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whaler11 said:
I can find the money for lacrosse by the end of this post...

Drop baseball, it's an absolute waste of resources for schools in the Northeast.
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Somebody needs to just punch you in the face - baseball is what separates us from the savages. (e.g. Syracuse)

I have no idea if UConn is planning to upgrade in lacrosse and I really don't even know anything about lacrosse.

But I like the idea -

1) I'm guessing that it would catch on with students.

2) It seems like a sports that pays off big with alumni donations.

If we're in a real conference, it's probably a no-brainer. But with our revenue sliding in Aresco's Folly, not sure how we get some of these things done.
 
Fishy said:
If we're in a real conference, it's probably a no-brainer. But with our revenue sliding in Aresco's Folly, not sure how we get some of these things done.
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As we are an associate member of the Big East for Woman's Lax, I would think the men's team would end up there.

Cue 'football should go independent' crew .... ;)
 
NYT:
As Lacrosse Rises, Its Final Four Falls Fast

Steve Stenersen, the executive director of US Lacrosse — the national governing body that has invested more than $170 million in the sport since 1998 — spoke bullishly about lacrosse’s health during a telephone interview this week, noting that the number of people participating has tripled since 2000 to more than 770,000. According to statistics released this month by the Sports and Fitness Industry Association, lacrosse and gymnastics are the only team sports to show growth among participants between ages 6 and 17 over the last five years.

“We’re certainly pleased that our sport continues to buck a bit of that trend,” Stenersen said. “We’re still small, relatively speaking. But we’re thrilled.”

The rate of growth in total participation has slowed considerably, from a peak of 16.7 percent in 2004 to 3.5 percent in 2014, but Stenersen said that was the byproduct of a larger base. Lacrosse continues to spread across the country, rapidly gaining popularity in states like California, Oregon, Washington and Florida.

Yet the shrinking buzz for the national title weekend has become the elephant in the room for the N.C.A.A. After packing more than 123,000 fans over three days in Baltimore in 2007, when the games returned to M&T Bank Stadium last year, a total of 78,234 fans passed through the turnstiles, a drop of more than 36 percent.

“The trend is disappointing,” said Terence Foy, editor in chief of Inside Lacrosse magazine. “Because, for so long, attendance at the Final Four was seen as such a symbol of growth and progress, as well as validation.”

Now, Foy said, there are other signs that validate lacrosse’s growth, but the attendance numbers keep sliding.
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We're going to need gymnastics, wrestling, etc, to keep up with Big Ten schools. Looooooong way to go.
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
The NCAA got greedy just as it did with soccer in the early 2000's when UConn won the men's title in front of a 1/4 full stadium in Charlotte. If the lax title was held down the river at PPL Park (18,000) instead of Lincoln Field (68,500) this year, it would have made sense.
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Its a basic infrastructure problem.

They want the lax FF to be at a neutral site, but there aren't a whole lot of 20-30k stadiums in the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic that are truly neutral (ie not associated with a DI university, lax playing or not) sites.

They have the same problem finding regional sites for ice hockey in the Midwest that aren't campus sites in the 10k range; they're either too far isolate from the schools that end up getting sent there, or non-neutral.
 
kingdobbs said:
...but there aren't a whole lot of 20-30k stadiums in the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic that are truly neutral (ie not associated with a DI university, lax playing or not) sites...
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There are a lot of MLS stadiums in the northeast now that would be the perfect size. Also, the Rent is in an emerging hotbed. I think that would be a perfect venue too.
 
History Geek said:
There are a lot of MLS stadiums in the northeast now that would be the perfect size. Also, the Rent is in an emerging hotbed. I think that would be a perfect venue too.
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PPL is in Chester PA, just south of Philly, and is the home pitch for the MLS Philadelphia Union. On the small size as its just 18K; but, with some temp seating (if feasible), 22K would work well for a NCAA Lax final. Red Bulls arena would not be a bad choice either as it holds 25K and is NYC metro. Navy's stadium holds 35K and I think that has been used before by the NCAA. Should DC United (MLS) ever get a stadium built, that would also be an option as it projected to be in the 20K to 30K range in DC or possibly Virginia. I agree that the Rent would make sense, too; and should UConn ever go to D1 lacrosse, I can see that. Is there enough hotel rooms in the immediate area to accommodate a major 3 day event like that?
 
They did have some great games this year in the final four. But the games would have looked much better on TV at Red Bull Arena than at the Linc.
 
Butch said:
We're going to need gymnastics, wrestling, etc, to keep up with Big Ten schools. Looooooong way to go.
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Nah they're already really good at those things.. they don't need us... but the B1G only has 6 Lacrosse schools.
 
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Reality check for Somers in the Class S tournament. Lost to eventual Class S champ St. Joseph in the state tournament 17-4 ... who lost to New Canaan in the regular season this year 17-5 ...
 
