Steve Mariucci makes comment about PP...

[HartfordHank]

Well, technically, Thomas was not recruited. They found him playing pick up hoops in the Field House.

Not the first time that has happened. Isn't the 7 footer for LSU a former band member? I believe he played the tuba.

 

[Srqhusky]

Why not? He had almost a .600 winning % with the 49ers and made Jeff Garcia into more than a servicable quarter back. His Lions teams stunk, but he was also the one who wasted three straight first rounders on wideouts. Now if you made this comment about Matt Millen, I'd agree wholeheartedly.

Just surprised with the amount of talent he had on the lions not to make the playoffs. Offense and defense he is stacked. Seemed like a big pot callin kettle to me.

 

[Husky25]

Just surprised with the amount of talent he had on the lions not to make the playoffs. Offense and defense he is stacked. Seemed like a big pot callin kettle to me.

Well the man makes his living giving his opinion on the NFL Network. It's not like he is on Cable Access in Aurora, Illinois. John Gruden and Brian Billick were fired from their coaching gig after a few sub-par seasons too. Billick, an offensive coach, didn't have proliffic offenses in Baltimore as he did in Minnesota either. Are their opinions invalid?

 

[Jax Husky]

Todman, Brown, Thomas and Beattie and I don't follow the team that closely. Or are they not offensive talent?

You've named 4 decent offensive players, and none of them has been a Husky for over 2 years. We've had some good OL, but that is about where it ends. Edsall left CPP a pretty good TE, a couple decent OL, no even mediocre WR, exactly ONE RB (who is 165 lbs soaking wet), no D1 QB...

 

[ZooCougar]

The Pasqualistas are much more sensitive than the Apologistas.

More sensitive and a three of them must be relatives. That's the only rational reason one would make excuses for these dumb ducks.

 

[Nostical]

You've named 4 decent offensive players, and none of them has been a Husky for over 2 years. We've had some good OL, but that is about where it ends. Edsall left CPP a pretty good TE, a couple decent OL, no even mediocre WR, exactly ONE RB (who is 165 lbs soaking wet), no D1 QB...

How about Nick Williams? We should see him playing on Sundays, too.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

How about Nick Williams? We should see him playing on Sundays, too.

I love Nick Williams. But come on now.

 

[Srqhusky]

Well the man makes his living giving his opinion on the NFL Network. It's not like he is on Cable Access in Aurora, Illinois. John Gruden and Brian Billick were fired from their coaching gig after a few sub-par seasons too. Billick, an offensive coach, didn't have proliffic offenses in Baltimore as he did in Minnesota either. Are their opinions invalid?

I don't know am I going to take advice on my golf swing from someone who is slicing the ball with custom pings

 

[Husky25]

How about Nick Williams? We should see him playing on Sundays, too.

I don't think the Canadian League plays on Sundays.

Unfortunately for Nick Williams, I dont see him as NFL caliber, but crazier things have happened (Edelman, Troy Brown playing defensive back, all 5'-6" of Brandon Banks, and Vince Papale ).

 

[Jax Husky]

I don't think the Canadian League plays on Sundays.

Unfortunately for Nick Williams, I dont see him as NFL caliber, but crazier things have happened (Edelman, Troy Brown playing defensive back, all 5'-6" of Brandon Banks, and Vince Papale ).

Yeah, Nick is a good college player, but hardly an NFL talent, and really hardly even top tier for BCS conferences. It just appears that way because he was the only guy that could do much for this horribly bad offensive team.

 

[Nostical]

I love Nick Williams. But come on now.

Unfortunately for Nick Williams, I dont see him as NFL caliber

Yeah, Nick is a good college player, but hardly an NFL talent

Really? I wouldnt be so dismissive. Nick is a very determined kid.

NFL DRAFT PROSPECT WATCH : Keep an eye on: KR Nick Williams, 5-10, 184, Connecticut: Williams, was an electrifying returner on both punts and kickoffs for UConn. The senior wideout is UConn's all-time leader in return yardage (2,515). Williams could be an intriguing late-round pick. Matt Rybaltowski, CBSSports.com.

Wes Welker was a star at Texas Tech who went undrafted and was cut by the Chargers before emerging as an elite NFL receiver. At the 2004 NFL Combine, Welker, 5-9/185, ran the 40-yard dash in 4.65 seconds.
Nick Williams, 5-10/184 last ran the 40 in 4.5 seconds. (That was before all his workouts preparing for this years Proday on March 27th.)

