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St. John's Post Game Thread

auror said:
Castle, Spencer, and Newton great. Diarra the best defender in the game and worst offensive player lol. Clingan good on both sides of the ball, but less impact due to less minutes.
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I didn't need a fancy chart to tell me that Castle, Spencer, and Newton won us this game lol
 
Polonius said:
I was there, and it was interesting when Pitino came up on the big screen with a promo asking fans to support their NIL program. Basically, if you want to win, pony up. At the end he went back into his coffin and closed the lid, as lightning flashed.
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Couldn't hear anything he was saying as my section booed loudly during that promo clip
 
At the risk of getting hate from some, DC should stick around one more year. His offensive game is rudimentary, and at the next level he would be a bench warmer. By my count this is the third consecutive game of dumb fouls defensively. Love the kid. Just tired of seeing UConn stars become bench warmers in the NBA
 
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Watched highlights:

big game at the Garden, #5 scores our first 5 points, getting us going. He ain't a freshman any more

Johnson doesn't know how or can't use his body properly. Moving screen(no foul) and then can't stand his ground, foul called. These are light bulb skills, if and when he can do them effectively, it changes us. Clingan different but the same. Learn to use your body!!
 
storrsroars said:
I can understand the sentiment, but also disagree to a point. We didn't win the league, we didn't win the BET, and it wasn't really until the NCAAs when last year's team became ridiculously awesome. This squad has the opportunity to do all of that, but they've got a pretty big challenge to be as ridiculously awesome as Sanogo/AJ/Hawk & co. were in the NCAAs.
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Accomplishment doesn't mean better team. Perhaps the January swoon was partially attributed to the coaching staff not changing AJ's offense quicker.

My reservation with this team is the ability to have a reliable center like Adama who can avoid foul trouble and who can make FT's at a high percentage. Donovan's ceiling is literally and figuratively higher than Adama's as he has shown against Xavier. But it will be necessary for him to do it with more consistency.
 
freescooter said:
Good grief we are not going to have a rivalry with St John’s or Seton Hall or any other 1957 wannabe.
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"1957 wannabe"?
Your self-owning is much better than anything I can do. I bow down to you.
Tenspro2002 said:
I didn't need a fancy chart to tell me that Castle, Spencer, and Newton won us this game lol
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It's still a nice chart though, isn't it?
 
ctchamps said:
Accomplishment doesn't mean better team. Perhaps the January swoon was partially attributed to the coaching staff not changing AJ's offense quicker.

My reservation with this team is the ability to have a reliable center like Adama who can avoid foul trouble and who can make FT's at a high percentage. Donovan's ceiling is literally and figuratively higher than Adama's as he has shown against Xavier. But it will be necessary for him to do it with more consistency.
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With Stephon’s development the team has very few weaknesses. They can win any game without Donovan scoring but against the best teams we need him on the court for 25 minutes. He has to figure out a way to make that happen. Our defense is literally in another league when he is in the game. And that will be a difference maker in a game against a quality opponent.
 
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Hans Sprungfeld said:
"1957 wannabe"?
Your self-owning is much better than anything I can do. I bow down to you.

It's still a nice chart though, isn't it?
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Sorry, 1956. That’s when Lapchick returned to St John’s and brought them back to a power again.

Did you know there was college basketball played before 2014? Bet that’s news to you.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
And then there's the 4 n 5!!!
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Yeah easy to forget AK so certainly 1,2,3,4,and 5 is still working on getting there again. Please Donovan give us 25 minutes a game and we are very difficult to beat with you on the floor for that many minutes per game. Just figure out a way to stay on floor for 25 minutes.
 
I record all new games and since I was distracted yesterday during the second half I just watched the entire second half. They are indeed tough tenacious and play as a team. Good stuff.
 
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freescooter said:
Sorry, 1956. That’s when Lapchick returned to St John’s and brought them back to [a] power again.
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I'll forgive your stray article bracketed above, and acknowledge your willingness to offer a correction to 1956.
freescooter said:
Did you know there was college basketball played before 2014? Bet that’s news to you.
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You already fell flat on your face a year ago when you asserted that there were 50 D-1 head coaches better than Dan Hurley, and did not produce or acknowledge not producing your list when I challenged you on this.

