So What's Been The Oddest Statement On The Boneyard This Season

[Nostical]

I do have one bone to pick with the Yard ... when one of another of you often (some with frequency) stated that UConn was a "Bad" football team this season.
Also, I have a tough time understanding how one particular guy says the Coaches planned to "lose".

Not sure who you're referencing here Pudge. I never called this a bad football team. Just the opposite. And there's a huge difference between saying coaches "planned to lose" and saying coaches "planned not to lose". But within a contentious thread it might be good to identify the people you are calling out.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

I do believe it. I believed Nick Williams was an underused slot receiver. I believed Ryan Griffin should have started over John Delahunt. That Marcus Easly had talent. That Byron Jones was not given the credit deserved here --when he was healthy. I recall folks here saying Nick W couldn't play in the NFL. I disagreed and was called a troller then. Here's my take. We have lots of talented players on this team. The fact that you and a few others don't want to recognize that is your problem not mine.

My position is that we were a better football team than Nova, Army, UCF, ECU, and Tulane. Mizzou is probably better than us but it's close. We were not, this year, in 2015, better than BYU, USF, Cincy, Navy, Houston, and Temple. I don't think that's all that controversial nor is it saying that we don't have talent. But you are trolling anyways and don't want to have an honest discussion because if you did, you'd start by calling for Diaco's head. But maybe that would upset some of the crowd that you roll with.

 

[CTMike]

Nostical - starting this thread was a way for you to say look at me I'm right. There's no other reason to start it.

The thing is you are trying to claim that your opinion is fact. You've concluded that we have unsurpassed talent and guaranteed wins multiple times... And found reasons each time it didn't come true that didn't include your preconceived notion of talent.

The fact that we aren't as talented as Bama doesn't make us negative haters. It's simple truth.

This team is loaded with sophs and frosh that haven't reached their potential yet. If you want to go on believing that a team this raw was ready to run the table, that's on you. It's very illogical though. And that is not contrary to my belief that we do have talent in SOME areas. But not all. And certainly not a level of depth that we need to make a real run. You are projecting out your beliefs of where their talent eventually will be without giving them a chance to get there.

 

[Nostical]

We were not, this year, in 2015, better than BYU, USF, Cincy, Navy, Houston, and Temple. I don't think that's all that controversial nor is it saying that we don't have talent.

Who ever said we were "better"? Navy and Cincy beat us. No doubt. We beat Houston. No doubt. We should have beaten Mizzou and USF. No doubt. We were in position to have beaten BYU. No doubt. Our game plan vs Temple given our roster injuries was misguided in my view.
And here's my final statements here which you can happily disagree with. We have a talented team. I wouldn't trade our roster for Temple's.

 

[J187Money]

I do believe it. I believed Nick Williams was an underused slot receiver. I believed Ryan Griffin should have started over John Delahunt. That Marcus Easly had talent. That Byron Jones was not given the credit deserved here --when he was healthy. I recall folks here saying Nick W couldn't play in the NFL. I disagreed and was called a troller then. Here's my take. We have lots of talented players on this team. The fact that you and a few others don't want to recognize that is your problem not mine.

Nobody disagrees with the bolded statement. We do have lots of talented players on this team. We also have some subpar ones. That you are unwilling to acknowledge that, and when you do you only blame the coaches for it, harms your credibility.

BTW - this board loved Griffin, Williams, and Easley. Most of the talk, however, was that having 2 or 3 guys that are lower echelon NFL talent on an offense doesn't mean squat when you have a D2 QB running the show. Someone needs to put the ball in their hands. And someone needs to block.

 

[J187Money]

Who ever said we were "better"? Navy and Cincy beat us. No doubt. We beat Houston. No doubt. We should have beaten Mizzou and USF. No doubt. We were in position to have beaten BYU. No doubt. Our game plan vs Temple given our roster injuries was misguided in my view.
And here's my final statements here which you can happily disagree with. We have a talented team. I wouldn't trade our roster for Temple's.

Nobody would trade our roster for Temple's TODAY - given that they lose half their team and our team is so young. Of course you've completely missed the point.

On the field, at Temple, with the players we had available - we would have lost that game 9 out of 10 times, regardless of the play calling / game plan. Please explain in detail how I'm wrong. At home, at full strength? Game might be a toss up. I would certainly give us a puncher's chance. But you talk as if they were a D3 squad and we should have rolled them, other than for poor coaching.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Nobody would trade our roster for Temple's TODAY - given that they lose half their team and our team is so young. Of course you've completely missed the point.

On the field, at Temple, with the players we had available - we would have lost that game 9 out of 10 times, regardless of the play calling / game plan. Please explain in detail how I'm wrong. At home, at full strength? Game might be a toss up. I would certainly give us a puncher's chance. But you talk as if they were a D3 squad and we should have rolled them, other than for poor coaching.

I've come to the conclusion that when Nos says he wouldn't trade rosters with Temple today, he is trolling and when pressed, will clarify that he means that he wouldn't trade rosters because we are so young and they are loaded with seniors.

