So how much would UConn beat the Gators by?

[sdhusky]

Florida was 23rd to start the year and A&M was not ranked, so that initial point is just wrong.

Trying to judge a team off a game, which means nothing, played 5 weeks after the season is over is just silly.

That Clemson team was handled South Carolina in the regular season and barely beat Auburn, GT was BLOWN OUT by UGA, that LSU beat a bowl bound PAC 12 team by almost 40 in the regular season when games matter. Oh, and how about that Bama Michigan score?

Again judging a team off a bowl game is just stupid, look what they do when the game counts and they are in season.

Half of the preseason top 10 was SEC teams and since they hardly play OOC, it basically assured the top 10 final will have SEC teams, regardless of their true strength. Think of the 6 conference wins against pre-season top 10 Razobacks.

 

[Dooley]

Jesus, you must not follow the game much or ever watch it.

You do realize they won all those games you listed? They also beat 3 top 10 teams I believe.

They held UGA to 20 points below their average. A&M 27 below theirs. South Carolina 20 below theirs. FSU 2 TD's under theirs. In all those games you for some silly reason listed they gave up a combined 41 points, which is about the same UConn gave up to Syracuse.

No one is arguing Florida has a great offense, but to say their D is better then UConn's is flat out wrong and uninformed.

Okay, so I admit that you were referring to my choice of taking UL's roster over UF's roster and calling that the dumbest post of the year. Now I see that you were pointing out my defensive comparison post as the dumbest. By default, I think this post could be my dumbest because I'm trying to balance work with football analysis. My bad! Please ignore the listing of games as it doesn't pertain to my first dumb post of the year.

Now, onto my original dumbest post of the year: I do think UConn's D was every bit as good as Florida's this past year. UConn had some stinkers, I'll grant you. Syracuse and Western Michigan come immediately to mind. And I didn't say Florida had a bad defense this past year. I just happen to think that ours was every bit as good as UF's.

Florida had the #5 ranked total defense in the country while giving up 283.42 yards/pg
UConn had the #9 ranked total defense in the country while giving up 309.92 yards/pg

Florida had the #3 ranked scoring defense in the country while giving up 12.92 ppg
UConn had the #23 ranked scoring defense in the country while giving up 19.83 ppg.

Before you say "Florida played a tougher schedule" (which I admit, they did), let me ask you: whose offense is better - UConn or Florida? Now if I said UConn's offense was every bit as good as Florida's offense, then I'd nominate myself for dumbest post of the year and self-impose a lifelong ban from the Boneyard. But the offensive disparity really helps my point. While UConn's D was left on the field for the majority of games because of a bevy of 3 and outs, turnovers, and conservative punting strategy, Florida's D was aided with a pretty good offense (any offense was better than UConn's in 2012) that got a few first downs and had a few scoring drives, especially in the 2nd half when defenses get winded.

UConn's D was far more important to its team's success than Florida's D and played up to that level except for two stinkers. With any semblance of offense whatsoever, UConn would have been bowling this year and, who knows, could have contended for part of the Big East championship share (as if the conference needed another co-co-co-co champion right?). Aside from the shitter against Syracuse, UConn could have won every game it played this year thanks in large part of the defense. So yes, I still contend that UConn's D played every bit as well as Florida's D did in 2012.

 

[HartfordHank]

Florida had the #3 ranked scoring defense in the country while giving up 12.92 ppg
UConn had the #23 ranked scoring defense in the country while giving up 19.83 ppg.

Before you say "Florida played a tougher schedule" (which I admit, they did), let me ask you: whose offense is better - UConn or Florida? Now if I said UConn's offense was every bit as good as Florida's offense, then I'd nominate myself for dumbest post of the year and self-impose a lifelong ban from the Boneyard. But the offensive disparity really helps my point. While UConn's D was left on the field for the majority of games because of a bevy of 3 and outs, turnovers, and conservative punting strategy, Florida's D was aided with a pretty good offense (any offense was better than UConn's in 2012) that got a few first downs and had a few scoring drives, especially in the 2nd half when defenses get winded.

I think the only real measure of a defense if the scoring defense. The game is measured by scoring and who cares how many yards you gain or don't gain scoring is number 1. Years ago the Patriots were number 1 against the pass in the NFL. The reason was because their run defense was so bad.

UConn had the 70th ranked schedule per Saragin and Florida had the 8th ranked schedule so they played against far superior talent than UConn.

If you look at time of possession Florida had the ball 33:07 per game and UConn had the ball 30:51 per game. Not as significant a difference as you might have suspected.

