St Johns Postgame Thread

[SVCBeercats]

 

[tchalla1]

Also Paige fell 2 points shy of Tina's freshman record 34 points.

No worries--Paige will break that in the next few games....

 

[tchalla1]

Interesting that CW didn't tell Geno she "couldn't go" until halfway through pregame warm ups. A contrast to Nika's "just put more tape on it."

I don't get your point or comparison: two different players with different injuries--and you don't know the intent of their respective injuries. So what is interesting about this?

 

[CocoHusky]

Interesting that CW didn't tell Geno she "couldn't go" until halfway through pregame warm ups. A contrast to Nika's "just put more tape on it."

That's not fair. CW had every incentive to play considering she was coming off arguably the best game of her UCONN career. Both players were injured. We don't know that they were equally injured. One player was injured enough to be able to play the other was not. No need to contrast the players this way as to imply one was tougher than the other.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

I don't get your point or comparison: two different players with different injuries--and you don't know the intent of their respective injuries. So what is interesting about this?

I would think a starter who was injured in morning shoot around would bring it to her coach's attention before late afternoon shortly before game time that she could not go. I was too cryptic about Nika, but she did not take herself out of the line up, merely asking for more taping. Nika is a warrior. I think there is a contrast with CW in that regard. I believe it was yesterday when Geno said Nika had grit enough for more than one person but there wasn't a lot more of it "around here."

 

[RockyMTblue2]

That’s not fair. CW had every reason to want to be out considering she was coming off the best

That's not fair. CW had every incentive to play considering she was coming off arguably the best game of her UCONN career. Both players were injured. We don't know that they were equally injured. One player was injured enough to be able to play the other was not. No need to contrast the players this way as to imply one was tougher than the other.

Perhaps I am being unfair.

 

[Carnac]

Correa is very, very good. I was super impressed.

And she’s only a sophomore.

 

[Carnac]

Stat of the game: UConn 15-17 from the FT line - 88.2%

Yes sir, I’ll take those numbers every game.

 

[dtbtbtb]

Was everyone shocked when Paige missed a 3 as i was? this kid looks like she could average 40 points per game if she only wanted to...

 

[hoopsfan22]

Was everyone shocked when Paige missed a 3 as i was? this kid looks like she could average 40 points per game if she only wanted to...

I think she gets tired. She played 39 minutes tonight, and a bunch of her mid-range attempts started clanking as the second half wore on. I get Geno wants her to shoot more, but you don't want her pressing either and jacking up shots just for the sake of it.

 

[RedStickHusky]

Perhaps I am being unfair.

Don't know if he meant to but Geno did sound disappointed post-game when he said "Christyn told me she couldn't go". My measured take after a little refection is that a) she tried to get through warm ups -- that's what players are gonna do; b) given all the BY talk about CW needing to be a slasher/defender/rebounder and not a hang-around the three-point line player, her playing through a bad ankle probably wouldn't help in that regard; c) it was a good night to see what some others can do. Aaliyah had a great game, being in the flow and keeping herself on the floor. Mir is earning her minutes even if Geno thinks she's lobbing hand grenades in the direction where she thinks the rim is. I'm still not sure Saylor can work herself into being a rotation player this year but it looks like she's being given the opportunity to try. Geno did say that Anna is not close to being back, so that may be a factor in Saylor getting a look. All-in-all probably a good night to give Christyn a rest with a heavy schedule coming up. Haven't seen much post-game talk about Aubrey, but in-game I heard chatter about back spasms, a bang to the knee and/or maybe ankle issues of her own. Fog of war, I guess, but it makes sense to be careful with her as well. Having both Aubrey and Mir available lets him keep a board crasher in for most of the game. If he's only got one of them, then he has to go smaller more often.

 

[JordyG]

I said it about 10 times during the game thread but...

Paige is scary.

 

[Boreifs]

I said it about 10 times during the game thread but...

Paige is scary.

I wonder how she compares to Ionescu at the same point in her career?

 

[MilfordHusky]

Also Paige fell 2 points shy of Tina's freshman record 34 points.