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Kgun7 said:
Reality check for Somers in the Class S tournament. Lost to eventual Class S champ St. Joseph in the state tournament 17-4 ... who lost to New Canaan in the regular season this year 17-5 ...
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That's not a reality check, that's losing one game badly. Somers has been a lacrosse power since the mid 80's when there were only a few. I saw them deliver all kinds of reality checks to big schools over the years.
 
I'm assuming UConn Men's Lax would play in the Big East as things stand today.

Big East Men's Lacrosse:
1. Denver
2. Georgetown
3. Marquette
4. Providence
5. St. John's
6. Villanova

Big East Women's Lacrosse: (currently includes UConn)
1. Cincinnati
2. Connecticut
3. Florida
4. Georgetown
5. Marquette
6. Temple
7. Vanderbilt
8. Villanova

Conference Realignment would seem to only make the B1G or ACC as possibilities other than the Big East. Here is the current breakdown of teams sponsoring lacrosse:

Big Ten Men's Lacrosse:
1. Johns Hopkins
2. Maryland
3. Michigan
4. Ohio State
5. Penn State
6. Rutgers

Big Ten Women's Lacrosse:
1. Johns Hopkins (as of 7/1/16)
2. Maryland
3. Michigan
4. Northwestern
5. Ohio State
6. Penn State
7. Rutgers


ACC Men's Lacrosse:
1. Duke
2. North Carolina
3. Notre Dame
4. Syracuse
5. Virginia

ACC Women's Lacrosse:
1. Boston College
2. Duke
3. Louisville
4. North Carolina
5. Notre Dame
6. Syracuse
7. Virginia
8. Virginia Tech
 
B1GOSU said:
I'm assuming UConn Men's Lax would play in the Big East as things stand today.

Big East Men's Lacrosse:
1. Denver
2. Georgetown
3. Marquette
4. Providence
5. St. John's
6. Villanova

Big East Women's Lacrosse: (currently includes UConn)
1. Cincinnati
2. Connecticut
3. Florida
4. Georgetown
5. Marquette
6. Temple
7. Vanderbilt
8. Villanova

Conference Realignment would seem to only make the B1G or ACC as possibilities other than the Big East. Here is the current breakdown of teams sponsoring lacrosse:

Big Ten Men's Lacrosse:
1. Johns Hopkins
2. Maryland
3. Michigan
4. Ohio State
5. Penn State
6. Rutgers

Big Ten Women's Lacrosse:
1. Johns Hopkins (as of 7/1/16)
2. Maryland
3. Michigan
4. Northwestern
5. Ohio State
6. Penn State
7. Rutgers


ACC Men's Lacrosse:
1. Duke
2. North Carolina
3. Notre Dame
4. Syracuse
5. Virginia

ACC Women's Lacrosse:
1. Boston College
2. Duke
3. Louisville
4. North Carolina
5. Notre Dame
6. Syracuse
7. Virginia
8. Virginia Tech
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Everyone assumes that UConn Men's LAX would land in the Big East right out of the gate if they were ever to make the jump. That would be our easiest path the schools existing relationship with the conference Women's LAX and Field Hockey, but why wouldn't UConn be a logical choice as the 7th B1G LAX school?

Sure, it's not a full membership, but it's a foot in the door at least. With Hopkins as a B1G LAX member the precedent is there for a one-sport only membership. Meanwhile, the B1G gets entry into talent-rich CT and New England.

Just a thought.
 
NYUConn said:
Everyone assumes that UConn Men's LAX would land in the Big East right out of the gate if they were ever to make the jump. That would be our easiest path the schools existing relationship with the conference Women's LAX and Field Hockey, but why wouldn't UConn be a logical choice as the 7th B1G LAX school?

Sure, it's not a full membership, but it's a foot in the door at least. With Hopkins as a B1G LAX member the precedent is there for a one-sport only membership. Meanwhile, the B1G gets entry into talent-rich CT and New England.

Just a thought.
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I'm not sure how well that precedent applies with Hopkins, since they don't have any other sports that could even play in the B1G. Lacrosse is their only D1 sport.
 
CallMeBruce said:
I'm not sure how well that precedent applies with Hopkins, since they don't have any other sports that could even play in the B1G. Lacrosse is their only D1 sport.
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And also a much bigger fish in the sport. Having JHU along with Maryland brings instant credibility to the new conference.

UConn does get you into the recruiting ground, however that doesn't seem to be an issue for the higher tier schools.
 
hexlub said:
And also a much bigger fish in the sport. Having JHU along with Maryland brings instant credibility to the new conference.

UConn does get you into the recruiting ground, however that doesn't seem to be an issue for the higher tier schools.
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All good points RE: JHU.