 

[ZooCougar]

This year Florida was vastly overrated. The rub on Louisville was too many close wins before they lost their first game.

I didn't realize Florida had that many close wins against mediocre competition too.

College football is a popularity contest, wrapped in a fashion show. It doesn't matter who you lose to, it matters when you lose.

 

[Jerry1714]

Okay, so I admit that you were referring to my choice of taking UL's roster over UF's roster and calling that the dumbest post of the year. Now I see that you were pointing out my defensive comparison post as the dumbest. By default, I think this post could be my dumbest because I'm trying to balance work with football analysis. My bad! Please ignore the listing of games as it doesn't pertain to my first dumb post of the year.

Now, onto my original dumbest post of the year: I do think UConn's D was every bit as good as Florida's this past year. UConn had some stinkers, I'll grant you. Syracuse and Western Michigan come immediately to mind. And I didn't say Florida had a bad defense this past year. I just happen to think that ours was every bit as good as UF's.

Florida had the #5 ranked total defense in the country while giving up 283.42 yards/pg
UConn had the #9 ranked total defense in the country while giving up 309.92 yards/pg

Florida had the #3 ranked scoring defense in the country while giving up 12.92 ppg
UConn had the #23 ranked scoring defense in the country while giving up 19.83 ppg.

Before you say "Florida played a tougher schedule" (which I admit, they did), let me ask you: whose offense is better - UConn or Florida? Now if I said UConn's offense was every bit as good as Florida's offense, then I'd nominate myself for dumbest post of the year and self-impose a lifelong ban from the Boneyard. But the offensive disparity really helps my point. While UConn's D was left on the field for the majority of games because of a bevy of 3 and outs, turnovers, and conservative punting strategy, Florida's D was aided with a pretty good offense (any offense was better than UConn's in 2012) that got a few first downs and had a few scoring drives, especially in the 2nd half when defenses get winded.

UConn's D was far more important to its team's success than Florida's D and played up to that level except for two stinkers. With any semblance of offense whatsoever, UConn would have been bowling this year and, who knows, could have contended for part of the Big East championship share (as if the conference needed another co-co-co-co champion right?). Aside from the ter against Syracuse, UConn could have won every game it played this year thanks in large part of the defense. So yes, I still contend that UConn's D played every bit as well as Florida's D did in 2012.

Florida's opponents averaged 32 points per game and Florida's D let up 12.9 points per game.

UConn opponents averaged 24 points per game and UConn D let up 20 points per game.

Florida on average held their opponents to under their average by 20 ppg while UConn held theirs to under 4 ppg.

I stand by my comment that when Dooley said UConn's D is as good as Florida's he is the leader in the clubhouse for dumbest comment of 2013.

 

[blackuc]

While the Connecticut defense was good this year, to say that it was as good as the University of Florida's is crazy. The game against Louisville was the only bad game the Gators played on defense all year and who knows how interested they were after spending a week in New Orleans on Bourbon Street. The only reason Florida was in the Sugar Bowl this year was because of their defense.

 

[Waquoit]

The game against Louisville was the only bad game the Gators played on defense all year and who knows how interested they were after spending a week in New Orleans on Bourbon Street.

This is another reason I hate the SEC, the SEC suckpumps. Reali had it right yesterday, when the SEC wins it's because they are so good. When they lose, they always have an excuse. When we beat USC it because they were cold. FLA loses and it was because they weren't interested, etc.

 

[Jerry1714]

This is another reason I hate the SEC, the SEC suckpumps. Reali had it right yesterday, when the SEC wins it's because they are so good. When they lose, they always have an excuse. When we beat USC it because they were cold. FLA loses and it was because they weren't interested, etc.

You don't hate the SEC, you are jealous of it.

Just like the SEC is jealous of the basketball conference we once had.

 

[blackuc]

Florida got out played and out coached. That is the reason they lost the game. I give all the credit to Louisville for winning this game, but it certainly meant more to Louisville and their fan base. They treated this like a Superbowl and Florida did not. Louisville had about 40 kids from the state of Florida on their roster and only a handful were even recruited by Florida. They definitely wanted to shove it up Florida's ass.

 

[HartfordHank]

Florida got out played and out coached. That is the reason they lost the game. I give all the credit to Louisville for winning this game, but it certainly meant more to Louisville and their fan base. They treated this like a Superbowl and Florida did not. Louisville had about 40 kids from the state of Florida on their roster and only a handful were even recruited by Florida. They definitely wanted to shove it up Florida's ass.

Louisville also had a coach who came from Florida and it was a big deal to him to beat Florida!

 

[Waquoit]

You don't hate the SEC, you are jealous of it.

