MilfordHusky
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Speaking of impactful calls, the WNBA championship was determined by a missed call.
I've never been a basketball ref, but from my experience as an official in another NCAA sport I can say that the officials' performance in every single game is subjected to multiple layers of scrutiny and evaluation. In addition to the assigned officiating crew, an "observer" or some other representative is assigned to each game by the conference coordinator of officials to be present during the officials' pregame procedures and postgame debriefings, as well as the game itself, and to submit his or her own report to the coordinator. Each official also submits their own report. The head coaches, of course, each get to submit their own evaluation as well (and you can imagine what those look like). In a game of this magnitude, it's very likely that the conference coordinator was also in attendance.
The refs are given a ton of feedback—some of it immediate, some of it in the days after the game—about the things they screwed up. It's a process that's not visible to the public, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Plebe- - - Yes all that is supposed to be true but in WBB, both WCBB and WNBA the people evaluating the refs performance is usually an ex ref that retired to supervisor status and is now evaluating his or her friends that refed together for 25 years previously! They're not going to slam their buddies no matter how lousy their performance!
Check out www.wbbstate.com/ they have a section on college refs. It is quite eye-opening to what is done! Click on right side of page in pink last section is officials.
When was the last time you heard of a ref being questioned about a call and how it affected the game! They can't be interviewed!
Plebe- - - Yes all that is supposed to be true but in WBB, both WCBB and WNBA the people evaluating the refs performance is usually an ex ref that retired to supervisor status and is now evaluating his or her friends that refed together for 25 years previously! They're not going to slam their buddies no matter how lousy their performance!
Check out www.wbbstate.com/ they have a section on college refs. It is quite eye-opening to what is done! Click on right side of page in pink last section is officials.
When was the last time you heard of a ref being questioned about a call and how it affected the game! They can't be interviewed!
Wilson picking up the T hurt her in my book. She needs to be smarter and more careful, especially as a junior.
(I'm not able to access any of the data you've linked, as it apparently requires a paid subscription.)
So you want the person who is in charge of evaluating officials to have no officiating experience?
I guarantee you that the likes of Kantner and Mattingly wouldn't be consistently working the biggest games if the coaches themselves didn't consider them among the best officials.
In what sport anywhere in the world (not just women's BB) are the officials made available to the media to explain their decisions? What would that accomplish?
The NBA has taken the novel step, in the interest of "transparency," of publishing a "report card" of officials' decisions in the last two minutes of the game. We have seen that on many occasions they have cited multiple mistakes in just that 1/24th of the game. We have also seen that many coaches, players, and observers feel that this report card is counterproductive to its stated aims.
While I appreciate your exclamation points, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You insult the integrity of every ref and supervisor in every sport. But hey, whatever floats your boat.
Plebe- - -No I want retired NBA officials with NO TIES to WBB be the supervisors evaluating people that they didn't run up & down the court with for 25 years!
As far as Kantner & Mattingly, Dimaio, etc go they're living off their rep from 10 to 15 years ago they've slowed down and are inconsistent! The best of the worst! Kantner is great now at the coach complaining then payback is a bi--ch!
The 2 SoCar games recently showed the level of competence now refing WBB. There are 15 to 20 illegal screens set in 95% of the games today Only 1 or 2 are called, if they called it, teams would work on holding their screens a second longer so they're not illegal!
UCONN has worked very hard on eliminating excess fouling, so can other teams but if the refs aren't going to call the fouls why spend a lot of practice time on it unless you're so demanding like Geno and cover all the bases!
Why do most refs call a touch foul 85' from the basket so the game slows down and loses it's pace, then doesn't make any call when 2 players collide near the basket?
Look at the arms of the players, like Natalie Butler, with the big purple welts from all the contact dished out usually not called!
I can't stand the incompetent refs, they're hurting the game! And the WNBA refs are worse than WCBB!
This "fantasy" would also be entirely different from anything @RSHERMVIKES is suggesting and I'm not sure why it would take "an entire army" to do it. The suggestion was NOT to have WCBB officials being supervised by former peers. @ThisJustIn has state this is not what is happening and based on previous posting I would take that to the bank. Until we get to the point of having machines call these games, call are going to be missed.It's fantasy to think there's an entire army of retired NBA officials just eager and available to supervise all conferences of women's college basketball.