Nos, this is your chance to clarify your statement, because there probably isn't one person on the Yard who would agree that we had a more talented roster than Temple THIS YEAR. Not even your buddy sportsart would agree.

It's clear that he's just trolling us and we are being willing participants.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

I would like Nos to identify two people on the offensive side of the ball who he thinks is a good or consistent, decent blocker. I'd settle for one.

 

[Nostical]

Nobody would trade our roster for Temple's TODAY - given that they lose half their team and our team is so young. Of course you've completely missed the point.

On the field, at Temple, with the players we had available - we would have lost that game 9 out of 10 times, regardless of the play calling / game plan. Please explain in detail how I'm wrong.

You may not be wrong. I simply think you are. I'd rather lose going for broke in that game than playing IMHO not to lose. That's all this is about. And as for trading rosters it's more than just measurables on the field. Let's leave it at that.

 

[Stainmaster]

"It's more than just measurables on the field."

Translation: I wouldn't be able to tailgate and be buddy-buddy with the players' parents if we switched rosters.

 

[uconndogs]

I honestly don't get why some folks here are fans. Of all the things there are to do in life, being a college football fan should be something done largely for fun and excitement. If your idea of fun is wallowing around in piles of , then I guess that speaks more about your options than the football program.

Life's too short.........

 

[Nostical]

Translation: I wouldn't be able to tailgate and be buddy-buddy with the players' parents if we switched rosters.

Oh really? What's your level of sacrifice for these players? I can't wait to hear.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Should be a flag or tag or something to identify posters that are friends and family of players. A smiley face or something. Should be a different flag or tag for posters that are player family groupies. A radioactive symbol or something.

 

[whaler11]

I honestly don't get why some folks here are fans. Of all the things there are to do in life, being a college football fan should be something done largely for fun and excitement. If your idea of fun is wallowing around in piles of , then I guess that speaks more about your options than the football program.

Life's too short....

Where does stuff like this even come from?

A team that goes 1-5 against bowl teams... noting that other teams just might have better players isn't wallowing in anything. It's just really not being completely insane.

 

[Nostical]

Of all the things there are to do in life, being a college football fan should be something done largely for fun.

What's not fun about a spirited back and forth on a freaking blog site?

 

[J187Money]

You may not be wrong. I simply think you are. I'd rather lose going for broke in that game than playing IMHO not to lose. That's all this is about. And as for trading rosters it's more than just measurables on the field. Let's leave it at that.

How many out of 10 do you think we would win against Temple, going for broke with Tim Boyle at the helm. I say 1-2. You?

 

[Nostical]

Should be a flag or tag or something to identify posters that are friends and family of players.

Be careful. Some folks in the government would call that profiling.

 

[Stainmaster]

Oh really? What's your level of sacrifice for these players? I can't wait to hear.

Level of sacrifice? I don't think you have any understanding of the fan-player dynamic. Which makes sense given how your behavior indicates you've completely blurred the line. I watch all the games that are on my cable package on TV, and when I'm not at school I've recently begun putting some of my money into going to the games themselves. I post supportive messages on social media in an effort to get many of my old classmates/friends who attend UConn more aware of the football program and the need to support it. For a fan in my living and financial situation, I don't think there's a hell of a lot more I could be doing...bottom line, I'm not doing any of that because I feel I owe the players any sacrifice. I'm doing it because I enjoy it and I get gratification from being a fan of the program. And the players don't owe me anything either. I know damn well I'm putting my money and time into an entity that involves young athletes who aren't fully developed physically or emotionally. Before you get your undies in a wad, that's not a dig on the players; virtually every student-athlete will be leaving with a stronger body and a better head on their shoulders than the ones they came in with. But bottom line, I don't have any expectation of "owing" or "sacrifice".

But I'm not flipping burgers for their parents, so I guess I'm not worthy of being a fan.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Be careful. Some folks in the government would call that profiling.

That's a stretch. A radioactive symbol, or a poison symbol, is usually very easy to justify.

 

[Carl Spackler]

I'm very happy this team has gotten through a season to a post season game. At this point in time, this team has one more game together to play.

The program reality is that it can go backwards as quickly as it goes forward after that game. Recruiting, player development on field and off, and coaching and systems development on the field and off, have got to keep improving, if we're going to have a better team next season.

 

[Husky25]

"Quite frankly, it was requested that I do a few briefs or breakdowns of this year's UConn team..."

 

[businesslawyer]

How many out of 10 do you think we would win against Temple, going for broke with Tim Boyle at the helm. I say 1-2. You?

I'd take the under of your 1 to 2 and give you odds. Under those circumstances, between 5 and 10 of 100.

 

[uconndogs]

Where does stuff like this even come from?

A team that goes 1-5 against bowl teams... noting that other teams just might have better players isn't wallowing in anything. It's just really not being completely insane.

Wasn't directed at you. I get the analysis side of it, but the conspiracy theories with the coaching.....that stuff not so much.

