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Paesano said:
Go back and read what I said. I said he hasn't landed a consensus 5 star player. I never said he landed borderline 4 star players. I said they were borderline 5 star which is what is meant by not being a consensus 5 star. Diallo would be a consensus 5 star player.
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Zach Brown's a consensus 5 star. Almost positive Daniel Hamilton was too.
 
Yankees32123 said:
ZB is a 4* on ESPN, as was Hamilton. Rodney Purvis is the only consensus 5* on the roster or in recruiting classes.
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Hamilton was a 5 star on Rivals, 247, and Scout, 4 star on ESPN. 3 outta 4 major recruiting services, that's pretty much a 5 star in my book.
 
Paesano said:
You never lived there so you don't know what you are talking about. Upstater explained it but I'm sure you still don't get because you don't want to. The parts of Rochester in the snow belt, which is a small fraction of the city, don't get Blizzards like the Northeast does. They get a steady dose of lake effect. Go back and read what I said. I talked about snowfalls, not season totals. And, even then, the total is highly dependent on location. But you don't know that since you never lived there. Right?
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I've never lived there full-time, but I've spent a lot of time up there, and my cousins, my dad, and my uncle have told me stories about the staggering snowfalls they would get. Like, jump off the roof into the snow levels. And you better believe I'm going to listen to them over a moron who is wrong about everything else he ever says.
 
Yankees32123 said:
ZB is a 4* on ESPN, as was Hamilton. Rodney Purvis is the only consensus 5* on the roster or in recruiting classes.
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Why do we continue to care about what ESPN says. It is well-known that they bias rankings purely off where someone commits. In football, a 2-star can decommit from one school, commit to OSU, and overnight jump to a 4-star.

I'll be honest, I don't really know since I stopped paying attention once he committed to UK; is Wenyen Gabriel really a top 15 recruit? Let's also see what happens to Waters's ranking if/once he commits to Duke.
 
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tcf15 said:
Using RSCI:

Daniel Hamilton was 17th overall player in 2014
Jalen Adams was 24th overall player in 2015

Think those would qualify as consensus 5* players.
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An average ranking doesn't say anything definitive about the consensus or whether a different type of ranking is unanimous.

But I do accept that I used a poor choice of words when I used consensus. A better word, given what I intended to say, is unanimous. None of them have been unanimous 5 star except Purvis and we got him as a transfer but missed on him the first time around.

People can be as pouty as they want but the reality is that we have been losing every recruiting battle for kids that are unanimously considered to be among the bluest of blue chips. Sorry if that makes people sad but it is true. Ollie has lead with Diallo from as early on as one can lead. Diallo would break the trend and should be winnable.
 
CallMeBruce said:
I've never lived there full-time, but I've spent a lot of time up there, and my cousins, my dad, and my uncle have told me stories about the staggering snowfalls they would get. Like, jump off the roof into the snow levels. And you better believe I'm going to listen to them over a moron who is wrong about everything else he ever says.
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Annnnd, you are still wrong. In a bad winter, in the snow belt, after a string of lake effect events it is possible to see drifts up to the roof. But you just keep on ignoring all those qualifiers and insist the entire city of Rochester gets hammered more on one lake effect event than Hartford does from a Nor'easter. You will be wrong but keep up the good fight with this moron. I would be insulted but I realize you have less of a clue about who you are dealing with than you have about upstate NY. It is actually hysterical.
 
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Paesano said:
You might want to clarify that to say Syracuse is the last place you would want to go to school. Most of upstate NY is a LOT nicer than Syracuse and the southern half of the Buffalo area. Rochester has probably had way less snow the last few years than Hartford has and is a lot nicer of a city. Albany is no worse than New Haven, Waterbury or Bridgeport. And the finger lakes are as nice, with less snow, than the Berkshires. Ithaca is way nicer than Storrs and I am not sure why anyone wouldn't want to got to an Ivy and especially one that isn't surrounded by high crime rate areas. (Looking at you Yale)
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Never been to Albany, but I would have never imagined comparing Waterbury or Bridgeport to New Haven. I think you probably no good at comparing cities.
 
Albany isn't anything like New Haven, Waterbury or Bridgeport. Have you ever been to any of these cities?
 
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BUHusky10 said:
If he posts a pic of him in Under Armour gear on Instagram after it's over.
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Hopefully, he is just having his fun. But, if we lose this kid and we are a bubble team again next year, major changes will need to be made.
 