One thing that also jumps out at me is how can you have a 5-6 team conference in any sport? That's kind of ridiculous when you think about it. Assuming you get a home-and-home with every team, that is at most 8-10 conference games a season. As a player that would drive me nuts knowing that 1-2 bad losses during conference play could completely cost you the title.
 
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NYUConn said:
Everyone assumes that UConn Men's LAX would land in the Big East right out of the gate if they were ever to make the jump. That would be our easiest path the schools existing relationship with the conference Women's LAX and Field Hockey, but why wouldn't UConn be a logical choice as the 7th B1G LAX school?

Sure, it's not a full membership, but it's a foot in the door at least. With Hopkins as a B1G LAX member the precedent is there for a one-sport only membership. Meanwhile, the B1G gets entry into talent-rich CT and New England.

Just a thought.
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Johns Hopkins is AAU.
 
NYUConn said:
All good points RE: JHU.

One thing that also jumps out at me is how can you have a 5-6 team conference in any sport? That's kind of ridiculous when you think about it. Assuming you get a home-and-home with every team, that is at most 8-10 conference games a season. As a player that would drive me nuts knowing that 1-2 bad losses during conference play could completely cost you the title.
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15 game schedule in regular season, too.
Just gotta get in the show, though.
 
All lacrosse conferences are smaller than normal conferences. Six-Eight teams is standard. America East has seven, Ivy has seven, MAAC has seven, Northeast has seven, Patriot has nine, CAA has six, Atlantic Sun has eight. That's all of D1 Men's Lax right there minus the Big East, ACC and Big Ten teams mentioned above.
 
B1GOSU said:
I'm assuming UConn Men's Lax would play in the Big East as things stand today.

Big East Men's Lacrosse:
1. Denver
2. Georgetown
3. Marquette
4. Providence
5. St. John's
6. Villanova

Big East Women's Lacrosse: (currently includes UConn)
1. Cincinnati
2. Connecticut
3. Florida
4. Georgetown
5. Marquette
6. Temple
7. Vanderbilt
8. Villanova

Conference Realignment would seem to only make the B1G or ACC as possibilities other than the Big East. Here is the current breakdown of teams sponsoring lacrosse:

Big Ten Men's Lacrosse:
1. Johns Hopkins
2. Maryland
3. Michigan
4. Ohio State
5. Penn State
6. Rutgers

Big Ten Women's Lacrosse:
1. Johns Hopkins (as of 7/1/16)
2. Maryland
3. Michigan
4. Northwestern
5. Ohio State
6. Penn State
7. Rutgers


ACC Men's Lacrosse:
1. Duke
2. North Carolina
3. Notre Dame
4. Syracuse
5. Virginia

ACC Women's Lacrosse:
1. Boston College
2. Duke
3. Louisville
4. North Carolina
5. Notre Dame
6. Syracuse
7. Virginia
8. Virginia Tech
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The Colonial is also an option for associate membership; between Towson, Delaware, Fairfield, UMass and Hofstra it's actually a very good league nationally most years.
 
Sorry I know its OT but a top Twenty 3 star NJ Ath/WR KJ Gray is announcing Thursday and i think its coming down to UConn and BC....he has RU/SU in his final 4 too but 247 crystal ball RU insiders say UConn...2 others say BC...I'll go with the RU insiders here and predict UConn. There's a NJ dot link on the recruiting page to todays article. Funny because the NJ article neglected to mention he was down at RU Sunday?? Anyways good luck. This is where HCBD can earn his bones!
 
B1GOSU said:
I'm assuming UConn Men's Lax would play in the Big East as things stand today.

Big East Men's Lacrosse:
1. Denver
2. Georgetown
3. Marquette
4. Providence
5. St. John's
6. Villanova

Big East Women's Lacrosse: (currently includes UConn)
1. Cincinnati
2. Connecticut
3. Florida
4. Georgetown
5. Marquette
6. Temple
7. Vanderbilt
8. Villanova

Conference Realignment would seem to only make the B1G or ACC as possibilities other than the Big East. Here is the current breakdown of teams sponsoring lacrosse:

Big Ten Men's Lacrosse:
1. Johns Hopkins
2. Maryland
3. Michigan
4. Ohio State
5. Penn State
6. Rutgers

Big Ten Women's Lacrosse:
1. Johns Hopkins (as of 7/1/16)
2. Maryland
3. Michigan
4. Northwestern
5. Ohio State
6. Penn State
7. Rutgers


ACC Men's Lacrosse:
1. Duke
2. North Carolina
3. Notre Dame
4. Syracuse
5. Virginia

ACC Women's Lacrosse:
1. Boston College
2. Duke
3. Louisville
4. North Carolina
5. Notre Dame
6. Syracuse
7. Virginia
8. Virginia Tech
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Not absolutely sure why you felt the need to state the obvious, but I have my suspicions.

Here was my observation of you on May 15, 2015 -

I think you're an troll. Shove your posts up your ass.

Nothing has changed - get lost
 
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