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St. John's Post Game Thread

Duke losing helps with the race for the #1 seed in the East. If UConn keeps winning, it's there for the taking
 
sdglast said:
I think everyone is rooting for Solo, he is a good kid, but we have to face facts....All he has shown he can do is shoot the 3. Not a good ball handler, not a great passer, bad rebounder, struggles to defend, and refuses to put the ball on the deck and attack the rim. He's an average player right now and plays poorly in big games. He needs to get tougher and play tougher.
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I think he’s actually improved on a number of fronts.

Unfortunately, the three pointer has abandoned him. If he were merely shooting at the same rate as last season, he’d be average just under 18ppg and the conversation around him would be entirely different.
 
Fishy said:
I think if we win the BET, and assuming nothing stupid happens, we get the one seed.
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It seems the tournament committee predetermines the #1 seeds prior to Sat finals. This means its important to get to BET final and need to beat SJU on 2-25. Not losing from now would be my path of choice.
 
jdb50 said:
Hurley is such a creature of habit that it winds up being a negative at times. Your point about when to use the first half timeout was spot on. Dan usually uses it under 2 minutes. He loves his mass substitutions and struggles to mix in subs with the starters. I like Reibe withe the other starters but he had those 2 early first half fouls and we had way more Tarris who was not playing well.
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Good point. Maybe too much time obsessed with the refs to think about other combinations/and tactics including personnel changes. He made a comment to a reporter in the aftergame presser about getting fined for commenting on officials. His response was "would you like to pay the fine if I do?"

He is trying to stand up for his team so I get that but when all of your vision is staring at refs, making faces and other antics you are preoccupied with that while the game is going on. He actually was a lot more calm last night. The enemy is the opposing team and staff, not the refs.

BTW, leave it to St John's to bring in those two air assisted distractions painted red normally used for street advertising (usually like for something such as car washes or tax return preparation). That is over the top when trying to shoot free throws. I hope the league does something about that.
 
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Tyler2Rings said:
No way. I've never been a huge fan of Gus but last night was noticably bad. Wondering who an out of bounds was off when the call was a foul, saying Tarris had 3 fouls when it was 2, saying Alex had fouled out as he inbounds it. We didn't even get Raf who usually makes it tolerable
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Fanta sounds like a HS announcer. The voice, the corny/cliched lines. It’s painful. Donny, right now, is still talking about Seattle and himself to any person who will listen.

Gus is awful. Now. He was very good back in the day, imo.
 
WeAreUCONN said:
We aren’t a top 5 team. Can’t rebound, can’t hit free throws, can’t defend, can’t beat pressure. Smith was unplayable forcing Silas to get worn down by the end. We shot well but were terrible at everything else. The elite 8 is the ceiling for the team.
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Time for you to go back to your fav team Dook. Oh no! They lost to UNC tonight.
 
DogMania said:
Might already been posted, but we had two inbounding turnovers, and I think they were both by Demary. One was on our defensive end of the court and the other was on the offensive end of the court, both from the baseline.
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The turnover near the end of the game Silas grabbed the ball after the St Johns make and when he looked to inbound none of our players ran to him. It was like the team had a brainfart. He had almost no option to inbound to.
 
Fishy said:
Ball can be too sticky with Malachi. It is what it is. He's our backup point guard and not responsible for what happened last night.

We do some fundamentally dumb stuff. The turnover rate is an issue. Fouls are a huge issue - forget complaining about the refs. We've taken 100 fewer free throws this year than our opponents which I am guessing in an outlier among top ten teams. (I have not checked.) It's not that the refs hate us, it's that we foul way, way too much. If you think the teams were playing are not being called often enough, I promise you that we're committing more than we're called for as well.

I'd like to see Hurley split up the AK-Ball-Braylon trio more often. Throw Ball into the mix with Malachi, etc., while Stewart gets a little more time with AK and Braylon.
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This makes a ton of sense for 2 reasons:
1) Ball is not competing with Braylon for open shots - different lines
2) Ball looks like he is capable of breaking the press and bringing the ball up the court when Malachi is pressured. Silas doesn't need such help but maybe Smitty does.

ok a third reason is Stewie brings some size and athleticism to the starting lineup.
 
TheShot1990 said:
This makes a ton of sense for 2 reasons:
1) Ball is not competing with Braylon for open shots - different lines
2) Ball looks like he is capable of breaking the press and bringing the ball up the court when Malachi is pressured. Silas doesn't need such help but maybe Smitty does.

ok a third reason is Stewie brings some size and athleticism to the starting lineup.
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I gotta fetch it, but @zls44 sent me a link last night to a metric that essentially confirms what I was thinking....we're really, really efficient when Stewie is in the lineup with one of those two, particularly Braylon. The AK, SD, TR, Braylon and Stewie rotation is the most efficient in the entire country.
 
JBK said:
Great recap. What is Rees doing with the small gesture. You fired up Zuby. Not sure that was too smart
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I don't think the gesture was directed at Zuby. I like seeing Reed show some competitive fire. Zuby outplayed him down the stretch but all in all it wasn't a bad game for Reed. I wish Reed had stayed aggressive and tried to get Zuby in foul trouble. That would have helped down the stretch. Unfortunately it was the other way around.
 
