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Singare…

Scrutineer said:
His competition shouldn't intimidate him and if he learned as much in his time here as some believe this could be a great team for him.
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He may be the best big on the team - especially on defense at High Point
 
uconngb said:
Would love to see him do well. Seemed like a good kid and unlike the others we lost, had accepted his role with grace and no complaints (at least publicly).

If you’re good enough to play, you’d have played
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He's athletic and long. Worth UConn seeing if he might develop. But lack of experience can be very hard to overcome at UConn's level. Wish him all the best in the next stage of his career.
 
Chief00 said:
He would figure out a way to do things today without losing what made him successful.
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I agree. I also think he would have been fine in the pros because he would have modified his approach when dealing with pros. I'm saying that making exaggerated time out gestures while calling your player a "" is not the way to do things now.
 
Waquoit said:
I agree. I also think he would have been fine in the pros because he would have modified his approach when dealing with pros. I'm saying that making exaggerated time out gestures while calling your player a "" is not the way to do things now.
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Jim was very intelligent and made adjustments without detouring from his core values. That is perhaps Dan Hurley’s biggest development opportunity - How to adjust his scheme to his personnel. Ideally, you recruit to meet the needs of your scheme. But, in real life there are misevaluations, recruiting/transfer losses and team chemistry. So what do you do when the inevitable happens? (Personnel not perfect fit for your scheme)
 
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Chief00 said:
How to adjust his scheme to his personnel. Ideally, you recruit to meet the needs of your scheme. But, in real life there are misevaluations, recruiting/transfer losses and team chemistry. So what do you do when the inevitable happens? (Personnel not perfect fit for your scheme)
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I'd ask Dan what to do. He seems to be navigating uncharted waters as well as anyone right now. And please don't pretend Jim didn't have his miscalculations along the way. His radical "retooling" of the roster all at once helped put UConn on APR probation.
 
Waquoit said:
I'd ask Dan what to do. He seems to be navigating uncharted waters as well as anyone right now. And please don't pretend Jim didn't have his miscalculations along the way. His radical "retooling" of the roster all at once helped put UConn on APR probation.
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Please don’t get me going about UConn having real classes for players without favoritism on grading and UNC having fake classes their players got A’s in without attending a class or taking tests, etc. Yet, UConn gets punished and UNC walks free and some apparently blame Calhoun for it not the NCAA.
 
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Waquoit said:
I'd ask Dan what to do. He seems to be navigating uncharted waters as well as anyone right now. And please don't pretend Jim didn't have his miscalculations along the way. His radical "retooling" of the roster all at once helped put UConn on APR probation.
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Two different approaches to a myriad of challenges unique to the specific times. JC definitely had a steeper hill to climb vs what Dan Hurley walked into at UConn.
Because of the portal creating free agency, miscalculations, IMHO are easier to overcome now but can also bite you in the arse faster and harder.
 
Chief00 said:
Please don’t get me going about UConn having real classes for players without favoritism on grading and UNC having fake classes their players got A’s in without attending a class or taking tests, etc. Yet, UConn gets punished and UNC walks free and some apparently blame Calhoun for it not the NCAA.
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It wasn't the only reason, there was a perfect storm of events that led to it. But he wasn't blameless.
 
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Waquoit said:
It wasn't the only reason, there was a perfect storm of events that led to it. But he wasn't blameless.
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Correct me if I am wrong but I seem to remember Calhoun being suspended for some texting by an assistant coach. I also remember Uconn losing a scholarship for the lack of academic advancement then the next year NCAA changing the rules and making them retroacively applied knowing that Uconn was the only school it would affect that year thereby intentionally punishing them twice. By the way how many of the Uconn students who hadn't academically advanced that year ended up getting their degree from Uconn after their pro career was over?
 
Chief00 said:
Please don’t get me going about UConn having real classes for players without favoritism on grading and UNC having fake classes their players got A’s in without attending a class or taking tests, etc. Yet, UConn gets punished and UNC walks free and some apparently blame Calhoun for it not the NCAA.
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No idea how old you are or if you went to UConn, but if you think our players didn't get some favoritism in class, then you are nuts. They were in "real" classes, but there was a reason they were all in Geology 101 together. One of the best projects I ever "completed" at UConn was with some men's athletes from a couple of different sports. I was freaked out at first, thinking they wouldn't do their part, but they told me not to worry about it. Neither did they.
 
