SF/PF Wenyen Gabriel (Kentucky Commit)

[husky99]

http://borgesblognhr.blogspot.com/2015/09/uconn-recruiting-profile-wenyen-gabriel.html?m=1

 

[Drame]

You are radically underestimating the value of an athletic 7 footer.

I wouldn't take Brimah before the 2nd round at this point. He's the worst 7 ft rebounder I think I've seen. He needs to score more from 15 ft and in. He can't handle contact at all. He needs to step away from the hoop and shoot over people.

 

[huskiesNhoos]

I hope the lack of going after several 2s and 5s is a statement that KO feels good about Diallo & Brown

I was going to post a new thread about this but might as well just tack it on here.

Pretty much since KO took charge he's not really recruited any sg's. For 2015-2017 Diallo is the only one he's really gone after hard. Sure he's offered a few, but then didn't really recruit them, and it's not because we have a bunch of guards already (likely only adams, Gilbert, and SCII for 2016).

Seems like KO is basically not recruiting the sg position and is opting for versatile pg's that can run the offense and score instead. Just look at 2017, we have only Diallo offered for sg, and like 10 offers at pg

 

[FASTEDDY]

Borges out of his mind with his stupid comment about UCONN being out of its league with those other schools?

 

[superjohn]

I don't agree with Borges's grouping:



Power-five or not, we're closer to Maryland in terms of prestige (I'd say above them, but certainly not "out of its league") than to Providence.

Really dumb statement by Borges, Power-5 or not we are way ahead of Maryland in accomplishments and prestige.

 

[Matrim55]

He's in the media guide at 245. He'll play plenty of minutes at the pivot.

And it's worth noting that 1) he lacks the lateral quickness to guard on the perimeter like Deandre did, and 2) he's got a big ole' butt, which will be great for carving out rebounding position underneath, as well as moving guys off the block defensively.

I'll wager right now that Enoch sees many more minutes at the 5 in his UConn career than the 4.

 

[Marat]

Really dumb statement by Borges, Power-5 or not we are way ahead of Maryland in accomplishments and prestige.

Bad statement by Borges.... but wondering if he is just referring to recruiting. We know UK and Duke get their McD's, but UMD got Stone....

 

[HuskyCLT]

Can't love this quote for us, but we'll see:

"It probably wouldn’t be a great fit if someone had four or five guys coming in at 3-4 position."

 

[BLUEDOGHOUSE]

I watch a lot of NBA, more so than college ball outside of UConn. With that said, I honestly do not think Brimah has what it takes to play in the NBA. He is an shot-blocking specialist and that's about it. Team aren't going to use a roster spot on a guy who is physically weak, barely averaged 5 rebounds a game against college competition, doesn't really have any 1-on-1 moves or a general offensive game. He is a liability at the NBA level when he is on the court outside of his shot blocking, and with the trend towards small ball he is even less coveted. Guys like Gorgui Deing are the exception not the rule, plus Deing is physically built and can actually rebound.

I would be SHOCKED if Amidah wasn't a 4 year player and I'd be just as surprised to see him go in the first round. I could see someone using a second rounder on him just because he's 7 feet tall though, but he likely wouldn't see the court.

If you are AB...I think you have to gauge whether or not you have a legit shot at a guaranteed contract by leaving early (1st rd/2016). Regardless of how that shakes out...the next obvious question becomes does his stock rise in the eyes of GM's by staying his Sr. year? I haven't researched it but my guess is there are rare exceptions to the general rule that the older you are (23 in AB's case if stays 4 yrs) the more difficult it is to increase your value as a draft prospect. Statistically using past history as the marker. Just taking a quick look at DraftXpress for the sole purposes of looking at the potential 2016 draft prospects it is pretty clear it won't be an easy road to the 1st round for AB. It is still a very attainable goal however with a solid 2015-16 performance. So the wait and see approach (above) certainly is reasonable in the case of AB. I don't think even at 22 (end Jr. year) AB will have reached his ceiling. So an NBA team may find good value in that before the 2016 draft and select AB in the 1st round. KO & Co. will advise him well. Hopefully he is gone after this year. That means his development most likely will coincide with another Final4 run. jmho

 

[HuskyCLT]

I wouldn't take Brimah before the 2nd round at this point. He's the worst 7 ft rebounder I think I've seen. He needs to score more from 15 ft and in. He can't handle contact at all. He needs to step away from the hoop and shoot over people.