Hopefully, Paige will have another 15-20 games as a freshman to break it.

 

[MilfordHusky]

Stat of the game: UConn 15-17 from the FT line - 88.2%

That talented freshman can make 3-pointers but still misses the occasional free throw.

 

[Woof 101]

I think she gets tired. She played 39 minutes tonight, and a bunch of her mid-range attempts started clanking as the second half wore on. I get Geno wants her to shoot more, but you don't want her pressing either and jacking up shots just for the sake of it.

This has to be sarcasm and my meter battery low? No attack but she leads the team in several categories and is doing what Geno says to do. What more to ask for? Tonight she finally broke out of her shell and did exactly what Geno has been looking for. It was beautiful, 13 for 20 and 5 of 6 for tre's, 7 assists.
Not many of her shots are what would be called clankers or bricks, if it doesn't go in it is usually not off by much.
Just me but I'm good with her doing what is called for. The box...
Women's Basketball vs St. John's on 2/3/2021 - Box Score - University of Connecticut Athletics

That talented freshman can make 3-pointers but still misses the occasional free throw.

You are 100% correct, actually Nika leads the team in percentage from the line with 100%. Then again she has only taken two.
Season totals box.... Paige leads the regulars....

2021 Stats - University of Connecticut Athletics

2021 Stats

uconnhuskies.com

 

[MilfordHusky]

This has to be sarcasm and my meter battery low? No attack but she leads the team in several categories and is doing what Geno says to do. What more to ask for? Tonight she finally broke out of her shell and did exactly what Geno has been looking for. It was beautiful, 13 for 20 and 5 of 6 for tre's, 7 assists.
Not many of her shots are what would be called clankers or bricks, if it doesn't go in it is usually not off by much.
Just me but I'm good with her doing what is called for. The box...
Women's Basketball vs St. John's on 2/3/2021 - Box Score - University of Connecticut Athletics


You are 100% correct, actually Nika leads the team in percentage from the line with 100%. Then again she has only taken two.
Season totals box.... Paige leads the regulars....

2021 Stats - University of Connecticut Athletics

2021 Stats

uconnhuskies.com

I'm guessing that a certain friend in Northern Virginia is both congratulating Paige and giving her grief about shooting FTs at under 90%.

 

[Jingo]

Perhaps the best ball and player movement offensively this season. Lots of quick screens and cuts; very few moments when the ball was static. And all of this occurred when Christyn was not able to play. Ergo . . . ?
My observation is that she too often holds the ball outside the 3-point line, takes a couple aimless dribbles, then holds the ball, taking pressure off the defense, and not making it easier for her teammates to find lanes to cut. This is not definitive cause-and-effect, but I'll be interested in seeing if we can get this same kind of motion in the offense when she returns.

I think Liv is a big part of the excellent ball movement .. especially 'reversing' the ball to the weak side.
She also opened up the lane by hitting some key jumpers from the top o' the circle, eh? She's a better passer from the hi-post than AE.

 

[eebmg]

I think she gets tired. She played 39 minutes tonight, and a bunch of her mid-range attempts started clanking as the second half wore on. I get Geno wants her to shoot more, but you don't want her pressing either and jacking up shots just for the sake of it.

She was probably tired because her movement this game was the best of the season. She wsd cutting into the lane, running full circles on the perimeter, etc. She was hunting for opportunities. In past games, she would simetimes watch on the perimeter. And she is more and.more leading her team vocally. And she is the worst she will ever be.

 

[jazz]

My cents on the SJ game (guard focus):

Overall we were good switching on defense. A little slow on a couple close-outs. I thought our half -court defense was a bit of a hit and miss. We got a lot of turnovers but SJ shot a high percentage against us too. Take away some of the 25-30 turnovers SJ had and it might have been different. Of course you can’t do that but, I think it shows we are still a work in progress on half-court defense.

This is what you might get with PB playing some 2G or at least having NM in the game with better passing than CW. I thought SJ defense was really bad so I take some of this with a grain of salt.