Waquoit said:
I'd ask Dan what to do. He seems to be navigating uncharted waters as well as anyone right now. And please don't pretend Jim didn't have his miscalculations along the way. His radical "retooling" of the roster all at once helped put UConn on APR probation.
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Why would Chief ask Dan Hurley what to do. He would simply tell him
 
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diggerfoot said:
Knight, Hayward, King and Willingham. Take your pick for which of the last three you consider 3rd string.
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Willingham was the only one that was ever "third string". As a freshman he appeared in fewer games than Singare did, and as a senior he appeared in 24. Not exactly "magically weaving minutes".
 
boog204 said:
No idea how old you are or if you went to UConn, but if you think our players didn't get some favoritism in class, then you are nuts. They were in "real" classes, but there was a reason they were all in Geology 101 together. One of the best projects I ever "completed" at UConn was with some men's athletes from a couple of different sports. I was freaked out at first, thinking they wouldn't do their part, but they told me not to worry about it. Neither did they.
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Geo 101 was tough. Couldn’t stay awake.
 
boog204 said:
No idea how old you are or if you went to UConn, but if you think our players didn't get some favoritism in class, then you are nuts. They were in "real" classes, but there was a reason they were all in Geology 101 together. One of the best projects I ever "completed" at UConn was with some men's athletes from a couple of different sports. I was freaked out at first, thinking they wouldn't do their part, but they told me not to worry about it. Neither did they.
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I was in Engineering and Society class at UConn, etc. Let me remind you of the NCAA issue with UConn. Professors giving certain players low grades, so UConn MBB had a low grade point average per the NCAA and got punished.
In contrast UNC got no punishment for them giving players A’s in a class that did not exist.
Your post made zero sense.
 
Chief00 said:
I was in Engineering and Society class at UConn, etc. Let me remind you of the NCAA issue with UConn. Professors giving certain players low grades, so UConn MBB had a low grade point average per the NCAA and got punished.
In contrast UNC got no punishment for them giving players A’s in a class that did not exist.
Your post made zero sense.
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My point was in the late 90s/early 00s the athletes absolutely got some preferential treatment. I experienced it.
 
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boog204 said:
My point was in the late 90s/early 00s the athletes absolutely got some preferential treatment. I experienced it.
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The Engineering and Society Class was taught by the engineer who headed the Task Force that investigated the HCC roof collapse.
When we had to draw and indicate a certain number of features to a cable bridge one of the players put a car on the bridge and labeled that, in addition to the cables, anchors , towers etc. The professor was very transparent and told the entire class he was giving credit for the car, since it showed creative thinking etc. Everyone, had a good laugh (except for you if you were in the class) and no one complained. I learned so much in that class. The professor was brilliant.
Again, my point is UConn had certain professors who actually were tough on athletes. Hence, the grade issue. Your UNC did not have to deal with any accountable grade issue, since their players got A’s in classes that did not exist.
 
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Chief00 said:
The Engineering and Society Class was taught by the engineer who headed the Task Force that investigated the HCC roof collapse.
When we had to draw and indicate a certain number of features to a cable bridge one of the players put a car on the bridge and labeled that, in addition to the cables, anchors , towers etc. The professor was very transparent and told the entire class he was giving credit for the car, since it showed creative thinking etc. Everyone, had a good laugh (except for you if you were on the class)and no one complained. I learned so much in that class.
Again my point is UConn had certain professors who actually were tougher on athletes, hence the grade issue which your UNC did not have to deal with since their players got A’s in classes that did not exist.
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Crazy to see people try to bring down Calhoun to excuse and lift Hurley up so much recently.
 
Chief00 said:
Please don’t get me going about UConn having real classes for players without favoritism on grading and UNC having fake classes their players got A’s in without attending a class or taking tests, etc. Yet, UConn gets punished and UNC walks free and some apparently blame Calhoun for it not the NCAA.
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Keep in mind that Syracuse also had an APR violation and received what was then the standard punishment a loss of scholarship. Connecticut, also received a loss of scholarship, but then received a second punishment for the same year set to a new standard of loss of postseason play. The NCAA changed the rules and applied them, retroactively, punishing UConn twice for the same violation. But it gets even worse than that. The NCAA ignored Connecticut, current APR and applied only prior APR's because "other institutions wouldn't have time to put their APR together". What the hell does that even mean? How is that even vaguely relevant to Connecticut?

That debacle was the biggest bull crap event ever. For someone to come on this board and suggest that somehow that sequence of events shows that Jim Calhoun was a bad coach might well be the stupidest statement ever made on The Boneyard, and that is saying an awful lot.
 
uconnfan68 said:
Geo 101 was tough. Couldn’t stay awake.
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That was like a 250 person lecture when I was at UConn and the prof read off the top 50 grade averages in the class at the end of the semester and gave them little certificates. I finished with a 97 in the class and was not one of those names. From what I recall, prof soon after got chewed out by admin for the insane number of A’s being handed out and it became harder.
 
CL82 said:
Keep in mind that Syracuse also had an APR violation and received what was then the standard punishment a loss of scholarship. Connecticut, also received a loss of scholarship, but then received a second punishment for the same year set to a new standard of loss of postseason play. The NCAA changed the rules and applied them, retroactively, punishing UConn twice for the same violation. But it gets even worse than that. The NCAA ignored Connecticut, current APR and applied only prior APR's because "other institutions wouldn't have time to put their APR together". What the hell does that even mean? How is that even vaguely relevant to Connecticut?

That debacle was the biggest bull crap event ever. For someone to come on this board and suggest that somehow that sequence of events shows that Jim Calhoun was a bad coach might well be the stupidest statement ever made on The Boneyard, and that is saying an awful lot.
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Excellent post, I forgot some of the nuance over the years, and it was even more unfair than I recalled.
 
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