 

[Pudge]

Not sure who you're referencing here Pudge. I never called this a bad football team. Just the opposite. And there's a huge difference between saying coaches "planned to lose" and saying coaches "planned not to lose". But within a contentious thread it might be good to identify the people you are calling out.

ummm ...

It definitely was NOT you. I think it was at least 3 others.

 

[Pudge]

"It's more than just measurables on the field."

Translation: I wouldn't be able to tailgate and be buddy-buddy with the players' parents if we switched rosters.

You know ...

This one was over the line. I could care less who tailgates with who and what motivates some of these posts. It is interesting that we actually have people that know parents of players (and I have known a few), why would we want to rag on them?

My post - a long time ago - is we shouldn't be dumping on certain posters and ganging up. Specifically ... we have lost some of the older and early posters in the last 3 years and I think one of the reasons is that some people get into pummeling when they think they can. (not directed at this post)

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

You know ...

This one was over the line. I could care less who tailgates with who and what motivates some of these posts. It is interesting that we actually have people that know parents of players (and I have known a few), why would we want to rag on them?

My post - a long time ago - is we shouldn't be dumping on certain posters and ganging up. Specifically ... we have lost some of the older and early posters in the last 3 years and I think one of the reasons is that some people get into pummeling when they think they can. (not directed at this post)

You are really something else. Back on the idiotic notion that posters like whaler, myself, and others are what drove away posters. Couldn't have been the losing and CR hits we've endured the last 5 years.

Your buddy started this thread. Blame him. What you see as bullying, others (including Nos by the way) see it as spirited back and forth. FWIW, I think it's great that Nos and others befriend the families of the kids on the team. It's great that they have a play to go and mingle with fans and other families. I'm sure the families appreciate it. My only point of contention is that it makes him completely biased in his analysis of the team.

Nobody has really said this is a bad football team. The people you refer to without naming names (wink wink) have been mostly supportive of Diaco and the progress we've made on the field. This is a Pudge fantasy.

 

[RedStickHusky]

You think this proves anything? We simply played the teams that were on our schedule, beat the conference champion and suffered several unecceesary losses due to play calling gaffes and horrid offensive game plans. I'll give you Cincy and Navy, not the others. So go ahead and enjoy staying as negative as you want about the Huskies talent. I'm not getting into that ditch with you.

No fair competing for this award when the nominations are already closed.

 

[Pudge]

You are really something else. Back on the idiotic notion that posters like whaler, myself, and others are what drove away posters. Couldn't have been the losing and CR hits we've endured the last 5 years.

Your buddy started this thread. Blame him. What you see as bullying, others (including Nos by the way) see it as spirited back and forth. FWIW, I think it's great that Nos and others befriend the families of the kids on the team. It's great that they have a play to go and mingle with fans and other families. I'm sure the families appreciate it. My only point of contention is that it makes him completely biased in his analysis of the team.

Nobody has really said this is a bad football team. The people you refer to without naming names (wink wink) have been mostly supportive of Diaco and the progress we've made on the field. This is a Pudge fantasy.

I love when you JUMP into something that was no name with all your bluster. And, it wasn't directed in any form at you ...

I have read this board like I read few things; and I have grimaced over the description which has arisen several times this year ... "bad" football team. I am with the "Bill Parcells" school - You are what your record says you are. We are a 6-6 Bowl Bound Team that played an unusual amount of Sophomores and Frosh.

I am older and not everyone older is my buddy. It is not a fantasy that some of you are excessively into hurling negative invective.

 

[Palatine]

I do believe it. I believed Nick Williams was an underused slot receiver. I believed Ryan Griffin should have started over John Delahunt. That Marcus Easly had talent. That Byron Jones was not given the credit deserved here --when he was healthy. I recall folks here saying Nick W couldn't play in the NFL. I disagreed and was called a troller then. Here's my take. We have lots of talented players on this team. The fact that you and a few others don't want to recognize that is your problem not mine.

When you're right, you're right.

The talent has been here. The leadership has not. And I always believed they deserved better than Edsall. If we had to step backwards to get it, so much better in the long run.

 

[Pudge]

When you're right, you're right.

The talent has been here. The leadership has not. And I always believed they deserved better than Edsall. If we had to step backwards to get it, so much better in the long run.

It's an interesting story. The Rivals/Scout rankings are poor evaluations of some specific regions (NE and NY for sure) and, then, specific skillsets. Ryan Griffin was a NH RB in Londonderry. Like Danny Murray (a hoop player) and Steve Brouse (a lineman basically), you can see talent come into this program; yet, UConn is consistently judged the low level it is. We aren't at practice. We have to believe the Edsall/PP/Diaco knows what they are seeing and know how to develop. One of the most fascinating part of being a UConn football fan is to see a 4/5 year arc and then success beyond College. Our secondary has been repeatedly rising over our FBS years. Kids with little notoriety getting drafted and playing for money. It has happened in basically 5 generations of players since 2003.