Paesano said:
Hopefully, he is just having his fun. But, if we lose this kid and we are a bubble team again next year, major changes will need to be made.
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Those two things are unrelated.

The staff has clearly addressed the recruiting shortcomings over the past year. We'll see if that translates to success on the court, but losing out on one recruit shouldn't be the reason to make major changes.
 
If we lose him, we lose him. Great athlete, lot of potential, but he's not holding the future of UConn basketball in his hands. Given what's transpired (or not transpired) with current members of the roster, I'd be more concerned about what's going to happen with kids like Durham and Jackson once they set foot on campus. (Namely, will they improve.)
 
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UConn990411 said:
Those two things are unrelated.

The staff has clearly addressed the recruiting shortcomings over the past year. We'll see if that translates to success on the court, but losing out on one recruit shouldn't be the reason to make major changes.
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I think they are related. Let's say we barely make, or miss, the tournament this year and the same happens next year. That would be three bad to mediocre seasons in a row. That, especially if it is three NCAA tournament misses in a row, might be enough to ask for major program changes. It might even justify a head coach change. However, if he had a Top 10, unanimous 5 star, level recruit coming in, that might justify giving him one more year to reverse course with the assumption being that this kid is immediate impact material.
 
Seems like a lot of people look at next season as the year to expect major results. I disagree, we have lots of talent coming in, but they are freshmen. Our best case scenario is that one or two of them give us something and Jalen, Hamilton and Brimah all come back and elevate their games. Most likely, the new guys won't bring too much to the table next year. Losing Miller, Gibbs, Calhoun and Purvis (likely) will create some big voids. Regardless of the knocks on Purvis and Gibbs, they produce much more than the freshmen will. Purvis is productive, Gibbs scores and Calhoun has given us defense, energy and several key baskets. I expect a bit of a long improvement curve in a lot of ways. Just as Jalen is a junior and presumed star of the team and the big freshman class become sophomores, we'll lose Amida and Hamilton. We need another strong class after this incoming one badly to get where we want to be. I tend to think the recruiting restrictions we had hurt quite a bit and we are two years from shaking off the effect.
 
Hoophound said:
Seems like a lot of people look at next season as the year to expect major results. I disagree, we have lots of talent coming in, but they are freshmen. Our best case scenario is that one or two of them give us something and Jalen, Hamilton and Brimah all come back and elevate their games. Most likely, the new guys won't bring too much to the table next year. Losing Miller, Gibbs, Calhoun and Purvis (likely) will create some big voids. Regardless of the knocks on Purvis and Gibbs, they produce much more than the freshmen will. Purvis is productive, Gibbs scores and Calhoun has given us defense, energy and several key baskets. I expect a bit of a long improvement curve in a lot of ways. Just as Jalen is a junior and presumed star of the team and the big freshman class become sophomores, we'll lose Amida and Hamilton. We need another strong class after this incoming one badly to get where we want to be. I tend to think the recruiting restrictions we had hurt quite a bit and we are two years from shaking off the effect.
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Where do you see Purvis going exactly? An undersized two guard who has no intermediate game and can't make layups isn't going to get drafted. I'm being serious, do you think he'll leave to go to Europe?
 
Paesano said:
I think they are related. Let's say we barely make, or miss, the tournament this year and the same happens next year. That would be three bad to mediocre seasons in a row. That, especially if it is three NCAA tournament misses in a row, might be enough to ask for major program changes. It might even justify a head coach change. However, if he had a Top 10, unanimous 5 star, level recruit coming in, that might justify giving him one more year to reverse course with the assumption being that this kid is immediate impact material.
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You just pile crazy on top of crazy.
 
tentoes4rings said:
Where do you see Purvis going exactly? An undersized two guard who has no intermediate game and can't make layups isn't going to get drafted. I'm being serious, do you think he'll leave to go to Europe?
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Yes, he's old and he'll make good money overseas. He could come back next year if he wants to graduate and needs the year to accomplish that. Otherwise, he should go earn and save ASAP. He'll make a lot more money per year in Europe than he'll make with a degree here. The clock is ticking and he's got to know he isn't an NBA player at this point.
 
tentoes4rings said:
Where do you see Purvis going exactly? An undersized two guard who has no intermediate game and can't make layups isn't going to get drafted. I'm being serious, do you think he'll leave to go to Europe?
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I think that's actually the general consensus around here. Another year isn't going to make him into an NBA player so why not get paid now?
 
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