Standford is suppose to be the smart kids

[Carnac]

Replay showed no clear evidence of a push, only a lean, and Bielibi bit on the lean. maybe a light push on the back, that's all it takes, but you don't get a clear view of such

I recorded the game. I looked at that play 5-6 times. Can’t tell if Boston nudged or pulled her. She did have her hand on Belibi’s left torso. How much she “helped” Belibi step into the lane is questionable.

Both of them were leaning over their skis. That was a huge play at the time. It negated the 2nd free throw which could have lead to a 2 point basket on a offensive rebound and put back by Stanford.

 

[Rixxx]

I think Belibi's vertical space was violated, hence a foul on Boston. This , IMO is never called anywhere.

 

[CocoHusky]

I just think if an adult is going to insult college kids for "not being smart" the least you can do is spell the name of the school you are trying to insult correctly.

 

[cancontent]

I was switching back and forth from the Eagles game and the SC/Stanford game. So, I didn't see much of what Brink brought to the game. I do know that against TN and SC she was pretty much neutralized by a big center ( Key/Boston). Picking up fouls didn't help either. Consistent offensive play by Brink would have helped in the Cardinal loss. She and Prechtel did not offset Boston (points).
What killed SC IMO was the offense provided by Henderson. She is a different player this year.

You meant "killed" in a positive way correct? Typically, that word is considered a negative.

 

[Rixxx]

Typo. Thanks. What killed Stanford....

 

[triaddukefan]

Not sure why this thread is in this forum.... Seems more like a thread for the general board. But what do I know..

 

[cancontent]

Typo. Thanks. What killed Stanford....

Thought that was what you meant. Seemed a little odd that Henderson would hurt her team while helping them win.

I've been there with the typos on this board. I can empathize.

 

[Mdoggie]

STANFORD LOST BECAUSE SC SCORED MORE POINTS!!!

 

[Mdoggie]

Stanford looked a lot like UConn out there, showing a lack of composure at key moments...........they should have won that game....

No. If they should’ve they would’ve. You’re not gonna win many games if you let the other team go in a 22-4 run.

 

[CocoHusky]

STANFORD LOST BECAUSE SC SCORED MORE POINTS!!!

 

[GoUconn7961]

The bigger problem was Brinks shot. Terrible decision making.

The minute she tossed that ball up I couldn't believe it. What was she thinking?

 

[BBallF]

Boston clearly violated h:


h - Any player occupying any of the legal marked lane spaces on each side
of the lane breaks the vertical plane of a lane-space boundary before the
free-thrower has released the ball.

"Vertical plane" is not limited to the 2 lines which mark the lane from the FT line to the baseline. It includes the shorter lines which mark each lane-space.

Don't count me as a sour-graper. I was hoping both teams lost.

Exactly. Otherwise there would be no need for the shorter lines like it was years ago.

 

[JRRRJ]

Are you suggesting that ANY contact between players during the free throw - as long as they stay standing in their spaces and do not step into the lane - is a rule violation?

According to subsection h. of the rule, it apparently is. That subsection says any breaking of the lane space boundaries before the ball is released is a violation. It's not limited to feed. So if two players touch before the shot is released, one of them has committed a violation.

I'm stunned that shooting a freethrow that doesn't go in or touch the basket is a violation. See subsection a. I don't think I've ever seen a player miss the basket, but I know I've never seen that called.

 

[BBallF]

I recorded the game. I looked at that play 5-6 times. Can’t tell if Boston nudged or pulled her. She did have her hand on Belibi’s left torso. How much she “helped” Belibi step into the lane is questionable.

Both of them were leaning over their skis. That was a huge play at the time. It negated the 2nd free throw which could have lead to a 2 point basket on a offensive rebound and put back by Stanford.

The point is not the lean/push it's the fact that Boston violated the rule by entering the vertical space of the player next to her with her arm and body before the shot was taken thereby gaining any unfair advantage under the rule and thereby making that player off balance and further making that player enter the lane.

Beyond that, Tara dropped a notch in my book. Terrible play with 24 seconds left and down 1. Tell Haley or Lexi to get the ball at the top of the key, clear everyone out with movement and let either of them drive. Shot by Brink was horrible.

 

[Mdoggie]

Entry to Brink was fine at the Elbow. My Monday night coaching tells me that once the ball was entered, maybe Jones should’ve posted up her much smaller defender on the low block for a high low between her and Brink. Damn I’m a great coach!!!

 

[JordyG]

Stanford lost the game because of the refs. not because South Carolina is better.

Maybe and most possibly. But that hardly makes up for the non calls in the semi-final game last year when SCar was the victim in that last sequence under the basket.

 

[Charliebball]

No. If they should’ve they would’ve. You’re not gonna win many games if you let the other team go in a 22-4 run.

they did almost the same thing in their previous game with Tennessee but managed to recover in the last few minutes.......I think they had the ball and the lead with less than two minutes in the SC game but simply couldn't finish it out........

 

[eebmg]

Stanford simply could not tunnel through the SC (Quantum) Barrier

 

[Vowelguy]

 

[Carnac]

The point is not the lean/push it's the fact that Boston violated the rule by entering the vertical space of the player next to her with her arm and body before the shot was taken thereby gaining any unfair advantage under the rule and thereby making that player off balance and further making that player enter the lane.

Beyond that, Tara dropped a notch in my book. Terrible play with 24 seconds left and down 1. Tell Haley or Lexi to get the ball at the top of the key, clear everyone out with movement and let either of them drive. Shot by Brink was horrible.

Thanks for the clarification. Looking at that play, and having been in that situation many times, it didn’t look Kosher to me. Even though she got away with one, it looked like Boston played a LARGE part in Bellibi violating the lane.

In almost every situation, players will reach over and put their arm on the player next to them. If that’s a violation, it’s never called.

 

[BBallF]

Thanks for the clarification. Looking at that play, and having been in that situation many times, it didn’t look Kosher to me. Even though she got away with one, it looked like Boston played a LARGE part in Bellibi violating the lane.

Exactly, and her pre-shot position with her arm and body in Bellini's space was a violation in and of itself even if nothing else happened. The point is you don't get to pre-box out before you are allowed to box out. "But hey, it's the women, let them play." I am so aggravated with the women's officiating and their projected attitude to the rules set forth above in my mind that I could scream at times. I actually have.

 

[Carnac]

Exactly, and her pre-shot position with her arm and body in Bellini's space was a violation in and of itself even if nothing else happened. The point is you don't get to pre-box out before you are allowed to box out. "But hey, it's the women, let them play." I am so aggravated with the women's officiating and their projected attitude to the rules set forth above in my mind that I could scream at times. I actually have.

That was YOU?

 

[triaddukefan]

So much whining in this thread, thought for a minute I was on the Chapel Hill message board

 

[Mdoggie]

So much whining in this thread, thought for a minute I was on the Chapel Hill message board

Or Volnation.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

If she pushes her it is a foul. I did not see any push, she leaned in and Stanford player stepped into the lane, Boston also stepped into the lane but it was after the Stanford player committed the lane violation. I thought the refs got that one right but there were obvious fouls that were not called. SC being the most physical team benefited from the missed calls.

I tend to agree with this, but I have a bias. Although, I'm not sure it's completely obvious SC is the more physical team. They are both extremely physical teams, IMO.