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Adesmar123 said:
It might behoove all the intelligent regulars who responded to reread the original post. Nothing negative was said about Diggins. It pointed out her stats in that game and also noted it was her first WNBA game.

But then again that didn't stop the WBB experts here from criticizing someone who isn't in the clique for something they didn't say.
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You see, you just don't understand the credo here: "Always criticize something for what it isn't, even if what it isn't isn't what it's trying to be."
 
Not really reading a whole lot into a rookie's early (pre-)season play.
 
easttexastrash said:
Catchings had a -3 efficiency rating against San Antonio. Sasha Goodlett had a +13. Should we draw the conclusion that Goodlett is better than Catchings?

I put little importance of the efficiency rating as I don't think it is a true indicator of a players performance.
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I think for the most part it's only useful over many games, or a full season
 
Adesmar123 said:
I don't think the original poster advocated the +/- as a critical statistic. Reread the original post....It was an observation with no opinion. Lightheartedly it included two former UConn players.

I think those who want Skylar to succeed took it as an attack. She scored nine points and had three assists. Is that a Skylar criticism?

She may go on to be a great star in the WNBA and WBB. That night she was-19 in +/-. It is what it is.
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When you state Diggins +/- , then compare that to two UCONN graduates and follow up with "Welcome to the WNBA Skylar" you are making a negative statement. My opinion is that everyone has the right to say whatever they want, just own it.
 
ocoandasoc said:
Anybody notice Diggins +/- in Thursday night's game? It was -19, worst of all players. Welcome to the WNBA, Skylar! BTW, a couple other guards you might remember did a little better... Swanier +11, Hayes +16.
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Swanier had 0 points, 1rebound, 2 assists and 1 TO
Diggins had 9 points, 3assists, 1rebound, 2 steals and 2 TOs
Hayes had 5 points, 2 assists, 1 rebound, 2 steals and 4 TOs

This is a good argument for the efficiency rating meaning very little and is virtually being a useless stat. That is, unless you are looking for a reason to criticize a player.
 
the OP knew what they were doing... "stirring the pot"
 
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I think if we remember back to the beginning of this past season Diggins struggled quite a bit. People were thinking she wasn't playing up to her AA billing. That ND wasn't going to be good. But as you can see that was probably her just getting used to her new teammates around her. This might be the case here too. She is not my favorite player because of the way she carries herself sometimes but she definitely is a good teammate to have on your team and she performs well when she is in complete sync with her teammates, which I'm guessing in her first game with a new team she was not quite comfortable yet.
 
DaddyChoc said:
posters here dont like her cause she (and ND) gave UConn fits.... PERIOD
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And that is that nature of sports fandom and nothing new. Always surprises me when folks make a fuss over people cheering against opponents or former opponents. It is what it is. Love to hate her.
 
easttexastrash said:
After the first games Aneika Henry has a +22 efficiency rating. I am assuming she must be the best player in the league since her rating is better than everyone else, including Tina Charles and Tamika Catchings.
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Anneika Henry is one of the most underrated players in the league, if not in the sport entirely.
 
HuskyNan said:
Just curious, mau, how many non-UConn/ND games you've seen Diggins play?
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Probably all of them Nan........I don't have the stats but show them to me and prove me wrong I'm okay with that.......she shoots the ball a lot, good shots and bad shots, makes a few and misses a lot. Is this wrong? I could be I just don't see anything great about her game and when she gets treated like just another player like she will in the WNBA compared to her ND days, she will prove to be a pretty good player but nothing great at all......just one man's opinion though admittedly not a sure bet!! LOL
 
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Icebear said:
And that is that nature of sports fandom and nothing new. Always surprises me when folks make a fuss over people cheering against opponents or former opponents. It is what it is. Love to hate her.
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this is a "UConn board" who cares about what Skylar is doing in the WNBA?

(yeah yeah yeah this board covers more than just UConn players :rolleyes:)
 
DaddyChoc said:
this is a "UConn board" who cares about what Skylar is doing in the WNBA?

(yeah yeah yeah this board covers more than just UConn players :rolleyes:)
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We've always followed opponents.

It's more about hating the Yankees if you are a Red Sox fan. Most Yankee greats have always been scum to Red Sox Nation. At least as long as they still played the game. Some even after they were dead.
 
DaddyChoc said:
this is a "UConn board" who cares about what Skylar is doing in the WNBA?

(yeah yeah yeah this board covers more than just UConn players :rolleyes:)
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I have seen several threads that you start about non Uconn players. Are those ok?
 
Icebear said:
We've always followed opponents.

It's more about hating the Yankees if you are a Red Sox fan. Most Yankee greats have always been scum to Red Sox Nation. At least as long as they still played the game. Some even after they were dead.
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Ice the poster was stirring up the continuous hate of Ms Diggins PERIOD... yall can play foolish but not me
 
DaddyChoc said:
bad mouthing them or in support...?
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You didn't say anything about what was said just that it was said about non-Uconn players. Now you are adding a qualifier that it has to be bad mouthing.
 
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Kibitzer said:
I wish you had stopped at "great player." I for one never felt blessed watching her lead ND to all those damned wins vs. UConn. I will concede greatness.
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You are right. We were crushed by those losses (2 UConn graduates in our family). I meant to say those were exciting games and not blow outs.
 
What does -19 mean?

ocoandasoc said:
Anybody notice Diggins +/- in Thursday night's game? It was -19, worst of all players. Welcome to the WNBA, Skylar! BTW, a couple other guards you might remember did a little better... Swanier +11, Hayes +16.
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Man-Man said:
What does -19 mean?
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what it means is, while she was on the floor, the other team out-scored her team by 19 points. It is a bit of a deceptive stat, in that, there are 9 other players who influence that number - as well as 2 coaches. If you're on the floor with the end of your bench, up by a bunch, you might just be running out the clock, and willing to trade points for minutes. Or, conversely, you might be a "role player" on the floor with 4 starters, against the other squads' reserves, and (while you aren't doing much), your team is hammering the other guys for a three or four minute window. Over the course of a full season, it may have some value - particularly if you are playing"important" minutes - but, it doesn't mean much for the short term.
 
I didn't think calling a player "overrated" means dislike. I also think that she is overrated. Don't get me wrong, she's a very good player and a great leader. It's just that her shot selection sometimes leaves a lot to be desired, and she has won with a lot of experienced players as her teammates.
 
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mauconnfan said:
Probably all of them Nan........I don't have the stats but show them to me and prove me wrong I'm okay with that.......she shoots the ball a lot, good shots and bad shots, makes a few and misses a lot. Is this wrong? I could be I just don't see anything great about her game and when she gets treated like just another player like she will in the WNBA compared to her ND days, she will prove to be a pretty good player but nothing great at all......just one man's opinion though admittedly not a sure bet!! LOL
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She won't be treated like just another player in the WNBA. They'll protect their marketable star.

She took the amount of shots her team needed her to take in order to win. ND always either met or exceeded expectations under Skylar. That's not an overrated player.
 
ThisJustIn said:
I distinctly remember may 'yarders being thrilled that she would be exposed this year and that Notre Dame would fall off a cliff because she WASN'T surrounded by a lot of experienced players. Yah, that happened.
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Actually reading the 'Yard, I got the impression that many fans expected what happened in the Final Four to happen in the regular season and BE Final. There was still experienced players around Diggins (ie: McBride - who killed UCONN this year, Achonwa, Wright, Turner and Braker). Like I said she's a very good player and absolute great leader, but the other players had enough experience to do the other things.
 
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