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Somewhat OT: UCF plays Penn State in Ireland for season opener

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Yeah anytime you can get your home half of a 1:1 played in a foreign country where everyone is for the other side you have be pumped
 
Srqhusky said:
We need to think along the lines of exposure and winning this game.
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We need to think about UCF getting exposure and winning the game? UCF is not getting any exposure. They are just the team going to play PSU. They might win - but trading a game in Orlando just shows you how bad this whole thing is.
 
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If we did this I would propose rebuilding Memorial. This exposure thing is so grossly overrated. You know how I want exposure? Winning.
 
whaler11 said:
We need to think about UCF getting exposure and winning the game? UCF is not getting any exposure. They are just the team going to play PSU. They might win - but trading a game in Orlando just shows you how bad this whole thing is.
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What makes you so sure Ireland has a bunch of penn state fans. They are goin to see American football. I seriously doubt penn state is a household name per there. Rugby and soccer trump American football in Ireland
 
Srqhusky said:
What makes you so sure Ireland has a bunch of penn state fans. They are goin to see American football. I seriously doubt penn state is a household name per there. Rugby and soccer trump American football in Ireland
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I doubt Ireland has any Penn State fans. I do know that in these situations the dominate brand takes over.

Let's be realistic. It's another example that the AAC exists to provide road apples to dominant programs. Having Penn State coming to Orlando was a big deal for UCF. How can anyone take them seriously when they sell that right to go be an afterthought in a game that exists for PSU to expand their boundaries.
 
So what is the payoff for the "home" team that day for them to agree to this move? A sold out game at home in Orlando would have it's own merits for both programs but especially the Knights.
 
whaler11 said:
I doubt Ireland has any Penn State fans. I do know that in these situations the dominate brand takes over.

Let's be realistic. It's another example that the AAC exists to provide road apples to dominant programs. Having Penn State coming to Orlando was a big deal for UCF. How can anyone take them seriously when they sell that right to go be an afterthought in a game that exists for PSU to expand their boundaries.
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I agree with Whaler on this one. It's pretty rotten that UCF has to blow a home game for this. Is the publicity stunt worth it? Perhaps. Is it worth losing a home game for, after you had already negotiated a big team to visit your stadium? Hell no.

For those who don't agree, tell me how you'd feel if the UConn-Michigan game this year was moved to Canada...
 
UConnDan97 said:
I agree with Whaler on this one. It's pretty rotten that UCF has to blow a home game for this. Is the publicity stunt worth it? Perhaps. Is it worth losing a home game for, after you had already negotiated a big team to visit your stadium? Hell no.

For those who don't agree, tell me how you'd feel if the UConn-Michigan game this year was moved to Canada...
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Yeah that the obvious parallel I didn't draw. UCF has looked pretty good on scheduling games. I'm sure they get a nice paycheck to take this game to Ireland - but every single mention of this game in the media is going to about PSU playing a game in Ireland.

UCF is Iron Mike Sharpe or Leaping Lanny Poffo. The jobber who is there to let Hulk Hogan or Roddy Piper have a platform.
 
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UConnDan97 said:
I agree with Whaler on this one. It's pretty rotten that UCF has to blow a home game for this. Is the publicity stunt worth it? Perhaps. Is it worth losing a home game for, after you had already negotiated a big team to visit your stadium? Hell no.

For those who don't agree, tell me how you'd feel if the UConn-Michigan game this year was moved to Canada...
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Unless the "big team" you negotiated to visit your stadium was negotiating to get out of the game.

There is a post on a UCF message board that PSU was never going to play @ UCF, was looking to buy the game out for a West Coast game and this was a happy medium to play PSU and keep SOS up. Can't validate the accuracy of that statement yet.
 
huskymedic said:
Unless the "big team" you negotiated to visit your stadium was negotiating to get out of the game.

There is a post on a UCF message board that PSU was never going to play @ UCF, was looking to buy the game out for a West Coast game and this was a happy medium to play PSU and keep SOS up. Can't validate the accuracy of that statement yet.
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That might be the case. Clear lesson learned for scheduling. If you can't negotiate a buy out that is impossible to overcome don't sign any contracts.

If UCF does it because it's the least terrible outcome that's fine. Don't try and pretend they are doing it for exposure or it's a positive in any way shape or form.
 
Penn St sure knows how to minimize their NCAA punishment. No bowl game but they get a prime(football) time, nationally covered TV event that will end up with more viewers than half of the bowl games this year. UCF needs to put it to these guys and that will generate some buzz that the new league is not just a one trick pony with it's foot already out the door.
 
huskymedic said:
Unless the "big team" you negotiated to visit your stadium was negotiating to get out of the game.