Sorry to continue this hijacking of the Gabriel thread, but:
I'm willing to bet he vastly improves in all areas this year. If he needs to take a 4th year, even better for him playing in the NBA. Time to get a little bulk, work on a few offensive moves. Somebody is going to take a chance on a very athletic 7 footer in the draft - and one of the best shot blockers in the nation. I think Amida has a nice touch with the ball and once he gets more comfortable making moves to get his shot off, it will look very nice. Could be for us, could develop in the NBA. I think he's a beast.

 

[BLUEDOGHOUSE]

Sorry to continue this hijacking of the Gabriel thread, but:
I'm willing to bet he vastly improves in all areas this year. If he needs to take a 4th year, even better for him playing in the NBA. Time to get a little bulk, work on a few offensive moves. Somebody is going to take a chance on a very athletic 7 footer in the draft - and one of the best shot blockers in the nation. I think Amida has a nice touch with the ball and once he gets more comfortable making moves to get his shot off, it will look very nice. Could be for us, could develop in the NBA. I think he's a beast.

That is a fair point as it relates to the WG thread. My bad and I won't address that issue anymore.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

That is a fair point as it relates to the WG thread. My bad and I won't address that issue anymore.

You and @HuskyCLT, this was seriously impressive. I don't think I've ever seen a tangent like this end in anything less than 40 pages of unrelated arguments but this one was addressed and shut down immediately. Good work!

 

[DogMania]

Enoch is 6'10 with a wingspan of over 7ft, also looks to be at least 230lbs, he can play C

I agree.

 

[Dynasty]

Apparently, Duke will be up at W&M on Tuesday to see Gabriel. Seems like they aren't slowing down their pursuit.

 

[HooperScooper]

Apparently, Duke will be up at W&M on Tuesday to see Gabriel. Seems like they aren't slowing down their pursuit.

Yup. Looks like they're putting on the full press.

 

[Thirty Three]

I agree.

I'm pretty sure that was your shortest post ever. You feeling OK?

 

[David 76]

Enoch is 6'10 with a wingspan of over 7ft, also looks to be at least 230lbs, he can play C

I know his height Ace, and I know he likes playing outside a bit. Do you have a reason other than his height that makes you say that? PN is tall too.

 

[CallMeBruce]

I know his height Ace, and I know he likes playing outside a bit. Do you have a reason other than his height that makes you say that? PN is tall too.

And Nolan has played almost exclusively at center for us. What's your point?

I only saw Enoch a few times last season at STM, but I don't think I ever saw him playing anywhere but center.

 

[aceboon]

I know his height Ace, and I know he likes playing outside a bit. Do you have a reason other than his height that makes you say that? PN is tall too.

because on tape he looks reasonably athletic, and as it was pointed out he's listed over 240lbs in the media guide. 6'10, wingspan of 7ft+, decent athleticism, 240+ and can possibly get bigger, that screams college C to me. I know a good percentage of the board operates under the impression that college centers are over 7 feet tall and weigh 280lbs, but its not that the case. I think Nolan is better served playing mostly C as well, his problem is he's not all that talented. Enoch projects to be better, lets hope that comes to fruition.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Just saying, if Dook gets this class... Everyone should quit... I mean holy...

 

[David 76]

And Nolan has played almost exclusively at center for us. What's your point?

I only saw Enoch a few times last season at STM, but I don't think I ever saw him playing anywhere but center.

My point, Bruce, is that I would not want Nolan to be our starting center and maybe height alone does not make a center. I thought that was pretty obvious.

 

[Matrim55]

View attachment 10661 Just saying, if Dook gets this class... Everyone should quit... I mean holy...

Meh. I like our roster just fine compared to that, as long as we add a couple of shooters.

 

[tcf15]

My point, Bruce, is that I would not want Nolan to be our starting center and maybe height alone does not make a center. I thought that was pretty obvious.

Ace gave you height, weight and wingspan - three areas that factor into where he will likely play. Not sure why you chose to focus solely on height.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Meh. I like our roster just fine compared to that, as long as we add a couple of shooters.

I like our roster too. That being said, K coaching that incoming squad of freshman, plus whatever they have coming back, would be ridiculous. There's no way they'd all stay committed, but it's just crazy to think about...

 

[Matrim55]

My point, Bruce, is that I would not want Nolan to be our starting center...

He started as a sophomore for a team that won the national championship.

I'm pretty ok with Nolan being our starting center as long as he's healthy and has an adequate back-up. He's much better as a 5 than as a 4.