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Setting up to be a 7 Seed

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The NET and KenPom will help but we heading to a middle of the pack seed and potentially will have to beat a one seed to make it out of the first weekend. At 14-0 it was starting to feel like final-four and since, elite-elite, sixteen to now winning a single tournament game. If nothing else, I have learned Santa Clause isn’t real this season.
 
At this point as long as we aren’t in the 8-9 game I’m ok. I think the Hurley and the staff watch a lot of film in the off week and redefine our “identity”. Get buy in to take Adama out to the top and give Hawkins and Newton much more space to drive. I think we go on a run and play our way into a 4-6 seed with play in the BET.

Seeding won’t matter if we are playing like a top 10-15 team in March with a true go to player. We will be a nightmare matchup for a lot of teams especially non BE teams. Feel a lot better after the last two games.
 
Kind of expected 6-8 seed at start of year, but after our start it does feel super disappointing.

But here's to playing like they did in the second half of last night's game the rest of the year
 
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Billy Jack said:
Exactly. Right now we’re a 2-seed. I don’t know what posts which say what “we’re heading for . . .” mean. I think it’s just fans who are discouraged and are fearing the worst. Fear is our enemy right now.
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We are a five or six seed right now. We are nowhere near a two-seed.
 
Billy Jack said:
Exactly. Right now we’re a 2-seed. I don’t know what posts which say what “we’re heading for . . .” mean. I think it’s just fans who are discouraged and are fearing the worst. Fear is our enemy right now.
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We are not anywhere near a 2 seed, nor will we be unless we drop at most one more regular season game and win the BET. Right now we're as likely to miss the tournament as to grab a two seed. Those metrics listed above are great but we're 2-6 in our last 8 and we have almost certainly have 2-4 more losses in the regular season.
 
At this point I just want to get in the tournament and win 1 game. I think that’s very reasonable and it gets the monkey off the back for Hurley and the program. Need to adjust and I think we need to play sanogo on the perimeter a little more, setting pick and roll/pop screens, he’s shooting well enough to aim to shoot 2-3 3’s a game as of right now. Need to get Newton and Hawkins playing downhill more and focus on running offense for them. Toy with more zone d for the season and I think that should be doable. Can’t go far relying on post ups, a dying art in a sport becoming predicted on offensive efficiency.
 
shizzle787 said:
We are a five or six seed right now. We are nowhere near a two-seed.
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That's in line with what DeCourcy said last night during PC halftime. He would have us a #5 seed.
 
Just win one NCAA game to start. Just one. After the recent tumble seeding is becoming more important to winning that initial contest
 
NowInStorrs said:
A 2 seed that's about to drop out of the rankings?
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Rankings are meaningless and are nit part of the seeding criteria. NCAA Net is and right now they have us ranked #7. That’s a 2-seed. Maybe the committee drops us to a 3 or even a 4, but they’ll start with us as a 2.

To make the argument that we’re a 5, 6, or 7, those posters are going to explain who the teams are who have better credentials than we do. Seedlings aren’t made in the abstract. There’s a context.
 
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i just dont wanna be the 4/5 in purdue or houston's region. otherwise dont care if we're a 4, 5, 6, or 7 seed.

all the other 1, 2, and 3 seeds are interchangeable.
 
nadavtheman said:
Remarkably we are still #7 in NET and #6 in Kenpom after last night. That will help seeding a lot.
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9 BE games to go....really need the home wins against Prov & Marquette and to avoid bad home losses to keep those high Metrics ranks. The metrics don't translate to a 2 seed right now despite what some may think....a 5 seed seems right imo.

I would say a 2 seed is the absolute ceiling if go 8-1 rest of way depending on what the current 1 & 2's do. The most likely outcome based on the mediocdre way we're paying right now is probably a 11-9 BE finsish and a 4-5 seed. Can we go 6-3 the rest of way is the question.

The perfect 11-0 non-conf record with the high quality neutral & road wins ( Bama / IA St / FL on road / OR ) keeps us in the Tourney barring a complete collapse which is very unlikely.
 
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Billy Jack said:
Rankings are meaningless and are nit part of the seeding criteria. NCAA Net is and right now they have us ranked #7. That’s a 2-seed. Maybe the committee drops us to a 3 or even a 4, but they’ll start with us as a 2.

To make the argument that we’re a 5, 6, or 7, those posters are going to explain who the teams are who have better credentials than we do. Seedlings aren’t made in the abstract. There’s a context.
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NET is a major factor they take into account but not the only one. If the tournament started tomorrow UConn is looking at a 5 seed, which is where Lunardi and just about everyone else has us. We beat a couple of the ranked teams left on our schedule and we could get up to a 3 seed with that and winning the BET. We continue playing like we are and we're almost definitely a 7+ seed. Talk about NET all you want, and it is important, but even the committee has come out and said eye test and other factors play a part - nevermind that there's almost no chance we're still NET top ten on this trajectory.
 
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Hi-Low said:
9 BE games to go....really need the home wins against Prov & Marquette and to avoid bad home losses to keep those high Metrics ranks. The metrics don't translate to a 2 seed right now despite what some may think....a 5 seed seems right imo.

I would say a 2 seed is the absolute ceiling if go 8-1 rest of way depending on what the current 1 & 2's do. The most likely outcome based on the mediocdre way we're paying right now is probably a 11-9 BE finsish and a 4-5 seed. Can we go 6-3 the rest of way is the question.