There is a post on a UCF message board that PSU was never going to play @ UCF, was looking to buy the game out for a West Coast game and this was a happy medium to play PSU and keep SOS up. Can't validate the accuracy of that statement yet.
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I'm guessing that PSU would have had the same negotiating "problem" that Michigan had; a hefty monetary penalty to back out. I think Michigan's was 2 million if I remember correctly? I wonder how much Penn State's would have been.

I've read in reports that Penn State did this to give their kids a "bowl type atmosphere". I get that, don't get me wrong. But burn one of your own damned home games, and not the opponent's. I'm surprised that UCF went for it. I would have held out for the payout (assuming there was one similar to the UConn contract)...
 
J187Money said:
Maybe UCF wanted the press.
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It's possible, but there are easier ways to achieve that. Like have O'Leary say some nonsense about beating Penn State by double digits. Free, and effective...
 
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weyuo said:
Penn St sure knows how to minimize their NCAA punishment. No bowl game but they get a prime(football) time, nationally covered TV event that will end up with more viewers than half of the bowl games this year. UCF needs to put it to these guys and that will generate some buzz that the new league is not just a one trick pony with it's foot already out the door.
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0830 (EST) on a Saturday on ESPN2 is prime football time?
 
I'm not sure what makes everyone think a game in Orlando would be a UCF home crowd. UCF will do OK, their guys get to go to Ireland too. Might help recruiting against (oh say USF)

This is a bowl trip for PSU and it's traveling horde. A horde that will be 4 years without a bowl game. I think they'll sell a few tickets.

By the way. Their AD has the travel packages already up. 13 months in advance. Anyone in Storrs taking notes?

http://psu.crokeparkclassic.com/
 
huskymedic said:
0830 (EST) on a Saturday on ESPN2 is prime football time?
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I assumed it was later in the day but still, only game in town in that time slot. If I'm looking for something to watch Saturday morning I'll be tunin
 
Don't think this is OT at all. If UCF can pull this off UConn certainly can. And Huskies need another FBS road game next year - a REAL FBS road game.
 
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UConnDan97 said:
I agree with Whaler on this one. It's pretty rotten that UCF has to blow a home game for this. Is the publicity stunt worth it? Perhaps. Is it worth losing a home game for, after you had already negotiated a big team to visit your stadium? Hell no.

For those who don't agree, tell me how you'd feel if the UConn-Michigan game this year was moved to Canada...
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Don't think anybody is disagreeing. Just saying since Ucf lost a good home game the next best thing is to win in front of a lot of TV sets. Hopefully they are getting paid well for this
 
SubbaBub said:
I'm not sure what makes everyone think a game in Orlando would be a UCF home crowd. UCF will do OK, their guys get to go to Ireland too. Might help recruiting against (oh say USF)

This is a bowl trip for PSU and it's traveling horde. A horde that will be 4 years without a bowl game. I think they'll sell a few tickets.

By the way. Their AD has the travel packages already up. 13 months in advance. Anyone in Storrs taking notes?

http://psu.crokeparkclassic.com/
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If UCF doesn't have a home crowd in Orlando what the hell are they doing in our conference?

God please no one in Storrs play a home game against a storied NCAA program in Europe.
 
whaler11 said:
If UCF doesn't have a home crowd in Orlando what the hell are they doing in our conference?

God please no one in Storrs play a home game against a storied NCAA program in Europe.
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Unlike a team like Nebraska. PSU has a ton of alumni living in Florida. It's one of the reasons the occupied about 70% of the Orange Bowl in 2006 against another Florida based school. They'd put 20k in Orlando easy. But I suspect this game was always going to be abroad and a condition of the two-game series.
 
SubbaBub said:
Unlike a team like Nebraska. PSU has a ton of alumni living in Florida. It's one of the reasons the occupied about 70% of the Orange Bowl in 2006 against another Florida based school. They'd put 20k in Orlando easy. But I suspect this game was always going to be abroad and a condition of the two-game series.
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Odd they waited years to announce then. I'm not sure why it matters how many alumni live in an area. If your fans fill your stadium unless you sell them tickets they can't get in.

UCF just built a great stadium. Why would they build it if they have both no fans and no intention of playing teams there fans would want to see?
 
I must have misread somewhere... I thought they got rid of the home and home and went with just the one game in Ireland? Are they still going to play @PSU as a "return" game?

Also if O'Leary and O'Brien can have a game in Ireland, maybe we can get Pasqualoni and Addazio to have a game in Italy, eh?
 
junglehusky said:
I must have misread somewhere... I thought they got rid of the home and home and went with just the one game in Ireland? Are they still going to play @PSU as a "return" game?

Also if O'Leary and O'Brien can have a game in Ireland, maybe we can get Pasqualoni and Addazio to have a game in Italy, eh?
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First game is in Happy Valley on September 14th.
 
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