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RegisteredUconn said:
Really like Mechelle. A lot. But WOW, talk about the single bullet item justification. Item #1: SC hasn't lost. End of justification.
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USC had enough subjective rep to start the season at #2, and they haven't lost. So I think it's a valid position.

But - Mechelle herself says, "No one is questioning whether the Huskies are good enough to win No. 10. We already know they are. They're the favorites for that, regardless of ranking." So apparently her 'ranking' philosophy allows for a #2 who she feels would beat her #1. This again begs the question of whether she would vote this way if UCONN & USC weren't scheduled to play later in the season.
 
Yeah, but again, I'm not sure anyone is thinking that any of the poll voters are ever selecting on who they think will win the Tourney. As with the UConn men, a team can be floundering around now but still be in the back of everyone's mind as at least one of the favorites for April, just based on recent past history.

I guess it's possible that a once-defeated UConn was ranked behind undefeated USCar but ahead of then undefeated Texas last week because of that "upcoming game" factor, but I think it's more that Texas just started further down the food chain in the rankings at the beginning of the season and it seemed too much of a stretch to ever put them and their horrible SOS ahead of UConn.
 
j66kicker said:
USC had enough subjective rep to start the season at #2, and they haven't lost. So I think it's a valid position.

But - Mechelle herself says, "No one is questioning whether the Huskies are good enough to win No. 10. We already know they are. They're the favorites for that, regardless of ranking." So apparently her 'ranking' philosophy allows for a #2 who she feels would beat her #1. This again begs the question of whether she would vote this way if UCONN & USC weren't scheduled to play later in the season.
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If preseason rep is important enough to be considered a factor in a team's ranking then surely team performance thus far in the season should also be considered, no? Poof, there goes the "They should be #1 because they're undefeated" argument.
 
RegisteredUconn said:
If preseason rep is important enough to be considered a factor in a team's ranking then surely team performance thus far in the season should also be considered, no? Poof, there goes the "They should be #1 because they're undefeated" argument.
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Not trying to justify anything - that's just how it works. UCONN had enough preseason rep to start out the season at #1. If rankings are important and they wanted to stay there, then it's very simple and straightforward - don't lose.
 
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DobbsRover2 said:
Yeah, but again, I'm not sure anyone is thinking that any of the poll voters are ever selecting on who they think will win the Tourney. As with the UConn men, a team can be floundering around now but still be in the back of everyone's mind as at least one of the favorites for April, just based on recent past history.

I guess it's possible that a once-defeated UConn was ranked behind undefeated USCar but ahead of then undefeated Texas last week because of that "upcoming game" factor, but I think it's more that Texas just started further down the food chain in the rankings at the beginning of the season and it seemed too much of a stretch to ever put them and their horrible SOS ahead of UConn.
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Back to a lack of criteria. No guidance for voters. Make up your own measurement and use it. 35 voters, 35 different standards.
 
j66kicker said:
Not trying to justify anything - that's just how it works. UCONN had enough preseason rep to start out the season at #1. If rankings are important and they wanted to stay there, then it's very simple and straightforward - don't lose.
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Princeton hasn't lost.
 
Are the polls supposed to capture who are the best teams or the teams with the best records? They aren't the same things.
 
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