PB – on fire. Mostly getting anything she wants via screens and creating space. Another game where she disrupts passing lanes. I hope she can do this against SC and the other top teams. I think she will now be a target to defend the most by top teams and not just another option. Can she still be effective against the opposing team’s added attention and best defender? The good news is that now the lesser defender will need to deal with CW and/or EW, making them even better options. PB makes everybody better.

NM can’t keep Drake in front of her. Went for the swipe which caused her to lose a step and get the 2nd foul. Good passing – once in the lane and another on a skip pass – not many players would have seen that or made that pass, and then she hits PB perfectly in stride for the 3 pointer.

Later some nice defense on Correa. Would have had 2 assists to AE- one on an excellent drive and kick out to AE for the foul line miss and another on the break, which AE missed also. Has another nice assist to EW on a nice pass in transition but EW missed. Made a couple nice steals and is really aggressive pushing the ball up court. Has no fear. Has excellent court vision. She can really pass the ball.

If we didn’t have PB, NM would be talked about a lot more. Defense was better later on - moving her feet better. Seems to start off slow defensively and then gets better as the game goes on. Continues to show her adaptivity. Good shooting. I thought her best shot was the last 3pter she made – lots of rotation and arc on the shot. She felt it.

She has made huge strides. I now expect this from her, at least against weak competition. Would have been close to a double double if players hit the bunnies she provided them. This from a freshman in her 10th or 11th game. Now think about that for a minute! Now what can she do against elite level teams??

 

[jazz]

My cents on the SJ game (wing and big focus):

EW – looks good going to the basket and then using her length to stop and pop from 8 ft. Shot was obviously off. Uses her length and savvy to disrupt passing lanes. Even if her shot is off, she helps in other ways as well.

AE – looking good. Impressed with her movement on offense, taking it to the basket, getting the two or the foul and her work in the boards. She is a finisher. Makes herself big for the entry pass and on the pick and roll. This is a good step forward for her. Almost had a double double! Didn't have any 'bull in a china shop' moments...

Liv – made a few from outside - I think she hit them all. I like her a lot better from just inside the 3 point line than just outside the line. One shot wasn’t so easy as the PB pass was too low. Hard for a big to catch a low pass and then shoot, but she got it done.

Picked up some fouls protecting the rim on the drive – this is what I am most worried about is Liv picking up fouls when others allow dribble penetration. Can’t finish through contact. Tries to avoid it actually which throws her off balance like she did on the baseline drive. It is what it is.

I am encouraged by her outside shot, which will help open the middle for post-ups by AE and AG and cutters as well. I wonder if top teams will just give her that outside shot and see if she is hitting them or not. AE or AG posting up against the second big with no help will be a great advantage. Maybe this is how we get the most out of Liv on the offensive end. Can she make the good pass into to the post when the passing lanes are smaller due to bigger post players?

AG – nice offensive board to get the 3 from PB. Later involved in a steal. Plays only two minutes and still makes plays.

MM – I continue to be impressed with how quickly she can move her feet. She isn’t always focused on defense and, as a result, can be late on her movement. But when she is locked in, she is really good. Has a knack for drawing the charge. Seems to enjoy that. Great work in the offensive glass but can she do this against top level teams with size?

 

[eebmg]

Saw a nice recap on SVP: Sports Center on the UConn / StJ game. Very complementary of Paige showing a variety of 3's and dimes although they did not include her no look change of direction pass to Aaliyah into the post.

Brings up the cool Stat. Only 2 Underclassman at UConn with 30+pts 5+assists. DT in 2002 and KLS in 2017

 

[mbr33ct]

UCONN did look good tonight.....but, you have to remember St. John's record is 2-8 in the Little East.

I know @Plebe does not like caveat's such as "not best team" , referencing whether NC State should be ranked #1 or not (another thread)...here's another caveat I dislike, "you have to remember [add team here] record is 2-8 in the Little East" (...or similar language).

 

[veryolddog]

I liked the game. Everyone played well. Geno said he was pleased. So I am pleased. Then I watched "The Kingdom of Heaven".

