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Stanford streak in danger

I watched them again today. They are truly awful. Coaching has been a major issue all season.
 
topogigio said:
The current state of Stanford Women's Basketball really demonstrates what a great coach brings to a program. I cannot fathom this 9-6 record under Tara. Maybe she knew something was up last year and got out while the gettins' good.
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We can speculate but can never know how different Stanford’s record would be if VanDerveer were still the head coach. The Cardinal had two exceptional AA’s last year in Brink and Iriafen plus outside threat Hannah Jump now all gone. This season’s roster has talent and potential - it could have and should have beat LSU in Baton Rouge - but lacks consistency and, it seems, a strong clear cut leader on the floor. Perhaps that leader is Agara? Here’s to hoping the team improves as conference season progresses.

Longer term can the new coaching staff land very top level prospects as they did previously when they got Brink, Haley Jones, Betts, Kiana Smith and the like?
 
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topogigio said:
The current state of Stanford Women's Basketball really demonstrates what a great coach brings to a program. I cannot fathom this 9-6 record under Tara. Maybe she knew something was up last year and got out while the gettins' good.
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Possible, but I do think that Tara could have this year's team looking much better (more organized) than they've looked under Paye.
 
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WBBTakeover said:
Possible, but I do think that Tara could have this year's team looking much better (more organized) than they've looked under Paye.
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Hard to rush to judgment. Paye is Tara's hand picked successor. Could be like Tenn, where hand picking did not work out, or they will figure it out.

Stanford basically can't take incoming transfers due academic barrier/transfer credit problems, but they can lose transfers out. I'm not sure what they are doing with NIL.

Current team reflects that reality.

They will still always get a top 5 hs recruiting class.

Wow, these giant league schedules are tough. Still in Jan they have Wake, Duke, Cal, Pitt. If they somehow went 3-1 in that stretch, at least they would still be in the hunt.
 
packwrap said:
Hard to rush to judgment. Paye is Tara's hand picked successor. Could be like Tenn, where hand picking did not work out, or they will figure it out.

Stanford basically can't take incoming transfers due academic barrier/transfer credit problems, but they can lose transfers out. I'm not sure what they are doing with NIL.

Current team reflects that reality.

They will still always get a top 5 hs recruiting class.

Wow, these giant league schedules are tough. Still in Jan they have Wake, Duke, Cal, Pitt. If they somehow went 3-1 in that stretch, at least they would still be in the hunt.
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I do agree to an extent that it's too early to judge Kate Paye, but the early returns are not looking too good. Still, there are too many variables involved to pin it solely on her. I do attribute a good bit of the blame to her, though, as this is her program now. Barring a miracle finish, they will miss the NCAA Tournament this season. In the absence of major transfers out, I would expect them to make the tournament next season.

As for the bolded, they're clearly not doing enough if they lost Kiki Iriafen to Southern Cal and NiJaree Canady (softball) to Texas Tech.

To me, the best-case scenario for that schedule is 2-2, but 0-4 is possible.
 
Trees lost to NC State by 14 yesterday, despite a big rally. They are 9-7 and 1-4 in conference.
 
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packwrap said:
Hard to rush to judgment. Paye is Tara's hand picked successor. Could be like Tenn, where hand picking did not work out, or they will figure it out.

Stanford basically can't take incoming transfers due academic barrier/transfer credit problems, but they can lose transfers out. I'm not sure what they are doing with NIL.

Current team reflects that reality.

They will still always get a top 5 hs recruiting class.

Wow, these giant league schedules are tough. Still in Jan they have Wake, Duke, Cal, Pitt. If they somehow went 3-1 in that stretch, at least they would still be in the hunt.
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Looks like they have a couple of transfers this year. Mary Ashley Stevenson was at Purdue last year, and Tess Heal played 2 years at Santa Clara.
 
WBBTakeover said:
As for the bolded, they're clearly not doing enough if they lost Kiki Iriafen to Southern Cal and NiJaree Canady (softball) to Texas Tech.
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Kiki graduated and the Stanford grad programs are all tough admits; no easy 1 yr Masters. Hard to be upset for a kid who will have B.S. from Stanford in Design Engineering and a Masters from USC.