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KingAG said:
We didn’t full court press them…
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Fair point. But if UConn made them pay for their pressing, they would have stopped. Our inability to do that is a problem. Did you see Pitino's comments in the Dom Amore article about the cumulative affect of the press? Only 2 turnovers resulted but it affected rebounding and passing late in the game (and free throws). Do you think Demary misses those free throws late if he was able to play less than 36 minutes?
 
Fishy said:
I gotta fetch it, but @zls44 sent me a link last night to a metric that essentially confirms what I was thinking....we're really, really efficient when Stewie is in the lineup with one of those two, particularly Braylon. The AK, SD, TR, Braylon and Stewie rotation is the most efficient in the entire country.
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Really feeling like you guys are onto something here. I don't study it like you guys do, but it sure makes sense. Think Malachi if handled right
 
Donyell 360 said:
I don't think the gesture was directed at Zuby. I like seeing Reed show some competitive fire. Zuby outplayed him down the stretch but all in all it wasn't a bad game for Reed. I wish Reed had stayed aggressive and tried to get Zuby in foul trouble. That would have helped down the stretch. Unfortunately it was the other way around.
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Yeah, other than getting in foul trouble I actually think he defended Zuby really well. Zuby might be shorter but he's built like a freight train. Reed had 3 blocks and I think at least 2 of them were against Zuby. Maybe all 3.
 
Donyell 360 said:
I don't think the gesture was directed at Zuby. I like seeing Reed show some competitive fire. Zuby outplayed him down the stretch but all in all it wasn't a bad game for Reed. I wish Reed had stayed aggressive and tried to get Zuby in foul trouble. That would have helped down the stretch. Unfortunately it was the other way around.
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I said this in another thread, but I like that he had some swagger, shows there’s a fire in the tank that I didn’t expect.
 
Xavier taking St John's to OT makes this loss sting a little more.
 
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Jmark212 said:
St Johns just took 41 free throws to 17 for Xavier. It’s going to be impossible for anyone to beat them if they continually get protected by the refs like this.
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Why do they protect them? I just don’t understand that.
 
AllHusky said:
Why do they protect them? I just don’t understand that.
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Even the ST J’s fans admit it:

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Jmark212 said:
St Johns just took 41 free throws to 17 for Xavier. It’s going to be impossible for anyone to beat them if they continually get protected by the refs like this.
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They'll get their wake up call in the tourney when they play non-conf teams again, sucks for the teams in conference that have to deal with this now though
 
Jmark212 said:
St Johns just took 41 free throws to 17 for Xavier. It’s going to be impossible for anyone to beat them if they continually get protected by the refs like this.
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It's almost like it's their style of play...

Are you people conspiracy theorists or just ignorant about basketball? (Impossible to beat them) they have 5 losses you idiot.
 
Huskie5life said:
It's almost like it's their style of play...

Are you people conspiracy theorists or just ignorant about basketball? (Impossible to beat them) they have 5 losses you idiot.
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In conference. I made that pretty clear. Their own fans were claiming the refs were protecting them tonight but go on. Reading comprehension is tough for some I see.
 
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Donyell 360 said:
Fair point. But if UConn made them pay for their pressing, they would have stopped. Our inability to do that is a problem. Did you see Pitino's comments in the Dom Amore article about the cumulative affect of the press? Only 2 turnovers resulted but it affected rebounding and passing late in the game (and free throws). Do you think Demary misses those free throws late if he was able to play less than
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Demary used a lot of energy getting inbounds.
 
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I give Silas credit in his Butler pre-game media availability interview for "manning up" and taking responsibility for his St J game performance. Man in the mirror-Be accountable and learn from your mistakes. Tough kid and one of our leaders. Lessons learned.
 
Fishy said:
I gotta fetch it, but @zls44 sent me a link last night to a metric that essentially confirms what I was thinking....we're really, really efficient when Stewie is in the lineup with one of those two, particularly Braylon. The AK, SD, TR, Braylon and Stewie rotation is the most efficient in the entire country.
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It’s efficient because Stewart does the little things and makes extra passes. We can hide his defensive woes. Ball tends to look to shoot too much and doesn’t play defense. Having two inept defenders or more (Ross, Smith, Reibe, Ball, or Stew) on the court at the same time spells trouble.
 
Umami Zen said:
I give Silas credit in his Butler pre-game media availability interview for "manning up" and taking responsibility for his St J game performance. Man in the mirror-Be accountable and learn from your mistakes. Tough kid and one of our leaders. Lessons learned.
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We also wouldn't even been close if not for Silas play before the end. He was exhausted mentally and physically. It would be nice if we had a reliable backup to give him some rest. Presently we don't.
 
jdb50 said:
The turnover near the end of the game Silas grabbed the ball after the St Johns make and when he looked to inbound none of our players ran to him. It was like the team had a brainfart. He had almost no option to inbound to.
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This is something that happens fairly often with the Huskies. We re not ready to inbound the ball at the start of the five seconds.
 
On drives near the hoop St Johns bumps are OK and other teams get called for fouls. It was obvious last night vs Xavier. Automatic whistle late in the game when St Johns drove the ball. Xavier also had no issues inbounding which we are now known for until Hurley and the rest of the highly paid coaches on the bench fix.
 
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