The perfect 11-0 non-conf record with the high quality neutral & road wins ( Bama / IA St / FL on road / OR ) keeps us in the Tourney barring a complete collapse which is very unlikely.
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8 and 1 the rest of the way? The weed dispensaries must be open in Ct.
 
Billy Jack said:
Rankings are meaningless and are nit part of the seeding criteria. NCAA Net is and right now they have us ranked #7. That’s a 2-seed. Maybe the committee drops us to a 3 or even a 4, but they’ll start with us as a 2.

To make the argument that we’re a 5, 6, or 7, those posters are going to explain who the teams are who have better credentials than we do. Seedlings aren’t made in the abstract. There’s a context.
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They are nowhere near a 2 seed as of today. From the NCAA website:

“The NET is one of many resources/tools available to the committee in the selection, seeding and bracketing process. Computer models cannot accurately evaluate qualitative factors such as games missed by key players or coaches, travel difficulties and other effects of specific games.

Each committee member independently evaluates a vast amount of information during the process to make individual decisions. It is these qualitative, quantitative and subjective opinions -- developed after hours of personal observations, discussion with coaches, directors of athletics and commissioners, and review and comparison of various data -- that each individual ultimately will determine their vote on all issues related to selections, seeding and bracketing.”

NET is part of the process but it is not the tipping scale factor or end all be all factor. UConn has regressed as the season has progressed. Their seeding will be hurt by this regardless of what their NET is as of today. If they go on a run and turn things around they can most definitely improve their chances of being a 2 seed but that’s a long ways away as of today and how they have performed over the past month
 
jibsey said:
8 and 1 the rest of the way? The weed dispensaries must be open in Ct.
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I said 8-1 best case scenario if wanted 2 seed. I also said more likely 6-3 or worse. Maybe you're the high one with the reading comprehension ;)
 
Billy Jack said:
Exactly. Right now we’re a 2-seed. I don’t know what posts which say what “we’re heading for . . .” mean. I think it’s just fans who are discouraged and are fearing the worst. Fear is our enemy right now.
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Totally agree.

It's January. Things will change all across the college basketball between now and then.

But, this holds some weight:

 
We have to finish the BE regular season with a winning record. That has to be the focus. We have lost 2 home games and won 1 road game. No looking to March BS as if we have a losing BE record March is out.
 
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Hi-Low said:
I said 8-1 best case scenario if wanted 2 seed. I also said more likely 6-3 or worse. Maybe you're the high one with the reading comprehension ;)
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To even put that as a best case after what we have witnessed lately is not realistic and 6-3 seems unlikely but I like you hope for the best.
 
Colin G said:
At this point I just want to get in the tournament and win 1 game. I think that’s very reasonable and it gets the monkey off the back for Hurley and the program. Need to adjust and I think we need to play sanogo on the perimeter a little more, setting pick and roll/pop screens, he’s shooting well enough to aim to shoot 2-3 3’s a game as of right now. Need to get Newton and Hawkins playing downhill more and focus on running offense for them. Toy with more zone d for the season and I think that should be doable. Can’t go far relying on post ups, a dying art in a sport becoming predicted on offensive efficiency.
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What if we win the BE tournament but lose first round of the dance?
 
methodology said:
They are nowhere near a 2 seed as of today. From the NCAA website:

“The NET is one of many resources/tools available to the committee in the selection, seeding and bracketing process. Computer models cannot accurately evaluate qualitative factors such as games missed by key players or coaches, travel difficulties and other effects of specific games.

Each committee member independently evaluates a vast amount of information during the process to make individual decisions. It is these qualitative, quantitative and subjective opinions -- developed after hours of personal observations, discussion with coaches, directors of athletics and commissioners, and review and comparison of various data -- that each individual ultimately will determine their vote on all issues related to selections, seeding and bracketing.”

NET is part of the process but it is not the tipping scale factor or end all be all factor. UConn has regressed as the season has progressed. Their seeding will be hurt by this regardless of what their NET is as of today. If they go on a run and turn things around they can most definitely improve their chances of being a 2 seed but that’s a long ways away as of today and how they have performed over the past month
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They have said that a win or loss in November counts as much as a win or loss in March. They no longer give weight to the last 10 games. Whether they’ve regressed in January is irrelevant. What will matter is what they do between now and selection Sunday. And the toughest part of their schedule is now behind them.
 
Billy Jack said:
Exactly. Right now we’re a 2-seed. I don’t know what posts which say what “we’re heading for . . .” mean. I think it’s just fans who are discouraged and are fearing the worst. Fear is our enemy right now.
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::nic cage gif::
 
Billy Jack said:
They have said that a win or loss in November counts as much as a win or loss in March. They no longer give weight to the last 10 games. Whether they’ve regressed in January is irrelevant. What will matter is what they do between now and selection Sunday. And the toughest part of their schedule is now behind them.
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They say a lot of things. doesn't mean they are all true.
 
Billy Jack said:
They have said that a win or loss in November counts as much as a win or loss in March. They no longer give weight to the last 10 games. Whether they’ve regressed in January is irrelevant. What will matter is what they do between now and selection Sunday. And the toughest part of their schedule is now behind them.
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You buy powerball and mega millions tickets every week and are convinced you get jackpot. Amirite?
 
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