 

[Husky25]

Really? I wouldnt be so dismissive. Nick is a very determined kid.

NFL DRAFT PROSPECT WATCH : Keep an eye on: KR Nick Williams, 5-10, 184, Connecticut: Williams, was an electrifying returner on both punts and kickoffs for UConn. The senior wideout is UConn's all-time leader in return yardage (2,515). Williams could be an intriguing late-round pick. Matt Rybaltowski, CBSSports.com.

Wes Welker was a star at Texas Tech who went undrafted and was cut by the Chargers before emerging as an elite NFL receiver. At the 2004 NFL Combine, Welker, 5-9/185, ran the 40-yard dash in 4.65 seconds.
Nick Williams, 5-10/184 last ran the 40 in 4.5 seconds. (That was before all his workouts preparing for this years Proday on March 27th.)

Now quote the part where I say strange things have happened and reference brandon banks.

 

[Nostical]

Unfortunately for Nick Williams, I dont see him as NFL caliber, but crazier things have happened (Edelman, Troy Brown playing defensive back, all 5'-6" of Brandon Banks, and Vince Papale ).

How's that?

 

[Husky25]

Runs

How's that?

Thanks, Buddy!!! ;-)

 

[Jax Husky]

Wes Welker doesn't drop passes. I really like the kid and certainly hope he makes it, but using Nick Williams as an example of the stellar offensive talent Edsall brought to UConn really proves my point.

 

[sdhusky]

Really? Wes Welker was a star at Texas Tech who went undrafted and was cut by the Chargers before emerging as an elite NFL receiver. At the 2004 NFL Combine, Welker, 5-9/185, ran the 40-yard dash in 4.65 seconds.
Nick Williams, 5-10/184 last ran the 40 in 4.5 seconds. (That was before all his workouts preparing for this years Proday on March 27th.)

Welker caught 259 passes in college.

259.

259.

Williams caught 43.

I notice a difference.

 

[ZooCougar]

Welker caught 259 passes in college.

259.

259.

Williams caught 43.

I notice a difference.

Welker had an offensive savant calling the plays for his offense.

Williams had Luther Van Dyke calling plays his offense.

 

[sdhusky]

Welker had an offensive savant calling the plays for his offense.

Williams had Luther Van Dyke calling plays his offense.

Ok. Are you suggesting Nick and Wes are equals?

Or just taking a moment to do what you do best. Whine.

 

[ZooCougar]

Ok. Are you suggesting Nick and Wes are equals?

Or just taking a moment to do what you do best. Whine.

No, pointing out that a player's value can be masked by bad decsions by a terrible coach. You are implying that Luther's playcalling is equal to Mike Leach's.

You're a Ding Dong.

 

[UconnFamily]

Ok. Are you suggesting Nick and Wes are equals?

Or just taking a moment to do what you do best. Whine.

Let's not forget "sdhusky" Texas Tech has had a pass friendly offense for years with great QB's. If you put Nick Williams in a pass friendly offense such as Texas Tech, West Virginia, Baylor etc... your looking at a different stats for Nick Williams. I think 43 catches is pretty good for a kid who played WR for about 1 year if you ask me, and that's under George DeLeone's pathetic offense. Nick is bigger, stronger, and faster than Wes Welker, however Welker was given the opportunity to play in a waaaaaaaay better offensive system.

I personally do not believe it was a lack of talent on offense, it was a lack of offensive coaching and developing talent. How can everyone be fooled by Edsall's success and say it's because he had talent. Edsall always recruited 2* sometime low 3* players but yet was very successful, why? Because he coached his kids, he made sure he got the most out of his players and it transitioned well on the field. What kind of coach is up 2 touchdowns in the first half, then starts to run the ball for the last 2 quarters with a back that's 5'7 165lbs up the gut almost every play? how can you show talent by doing that? that's just poor coaching.

Charlie Weis had 4* and 5* players at Notre Dame and was not successful at all because he didn't get the most out of his players. Anybody can sit there and say he didn't have talent at Notre Dame because they stunk, but that clearly wasn't the case with the recruits he brought in.

