St. John's Post Game Thread

[navery12]

From my unsophisticated and casual algorithm-math nerd point of view the biggest head scratcher I get from this chart is how any player, never mind two players, can receive a higher defensive rating in this game than Castle.

Seems to be an underweighting of neutralizing opponents best players and/or opponents players that could have the greatest offensive impact against us.

It would be interesting to see a similar chart for the Providence game. The impact Stephon had on Carter was Ricky Moore like.

Here's the chart for Providence

 

[aceboon]

We better see weekly conference awards for Castle,Newton and Spencer. They went 2-0 this past week and each put up big numbers.

Castle averaged 20.5 pts 4 rebs 1.5 assists 1steal
Newton averaged 17pts 10.5 rebs 5 assists 1steal
Spencer averaged 19 pts. 6 rebs 2 assists 1.5 steals 1 block

Castle will get Freshman of the week again but I’m hoping they recognize him with Player of the week also.

you should take a look at what Quincy Olivari averaged in 2 games this past week

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[ibleedhuskyblue]

you should take a look at what Quincy Olivari averaged in 2 games this past week

I think it has to be pointed out that one of those games was DePaul, and the other was 23 vs. STJ, which is basically what Cam and Steph had twice in 2 real non-DePaul games.

But i'm with you.....you score 43 against anyone in conference (even DePaul), you should win that week.

 

[MuchoDogYears]

I wouldn’t mind the 7-footer playing at that really smart school in New Haven. Kid’s got a nice inside-outside game. Averages 15 & 10, shoots 42% on 3s.

And only a soph

 

[dennismenace]

The best play Spencer made was when we were up 10 with about 3 minutes left.

He took a late-shot-clock 3, missed it short, but followed his shot and rebounded his own miss. Instead of rushing a putback, he pulled it back out, made sure we used the entire 20 extra seconds, then bamboozled his defender into biting on a fake to draw a foul in the lane as the shot clock expired. That slammed the door right there, and it was all due to his composure, craftiness, and IQ.

Amen to that. I love that word craftiness. And he sure knows how to use that attribute. I can't remember anyone as crafty as him. What an acquisition.

 

[HooperScooper]

Anyone have a link for Pitino’s post game presser?

I can only find this 3 minute clip. I guess nobody cares much about what he says.

St. John’s coach Rick Pitino 'worried' about his team after 77-64 loss to UConn

In this St. John's postgame news conference, head coach Rick Pitino admitted after losing to UConn for the second straight time, "they're better than us."

sny.tv

 

[AllHusky]

Are you sure you want to use 1956 as an inflection point?

During the years leading up to that, Frank McGuire did a good enough job to a) bring them to their first final four (they've only made it one other time) and b) get plu led by UNC (who he led to a title a couple years later).

I thought McGuire was South Carolina??

 

[AllHusky]

I thought McGuire was South Carolina??

Both! Hard to believe a basketball coach would leave unc for usc in this day and age!!

 

[AllHusky]

From my unsophisticated and casual algorithm-math nerd point of view the biggest head scratcher I get from this chart is how any player, never mind two players, can receive a higher defensive rating in this game than Castle.

Seems to be an underweighting of neutralizing opponents best players and/or opponents players that could have the greatest offensive impact against us.

It would be interesting to see a similar chart for the Providence game. The impact Stephon had on Carter was Ricky Moore like.

Glad you brought up Ricky. Solo needs to go to Ricky Moore lockdown camp this summer!!

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Both! Hard to believe a basketball coach would leave unc for usc in this day and age!!

He left UNC for the NBA. After he lost the NBA job, South Carolina jumped on him.

 

[ctchamps]

Glad you brought up Ricky. Solo needs to go to Ricky Moore lockdown camp this summer!!

How about a shout out to Hassan and Cam. Reminded me of Bazz and Boat with all the ball disruptions and steals.

 

[freescooter]

Are you sure you want to use 1956 as an inflection point?

During the years leading up to that, Frank McGuire did a good enough job to a) bring them to their first final four (they've only made it one other time) and b) get plu led by UNC (who he led to a title a couple years later).

Your right. He did. But keep in mind the Final Four of that era wasn’t the final four of today. Teams would turn down the NCAA to play in the NIT which was more prestigious.

The reason I picked 1956 is that St John’s had success with McGuire, then Lapchick, who left to go to coach the Knicks. His assistant took over but wasn’t up to the job and the Johnnies fell off precipitously. Multiple losing seasons in succession (Lapchick had exactly 1 in his 2 stints in Queens). He came back in 1956 and turned the program around again. He was followed by Lou Carnesseca. In this day and age it is unbelievable, and it seems that it can’t be true, but I read that Lapchick retired when he reached 65 because St John’s had a rule requiring all non-religious to retire at 65. He tried to get them to waive the rule but they wouldn’t. Now they hire a guy who is in his 70s.

 

[dennismenace]

I can only find this 3 minute clip. I guess nobody cares much about what he says.

St. John’s coach Rick Pitino 'worried' about his team after 77-64 loss to UConn

In this St. John's postgame news conference, head coach Rick Pitino admitted after losing to UConn for the second straight time, "they're better than us."

sny.tv

This is sandbagging by Pitino. I remember Boeheim talking about JC and Uconn like they came down from heaven. Never ever give an opponent something to put up on the locker room bulletin board.
This comment is to make Uconn overconfident. I can't think of anyone more committed to doing whatever it takes to win. They don't call him Slick Rick for nothing. He is fanatical which is probably why he is HOF. To be honest I don't like to see him on the sidelines, and I guess that is a backhanded compliment.

 

[jibsey]

This is sandbagging by Pitino. I remember Boeheim talking about JC and Uconn like they came down from heaven. Never ever give an opponent something to put up on the locker room bulletin board.
This comment is to make Uconn overconfident. I can't think of anyone more committed to doing whatever it takes to win. They don't call him Slick Rick for nothing. He is fanatical which is probably why he is HOF. To be honest I don't like to see him on the sidelines, and I guess that is a backhanded compliment.

He doesn’t have tourney spot clinched yet so yeah he’s worried.