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tcf15 said:
That's one of my favorite things about the brigade - they never offer any realistic suggestions for a replacement. It's just get rid of him and UConn will be fine regardless.
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And they don't realize we will not get someone better at attracting talent to a cold-weather school in the AAC.
 
RJScootin said:
This game aside. Should KO be allowed to coach this team next year with another 6th place finish in the AAC? I don't believe he should, standards need to be much higher than that. This team last year had the preseason rookie of the year JA, preseason defensive player of the year in AB, and preseason first teamer in Dan Hurley. Still managed to finish is 6th, underachieving at the highest level.
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Can we wait to see if we actually come in sixth before we spend time thinking about this?
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Stairmaster said:
And they don't realize we will not get someone better at attracting talent to a cold-weather school in the AAC.
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If KO keeps letting his talented teams lose as they have since the NC, the talent will stop coming regardless. Then KO will be working with poor players in his poor system/with his poor in-game coaching.

If you bite the bullet and get a new guy, yes the talent goes away quicker. But if the guy can coach, who should be able to stay in the top half of this conference, the team will start winning. Then the talent will start coming organically again. Someone mentioned Rick Barnes; if you grabbed him now while UConn could still be spun as an upgrade... as opposed to in 2020....

FWIW at this time I'm not for firing KO.
 
Rocktheworld said:
If KO keeps letting his talented teams lose as they have since the NC, the talent will stop coming regardless. Then KO will be working with poor players in his poor system/with his poor in-game coaching.

If you bite the bullet and get a new guy, yes the talent goes away quicker. But if the guy can coach, who should be able to stay in the top half of the conference, the team will start winning. Then the talent will start coming organically again. Someone mentioned Rick Barnes; if you grabbed him now while UConn could still be spun as an upgrade... as opposed to in 2020....

FWIW at this timeI'm not for firing KO.
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Rick Barnes? You've lost your mind
 
Rocktheworld said:
I can't believe we're starting this, but who has done more with the talent he's recruited as head coach?
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We have a nice class this year. Rick Barnes did less with more (some serious top 10 talent) longer than any coach I can think of
 
August_West said:
We have a nice class this year. Rick Barnes did less with more (some serious top 10 talent) longer than any coach I can think of
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Not only that, but he's not recruiting to Texas here. Huge difference.
 
Kevin Ollie is a dumpster fire right now, but I'm still fully behind him. He has this year and next year to figure it out, and I think he will.
 
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UConn has to learn how to beat a zone. They don't have multiple shooters like they've had in previous seasons, so they cannot out shoot the zone. It looked like Larrier was flashing to center of the zone pretty effectively in the second half, but neither Gilbert, nor Adams was getting him the ball there. He would have to come out to the top of the key to avoid the 3 seconds and no one respects his up fake because he really doesn't have an outside shot. I don't know what his MO is, but it is pretty clear that Ollie needs to gameplan for ALL opponents.

Facey is an empty jersey on the offensive end and Brimah is almost useless unless the ball is right above the rim and he is already in the air.

Two other things.
1) Northeastern was in the penalty with 8 minutes to go in the first half. They committed only one more foul the rest of the half? ONE!!!!! On the other hand UConn was 40% from the line. Where did the 95% FT shooting team go from two years ago? What happened to the Steve Nash Drill? Brimah looks like a cross between Shaq and Dwight Howard at the line. What the heck is the little flipping motion? Where did his form go that sent the St. Joe's game into overtime? Oh, and anyone thinking Gilbert was a one-and-done can put that idea on the back burner. Just like Purvis, the NBA likes it's guards to hit their free throws.

2) Speaking of Fouls. Why not drive directly at Murphy? IIRC, he had three fouls early in the 2nd half and Rick Barnes mentioned he didn't want to pick up his 4th. Why did UConn accommodate him?

There is still plenty of time to turn the season around and I don't Ollie is in trouble yet, but I'm tired of seeing his WTF face. He can't deny that a good amount of the under-performance of the last few days is on him.
 
dandar said:
Wagner returns 5 of their top 6 players and 2 JR college transfers to a team that finished in the NIT last season. They are not your typical cupcake. Our best players are freshmen and sophomores. Brimah, Facey and Purvis should get their minutes reduced as the season moves along and the pups grow up. This is college. These guys are learning and will get better. Ollie's teams always peak in March.

I am not writing off this season though I have to be honest, I am already looking forward to next year when the 3 seniors are gone. If Larrier comes back, this team will go places. Regarding this year, I think Maui will tell us a lot. They do need a big men coach desperately. We haven't had a good one since that Pitt guy got caught with hookers. That was a damn shame on so many levels.

Either way, a WTF loss if you could call it that is out of the way. The top 5 got their mouthful of crow. They know what they need to work on, namely pretty much everything. Having said that, rebounding and offense, inside out play need a lot of work. Wagner showed them what a team can do when they play like one instead of bunch of individuals. Should be an entertaining season.
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They just lost to UMass Lowell and we just lost to Northeastern. Maybe you are blind to it and under reacting? Yeah I think so. Get your head out of KO's
 
Caronimo said:
They just lost to UMass Lowell and we just lost to Northeastern. Maybe you are blind to it and under reacting? Yeah I think so. Get your head out of KO's
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Yeah under reacting - that's is
wow
But the usual "Its all KOs fault" clan are level headed
I agree with dander on his Wagner observation
 
dandar said:
Wagner returns 5 of their top 6 players and 2 JR college transfers to a team that finished in the NIT last season. They are not your typical cupcake. Our best players are freshmen and sophomores. Brimah, Facey and Purvis should get their minutes reduced as the season moves along and the pups grow up. This is college. These guys are learning and will get better. Ollie's teams always peak in March.

I am not writing off this season though I have to be honest, I am already looking forward to next year when the 3 seniors are gone. If Larrier comes back, this team will go places. Regarding this year, I think Maui will tell us a lot. They do need a big men coach desperately. We haven't had a good one since that Pitt guy got caught with hookers. That was a damn shame on so many levels.

Either way, a WTF loss if you could call it that is out of the way. The top 5 got their mouthful of crow. They know what they need to work on, namely pretty much everything. Having said that, rebounding and offense, inside out play need a lot of work. Wagner showed them what a team can do when they play like one instead of bunch of individuals. Should be an entertaining season.
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Wagner stinks, they just lost to UMass Lowell, there is no over reacting to this mess. It smells like the beginning of the end.
 
Stairmaster said:
And they don't realize we will not get someone better at attracting talent to a cold-weather school in the AAC.
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I recognize he has elite recruiting skills but I also recognize he's terrible at X's and O's. There's no reason why he cant surround himself with coaches that compliment his shortcomings while he remains the figurehead of the program. He just looks so lost when it comes to the whole coaching part.
 
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