Gene Chizik's quote "The problems on this team have not been created by a lack of talent. They have been created by a lack of developed talent."

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/spor...zik-auburn-mississippi-state-blame/57704678/1

Say what you guys want, but the lack of offense was not because of talent, it was poor developed talent in DeLeone's part.

• WR-Geremy Davis- 3* player out of Georgia
• OL-Bryan Paull- 3* player out of Florida
• OL-Steve Green- 3* player out of PA
• OL-Dalton Gifford- 3* player out of ME
• WR-Shakim Phillips- 4* player out of New Jersey
• QB-Chandler Whitmer- 4* player out of Georgia
• OL-Jimmy Bennet- 3* player out of Virginia
• OL-Gary Bardzak- 3* player out of PA under DeLeone system for a year
• OL-Xavier Hemingway- 3* player out of Georgia

That looks like talent to me. George DeLeone hasn't developed the talent he had point and simple! That list does not include:

• OL- Mike Ryan- who was a stud before DeLeone came in...
• WR/KR- Nick Williams
• OL- Moe Petrus- who was a stud before DeLeone came in...
• WR- Kashif Moore- they had for two years and he was a 3* player out of New Jersey
• TE- Ryan Griffin- who they did not utilize much (talent)

The list just goes on... There was and still is talent here on both sides of the ball. It was obvious Don Brown developed his talent on defense and DeLeone has done a poor job developing his talent on offense, yet some of you guys scream it's talent... Smh! DeLeone is out as OC for a reason! We had enough talent to score points. When you run a 5'7 165lb RB up the gut all the time, which puts your QB in a 3rd and long situation all the time that puts a lot of pressure on Whitmer and other players on offense believe it or not. Again, with poor offensive coaching the talent won't shine...

Look at what Hazel did with Kent State... that school was full of 2* players, but he coached his players up to win and shine... They even beat Rutgers and made there defense look lost, did we? nah cause of talent right? LOL some of you guys need to open up your eyes!

 

[huskysupporter]

People do realize that "bigger, stronger, and faster" does not make you the best football player, right? Nick Williams is a great kick returner. He was an average to below average receiver and it had zero to do with GDL's schemes. He dropped the ball, had trouble locating the ball in the air, and could not get separation.

Wes Welker is one of the best route runners in the nfl. I am a little embarrassed people are even comparing the two.

 

[ZooCougar]

People do realize that "bigger, stronger, and faster" does not make you the best football player, right? Nick Williams is a great kick returner. He was an average to below average receiver and it had zero to do with GDL's schemes. He dropped the ball, had trouble locating the ball in the air, and could not get separation.

Wes Welker is one of the best route runners in the nfl. I am a little embarrassed people are even comparing the two.

We're GDL's schemes responsible for anything? Maybe he was doing such a great job that we should have kept his an OC.

 

[huskysupporter]

We're GDL's schemes responsible for anything? Maybe he was doing such a great job that we should have kept his an OC.

GDL's erratic playcalling and infatuation with the wildcat should ensure he never calls plays again.

I think what's lost on some is that it was not only the schemes, it was the personnel. There was not much talent on offense last season.

 

[jrazz12]

GDL's erratic playcalling and infatuation with the wildcat should ensure he never calls plays again.

I think what's lost on some is that it was not only the schemes, it was the personnel. There was not much talent on offense last season.

This argument about talent is irrelevant. And I'm not going after you here but this common theme.

We've never had much talent on offense. Really ever, at least collectively at one time. We've had some stud RB's, good oline play, and Easley at wideout sprinkled in over the years. And yet with defenses not quite as good as we had last year, we still made it to bowl games season after season, with one being the Fiesta Bowl.

Yet GDL couldn't direct the offense out of a paper bag. No one's talking about world class offensive talent, but we had a handful of players that are at worst "serviceable" or manageable, on par with the talent level of prior seasons. And yet we achieved a level of incompetence on offense that is matched by only 2 or 3 other cellar-dwelling programs in all of FBS football.

When the level of play of the defense is a constant (for the most part), and the talent level on offense is a constant (for the most part), with the only change in the equation being the coaching and direction of the offense, it seems pretty clear to me where 8-9 win seasons become 5 wins and staying home in December and January.

 

[IMind]

We were 113th in total offense last year and 108th the year before that. We had better talent than that. GDL was awful. End of story.