Kiki getting the most out of her free education.
 
triaddukefan said:
We would look a lot better if we were playing Butler and Providence instead of each other ;)



You do know those are fighting words here in NC :mad:
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Yes but what can I do, when it's not available where I live? :D
 
Well the women’s team will now know how the men’s team would feel. Since the men’s team “would be ecstatic to be playing two games in the NCAA Tournament” :cool::rolleyes:
 
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packwrap said:
Kiki graduated and the Stanford grad programs are all tough admits; no easy 1 yr Masters. Hard to be upset for a kid who will have B.S. from Stanford in Design Engineering and a Masters from USC.

Kiki getting the most out of her free education.
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Except that she didn't need to graduate in three years and could have stayed a fourth, and the inducement to leave (purportedly) was an $800k NIL offer from U$C that Stanford either wouldn't or couldn't match. It all seems heart warming at the surface and I guess I don't begrudge her, but I respect people who finish what they started, and she's obviously left us incredibly high and dry this year.
 
TheFarmFan said:
Except that she didn't need to graduate in three years and could have stayed a fourth, and the inducement to leave (purportedly) was an $800k NIL offer from U$C that Stanford either wouldn't or couldn't match.
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This figure is mind-blowing to me. 800k for one year? She's a very good player, but how many pro women players in the entire world are pulling in that much a year?
 
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Vowelguy said:
Time to come out of the bunker.
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Nope. Cheerwine needs to figure a way to be available across the border. :p
TheFarmFan said:
Don't worry I hear you'll be annexed in a weeks' time and then all the cheerwine in the world can be yours! ;)
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Hey, absorbing our insane amount of debt as a trade off? Hmmmmm. Too bad there's no one to approve that offer up here right now. If you guys can wait until March or June, this could be the key to making negotiations happen! ;)
 
Plebe said:
This figure is mind-blowing to me. 800k for one year? She's a very good player, but how many pro women players in the entire world are pulling in that much a year?
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I don't call it U$C just because it's a cheap shot at a historically unethical rival. The institution's longstanding MO has been to buy its success rather than earn it, and unfortunately she's just the latest example. Or do you think it's a coincidence that U$C has suddenly emerged as a top contender after 30 years wandering in the desert?
 
TheFarmFan said:
I don't call it U$C just because it's a cheap shot at a historically unethical rival. The institution's longstanding MO has been to buy its success rather than earn it, and unfortunately she's just the latest example. Or do you think it's a coincidence that U$C has suddenly emerged as a top contender after 30 years wandering in the desert?
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Your killing me, here I thought I'd found the "last student-athlete".:rolleyes:

I even found out during a lull in LSU/Vandy that Kiki's m.s. at U$C is in Entrepreneurship and Innovation. I think that $800k may be starting a design business.

You are right, U$C funded JuJu, Kiki, TVO and the kids.

If Stanford decides to join the arms race, there is plenty of dough available.
 
packwrap said:
Your killing me, here I thought I'd found the "last student-athlete".:rolleyes:

I even found out during a lull in LSU/Vandy that Kiki's m.s. at U$C is in Entrepreneurship and Innovation. I think that $800k may be starting a design business.

You are right, U$C funded JuJu, Kiki, TVO and the kids.

If Stanford decides to join the arms race, there is plenty of dough available.
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As much as I hate being an irrelevant afterthought this season (although thanks to @Vowelguy, apparently not so irrelevant cough cough), I really hope Stanford doesn't join the arms race. The whole reason why I love my alma mater so much is the principled effort to try to keep everything in balance. If we drop academic standards and engage in pure pay-to-play, let's just drop the "college" part too and make it a minor league team.

In college I took meals in the same cafeteria as Wade Trophy Winner Candice Wiggins, was in a 12-person seminar with Tim Morris and Dan Grunfeld the year they were #1 in the country, and went to senior prom with a group that included a three-time NCAA champion tennis player. But off the field, they were regular students just like me, in section with me, stressing about finals in the basement of Green library with me, and having waaaaay too much to drink before Athlete Formal with me. It was the epitome of what we once called a "student-athlete," and it's pretty sad to think those days are numbered, if not already gone.
 
I wonder how Stanford will deal with NIL. Stanford will always be great in Olympic sports, because, it's Stanford. But the major NIL sports like football and basketball, will have a very hard time, IMO.
 
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