Here's a simpler homework assignment for 2024:

1) Read my typically tiresome treatise on why I don't do sports (or really other) betting, and get comfortable with what I wrote.
2) Yes, please, by all means bet me that it's news to me that there was college basketball played before 2014. I'll even let you back date to include autumn 2013. Name the stakes.

I'll even let you say you're sorry, Joe Lapchick notwithstanding, and that you meant to write "1987," which is 30 years later. AND, you meant 30 years earlier, with the "(1983-)84" season as the time marker for your bet. I'll still take it.

I also bet you hide from these challenges.

But just in case you want to play things out, you can pick the charitable concern to which your losing wager will go, and you can claim donor recognition and any applicable/favorable tax-deduction for your contribution.
Am I missing anything?
 
freescooter said:
Sorry, 1956. That’s when Lapchick returned to St John’s and brought them back to a power again.

Did you know there was college basketball played before 2014? Bet that’s news to you.
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Are you sure you want to use 1956 as an inflection point?

During the years leading up to that, Frank McGuire did a good enough job to a) bring them to their first final four (they've only made it one other time) and b) get plu led by UNC (who he led to a title a couple years later).
 
Bomber36 said:
When he makes a bad play, it’s resoundingly bad. We notice it more. Plus we depend on him so much, it sticks out like a sore thumb.
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He just seems to sometimes favor the highlight reel play over simple and safe. Maybe it's just about having fun... The head scratchers do stick in memory but he always ends up with a healthy stat line.
 
We better see weekly conference awards for Castle,Newton and Spencer. They went 2-0 this past week and each put up big numbers.

Castle averaged 20.5 pts 4 rebs 1.5 assists 1steal
Newton averaged 17pts 10.5 rebs 5 assists 1steal
Spencer averaged 19 pts. 6 rebs 2 assists 1.5 steals 1 block

Castle will get Freshman of the week again but I’m hoping they recognize him with Player of the week also.
 
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CardiacAndre7 said:
Steph guarding Soriano for those few mins was really cool to see. He got big bodied a bit, but man, this kid steps up to take responsibility and does it without hesitation. Love that.
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Steph is a 19 year old PG. Soriano is a 24 year old C. And Steph took that challenge, this kid is crazy
 
El Obrero said:
Clingan’s current offensive struggles are completely generated by Big East conference play. He will be a monster in the tournament. MOP of the final four. Book it.
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Clingan (I assume) can and should be a dominating offensive player with his size. If Sanogo was so effective at 6’9, think what he could have done at Clingan’s size! Donovan likely won’t develop Sanogo’s moves, but he should be able to master a few basic skills to help on offensive end. He’s great as a deterrant and rebounder, and even though the team is winning without him scoring a lot each game, imagine how unbeatable UConn would be if he could score 15-20 points a game.
 
Mister P said:
We better see weekly conference awards for Castle,Newton and Spencer. They went 2-0 this past week and each put up big numbers.

Castle averaged 20.5 pts 4 rebs 1.5 assists 1steal
Newton averaged 17pts 10.5 rebs 5 assists 1steal
Spencer averaged 19 pts. 6 rebs 2 assists 1.5 steals 1 block

Castle will get Freshman of the week again but I’m hoping they recognize him with Player of the week also.
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Olivari will win POTW. Castle will be honor roll. Spencer will be snubbed again.
 
auror said:
Castle, Spencer, and Newton great. Diarra the best defender in the game and worst offensive player lol. Clingan good on both sides of the ball, but less impact due to less minutes.
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From my unsophisticated and casual algorithm-math nerd point of view the biggest head scratcher I get from this chart is how any player, never mind two players, can receive a higher defensive rating in this game than Castle.

Seems to be an underweighting of neutralizing opponents best players and/or opponents players that could have the greatest offensive impact against us.

It would be interesting to see a similar chart for the Providence game. The impact Stephon had on Carter was Ricky Moore like.
 
auror said:
Olivari will win POTW. Castle will be honor roll. Spencer will be snubbed again.
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Yep.
I hadn’t seen his stat line against Depaul until just now. But, as a homer counterpoint, his 43 points came in him playing 36 minutes in a 25 point victory over a crappy DePaul team. Castles stats were done in more meaningful games.
But I agree, Olivari will get the award based on his DePaul stat line.
 
REB1094 said:
Steph is a 19 year old PG. Soriano is a 24 year old C. And Steph took that challenge, this kid is crazy
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Magic vs Sixers game six NBA Finals his rookie season when Kareem was out.
 
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