. Summer is almost over, could sell the yacht I suppose.
 
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zls44 said:
Paramount plus launched nearly a year after Peacock did.
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Showtime has been available online for over a decade.

Don't you know anything about your own industry? Do you know which way you are supposed to point the camera? How microphones work? How the people in the studio get onto your laptop? It is not magic.
 
For the record, I like that a poster is going to get on the RMS ESPN after it has hit a few icebergs. This is going to be fun.
 
zls44 said:
…are you actually questioning Marchand’s credentials? He’s one of the most tied in reporters in the entire industry and hosts the biggest podcast on the subject, so yes, he’s incredibly authoritative.
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The guy that said that Charter was mad that ESPN was going DTC when Charter's whole diatribe about the failing video business was that it was becoming a money loser for Charter? Either the guy is an ESPN shill, an idiot, or both.
 
zls44 said:
Good summary here from Andrew Marchand.

Charter has already agreed to pay Disney more money for ESPN. That is not in dispute.

The dispute is Charter wants subscribers to have access to Disney+ and ESPN+. I agree with them on that point!

nypost.com

Aaron Rodgers’ Jets debut could help force end to Charter-ESPN battle

If the Spectrum versus ESPN battle is the Super Bowl of cable rights disputes, then Aaron Rodgers may be the one who settles it.
nypost.com nypost.com
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UConnJim said:
Interesting topic. I have seen some investment presentations on the subject and Disney/ESPN is one of the top streamers and the clear leader in the clubhouse when it comes to sports streaming. The key question for Disney/ESPN is can they attract enough subscribers/price high enough to offset the captive cable subscriber losses. We will see, but I'm skeptical. But, must watch teams/games will become very valuable to the streamers as that will drive subscribers and pricing.

I have always said that the streaming world is a positive for UConn sports. Why? UConn athletics are undervalued, in my opinion, from a media value standpoint. Heck UConn women's basketball is worth more than BC athletics media value as UConn's women's basketball draws the fans. What currently props up BC's value is football games against Notre Dame, Clemson, Florida St.,... not the size of BC's fanbase.
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Instead of any form of physical punishment, prisons are forcing recalcitrant prisoners to watch BC sports on the ACCN... As a result incidents of bad behavior have declined to record lows...
 
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huskymedic said:
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He does not understand Spectrum's position.

Spectrum is saying that non-ESPN watchers shouldn't have to pay for ESPN, not that people should get stuff for free. Now if ESPN is going to sell a competitive product outside of Spectrum, and is demanding that every Spectrum customer pay for ESPN, I think it is very reasonable for Spectrum to say that its customers should not have to pay twice for two very similar products, even if there are some differences on the ESPN+ end.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
He does not understand Spectrum's position.

Spectrum is saying that non-ESPN watchers shouldn't have to pay for ESPN, not that people should get stuff for free. Now if ESPN is going to sell a competitive product outside of Spectrum, and is demanding that every Spectrum customer pay for ESPN, I think it is very reasonable for Spectrum to say that its customers should not have to pay twice for two very similar products, even if there are some differences on the ESPN+ end.
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Ala carte offering is what we are heading. Consumers should only pay for things they actually watch.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
Ala carte offering is what we are heading. Consumers should only pay for things they actually watch.
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You could just do PPV at that point. For live sports it could be 50 cents or a dollar per hour. Each basketball game is $2 and football is $3.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
Ala carte offering is what we are heading. Consumers should only pay for things they actually watch.
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Not the way @zls44 sees it. He thinks cable is making a COMEBACK!!!!!!!

Back in the real world, I agree with you. And the implications of this extend beyond just ESPN and Fox, although ESPN was by far the biggest beneficiary of carriage fees relative to viewers.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Not the way @zls44 sees it. He thinks cable is making a COMEBACK!!!!!!!

Back in the real world, I agree with you. And the implications of this extend beyond just ESPN and Fox, although ESPN was by far the biggest beneficiary of carriage fees relative to viewers.
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Oh, goodness no. Cable is in clear decline. That’s why Charter wants to quit entirely.

But they won’t. Not yet.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
Ala carte offering is what we are heading. Consumers should only pay for things they actually watch.
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Classic be careful what you wish for, you just might get it scenario.
 
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zls44 said:
Oh, goodness no. Cable is in clear decline. That’s why Charter wants to quit entirely.

But they won’t. Not yet.
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Cable companies already invested a huge amount of money into their outdated coaxial infrastructure. They will do their best to try to offer internet over that along with cable TV.

The Trend is more and more people are subscribing to what they actually watch, and that won't change any time soon.

People that already cut the cord because they don't want to pay the over priced cable subscriptions for things they don't watch. Streaming is the future, and people will just pay for things they actually watch.

UConn needs to start to position itself for this future. UConn should definitely try to get a combo of linear TV and streaming contract if possible. Hopefully, we can get paid more than what we are getting now.
 
Charter caved.

They always do.

 
zls44 said:
Charter caved.

They always do.

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CABLE IS BACK, BABY!!!!!!

It is funny that you claim to be a UConn fan, yet you are hoping for an outcome that is both A) extremely unlikely (Cable regaining subscribers) and B) very bad for UConn. You actually are rooting for UConn's athletic program to die.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
CABLE IS BACK, BABY!!!!!!

It is funny that you claim to be a UConn fan, yet you are hoping for an outcome that is both A) extremely unlikely (Cable regaining subscribers) and B) very bad for UConn. You actually are rooting for UConn's athletic program to die.
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I was right. You were wrong.

It’s amazing how this happens every time. Undefeated.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
CABLE IS BACK, BABY!!!!!!

It is funny that you claim to be a UConn fan, yet you are hoping for an outcome that is both A) extremely unlikely (Cable regaining subscribers) and B) very bad for UConn. You actually are rooting for UConn's athletic program to die.
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He hated the Big12 potential move and said the ACC was a better fit. You can't fit where you're not wanted. But whatever. Kicking the can down the road with this move.
 
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According to WSJ, Charter customers will get the ad supported Disney+ and ESPN+ in their cable packages. Disney+ is included in TV Select and ESPN+ is included in the sports tier. Thus, I will now get both included in my cable package. And, when ESPN launches its direct to consumer channel, it appears I will get that as well.

ESPN+/Disney+/ESPN DTC are Disney's cable growth engines, so I would view the deal as somewhat negative for Disney in the LT. Charter basically got what they wanted, although they are paying Disney a higher fee.
 
I would definitely say Charter won out this round but if ESPN partners with say Amazon on their DTC model then they will gain more leverage going forward
 
Everyone got something they wanted.

Well, not the consumers, of course. But there’s a lot for Disney and Charter here to like.
 
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