Hell, no. If being like the SEC is the price of college football success, I'll stop going to games. The SEC is scum. The SEC is going to make me root for Notre Dame.

 

[Jerry1714]

Hell, no. If being like the SEC is the price of college football success, I'll stop going to games. The SEC is scum. The SEC is going to make me root for Notre Dame.

Why do you hate the SEC? And please do not give me the typical whiny nonsense about them being overrated every year because that is inaccurate. There is a reason why almost a quarter of the pro bowlers this year played in the SEC.

 

[Husky68]

I think the only real measure of a defense if the scoring defense. The game is measured by scoring and who cares how many yards you gain or don't gain scoring is number 1. Years ago the Patriots were number 1 against the pass in the NFL. The reason was because their run defense was so bad.

UConn had the 70th ranked schedule per Saragin and Florida had the 8th ranked schedule so they played against far superior talent than UConn.

If you look at time of possession Florida had the ball 33:07 per game and UConn had the ball 30:51 per game. Not as significant a difference as you might have suspected.

I have a different slant on time of possession. Let's say Florida has a good offense and each series takes 5 minutes. Defense also gives up 5 minutes each series (just to keep simple) so in 60 minute game there are 6 possessions each. Let's say Uconn averages 1 minute per series and opponents average the same. Each team would have 30 possessions each.
What I'm trying to say, Uconn stopped other team a whole lot of times because its offense kept going 3 and out. So a Florida defense only has to stop the opponent 6 times where as Uconn needs to do it 30 times.
I know is an exaggeration but look at the final quarter or so of the Temple game, how many times did Uconn stop Temple (including 4th down plays) before it finally gave up two big plays. So bad offense makes the defense "prove" itself a lot more times to just keep the time of possession anywhere even.

 

[Jerry1714]

I have a different slant on time of possession. Let's say Florida has a good offense and each series takes 5 minutes. Defense also gives up 5 minutes each series (just to keep simple) so in 60 minute game there are 6 possessions each. Let's say Uconn averages 1 minute per series and opponents average the same. Each team would have 30 possessions each.
What I'm trying to say, Uconn stopped other team a whole lot of times because its offense kept going 3 and out. So a Florida defense only has to stop the opponent 6 times where as Uconn needs to do it 30 times.
I know is an exaggeration but look at the final quarter or so of the Temple game, how many times did Uconn stop Temple (including 4th down plays) before it finally gave up two big plays. So bad offense makes the defense "prove" itself a lot more times to just keep the time of possession anywhere even.

For this argument to hold any weight it would require Florida to run a much much higher number of plays then UConn. Florida ran 20 more plays on the year then UConn, not 20 a game but 20 on the season.

 

[HartfordHank]

I have a different slant on time of possession. Let's say Florida has a good offense and each series takes 5 minutes. Defense also gives up 5 minutes each series (just to keep simple) so in 60 minute game there are 6 possessions each. Let's say Uconn averages 1 minute per series and opponents average the same. Each team would have 30 possessions each.
What I'm trying to say, Uconn stopped other team a whole lot of times because its offense kept going 3 and out. So a Florida defense only has to stop the opponent 6 times where as Uconn needs to do it 30 times.
I know is an exaggeration but look at the final quarter or so of the Temple game, how many times did Uconn stop Temple (including 4th down plays) before it finally gave up two big plays. So bad offense makes the defense "prove" itself a lot more times to just keep the time of possession anywhere even.

UConn actually had the ball for 31:09 in regulation while Temple had it for 28:51. UConn ran 80 plays for 381 yards while Temple ran 75 plays (five less then UConn) for 334 yards. UConn was 6-18 on third down and punted 7 times. Temple was 4-17 on third down and 2-4 on fourth down for a total of 6-21. Temple punted 8 times. Not sure your theory is working, even with the example you chose.

 

[JaYnYcE]

I still don't understand how Palatines troll like threads garner so much discussion. UConn couldn't have beaten Florida this year. We've never beaten a team that was in the top 5 when we played them. To even entertain that thought is just asinine.


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[CTBasketball]

UConn would have lost by 30 points.

 

[Jimdish255]

A roster as a whole? I'd take UL and I'm not just saying that because they won. I think Bridgewater >>> Driskel. I also think that the talent/speed level is not all that far off between the two...at least not to overcome the huge disparity at QB. So yes, I'd take UL's complete roster over UF's complete roster today.

You picked FL in the Pool because Louisville's coaches suck?

 

[Jerry1714]

You picked FL in the Pool because Louisville's coaches suck?

Dooley clearly does not know anything about college football and bases everything off one meaningless game