 

[HuskyNan]

My cents on the SJ game (guard focus):

Overall we were good switching on defense. A little slow on a couple close-outs. . I thought our half -court defense was a bit of a hit and miss. We got a lot of turnovers but SJ shot a high percentage against us too. Take away some of the 25-30 turnovers SJ had and it might have been different. Of course you can’t do that but, I think it shows we are still a work in progress on half-court defense.

This is what you might get with PB playing some 2G or at least having NM in the game with better passing than CW. I thought SJ defense was really bad so I take some of this with a grain of salt.

PB – on fire. Mostly getting anything she wants via screens and creating space. Another game where she disrupts passing lanes. I hope she can do this against SC and the other top teams. I think she will now be a target to defend the most by top teams and not just another option. Can she still be effective against the opposing team’s added attention and best defender. The good news is that now the lesser defender will need to deal with CW and/or EW, making them even better options. PB makes everybody better.

NM can’t keep Drake in front of her. Went for the swipe which caused her to lose a step and get the 2nd foul. Good passing – once in the lane and another on a skip pass – not many players would have seen that or made that pass, and then she hits PB perfectly in stride for the 3 pointer.

Later some nice defense on Correa. Would have had 2 assists to AE- one on an excellent drive and kick out to AE for the foul line miss and another on the break, which AE missed also. Has another nice assist to EW on a nice pass in transition but EW missed. Made a couple nice steals and is really aggressive pushing the ball up court. Has no fear. Has excellent court vision. She can really pass the ball.

If we didn’t have PB, NM would be talked about a lot more. Defense was better later on - moving her feet better. Seems to start off slow defensively and then gets better as the game goes on. Continues to show her adaptivity. Good shooting. I thought her best shot was the last 3pter she made – lots of rotation and arc on the shot. She felt it.

She has made huge strides. I now expect this from her, at least against weak competition. Would have been close to a double double if players hit the bunnies she provided the. This from a freshman in her 10th or 11th game. Now think about that for a minute! Now what can she do against elite level teams??

Nika was playing on a bum ankle. It had to affect her lateral movement and ability to adjust to quick movements

 

[jabstep]

The freshmen have grasped the offense in my estimation. Can it can better of course. Paige is very comfortable now on the screen and three and the screen and elbow jumper and the screen and roll. If done well very hard to stop. Seems like Liv kinda likes playing outside hitting cutter and shooting three's. I think that is where she will play in the WNBA. Edwards on the other hand loves playing inside and the roll with Paige is like the way she played in HS with her center. The same way Sabrina played with her bigs. Easy peasy. Nika has the vision of a good PG. I can imagine her in 3 years from now playing with Paige and Azzi. Wow, UConn will be bad for Women's Basketball again. The only rant for the day I only saw bits and pieces of the in game due to Fox Sports. It has been bad all season but yesterday it was all game long. BOOOOO

 

[HopJim]

In his presser tonight he said Nika looks better with every passing game and she has "so much confidence" in her shot.

For those of us that commented a year ago, "who is Muhl and why did Geno recruit her," kuddos to Geno. While she has trouble keeping her defender in front of her and turns the ball over more than desired, her passing has been good and she plays with great energy. Good sub to have when we needed one.

 

[DEpup]

Correa is very, very good. I was super impressed.

Yes. She is a great scorer. The rest of her stat sheet was basically empty. I'd need to see her impact the game in more ways before saying she is very very good.

 

[my2cents]

"Cents" or ".02" are not me, I am the official two cent.
I always wonder if people are being sarcastic when they write things like, Paige was moving forward on her shot, or her foul shooting was off, things like that....she is a human being and perfection in sport is unattainable, so to point out silly little things, wastes all of our time in here. winning by 32 points and criticizing our defense? C'mon man.
Even Megan Culmo during the game , after a Paige miss said she looked un-confident, and at the time Piage was something like 9-12....

 

[RockyMTblue2]

For those of us that commented a year ago, "who is Muhl and why did Geno recruit her," kuddos to Geno. While she has trouble keeping her defender in front of her and turns the ball over more than desired, her passing has been good and she plays with great energy. Good sub to have when we needed one.

I see what you did there @HopJim, but I think Geno has hopes and plans that extend beyond your vision for her.