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Stagnant said:
Peacock had technical difficulties to start the third quarter. So, I got a taste of non-commentary basketball. And it was kind of enjoyable tbh 😂
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To taste non-commentary basketball whenever you want, press that mute button on your remote. Works very well. 😄
 
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BobbyJ said:
This regular season cake walk isn't the test. If there's a drop off, it'll be seen in the last 3 rounds of the NC tournament. That's where her biggest value was, the safety valve.
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I don't believe skeets meant NCAA Tourney. IMO there were some fans that didn't think the reg season would be as good too.

If we are to look at only those 3 games, then arguably there never was a team greater than last year. But I don't think that was his point.
 
donalddoowop said:
What is it if not sputtering? That is what many fans are complaining about. When UConn starts playing to their potential you will see the number of missed layups and free throws drop and three-point shooting overall, improve. Their long scoring droughts will disappear.
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Its pushing pace of play. Sure they can play better. But when you press and play at such a fast pace in which a lot of your offense is 3pt shooting, they will struggle at times with this pace. They aren't pros. Think of what Geno said about Blanca and expanding it; he said I'll accept the bad plays because there are are so much more amazing plays coming from her. It's the same when they press, they will accept the open shots by the other team because in the long run they expect many more positive defensive plays vs open shots. You live with the droughts when you are playing this fast and this efficiently..

If they can't push pace then they will look more to have their super players take the shots. Azzi taking just 8 shots while she was shooting very well is a clear example.
 
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oldude said:
A long time ago, a single play-by-play announcer did the entire game without the assistance of 1-2 color commentators, sideline reporters or a pre & postgame studio crew. Some of the very best announcers in sports like Red Barber, Lindsey Allen, Keith Jackson & Marv Albert all got their start as solitary sports reporters.
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MSGRET said:
I blame it all on Dickie V, baby! He blew out the traditional broadcasting.
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The gabfest/chattering dynamic indeed started when more than one person was added to the announcing booth. In addition to and before the solitary announcers listed by Oldude, I grew up with Marty Glickman in the NYC area announcing high school, college and pro games, both on radio and TV. He was the best, and the Syracuse Newhouse announcing award is named after him.

The "gabbing two or three" began with football. The first I recall were Curt Gowdy and Paul Christman (later Al DeRogatis) in the early 60s for the AFL and NFL. Then, in 1970, came the chattering, jiving duo of Howard Cosell and Dandy Don Meredith teamed with Keith Jackson/Frank Gifford on Monday Night Football.

In basketball, it began in the late 70s with bantering Al McGuire and Billy Packer co-coloring with Dick Enberg on NBC and later CBS. Soon after, cometh Diaper Dandy V.

Ever since, announcing teams seemingly have been directed to provide nonstop "entertainment" instead of just game information.

The best-called UConn regular season contest in my memory was an early 2000s away game at VPI during a snowstorm. Megan Culmo's flight got stuck, so Bob Picozzi called the game alone brilliantly. He covered all on-court details, almost like radio, and included occasional pertinent color comments. Picozzi remains my favorite UConn play-by-play announcer.
 
Grandpa is getting soft in his old age…
RockyMTblue2 said:
Geno said he and Blanca had a long session (film?) very recently, but he did not want to go too hard on stuff that might get in her head and slow her down. Then he said something along the lines of living with a mistake for the 10 things that are amazing.
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hoophuskee said:
I don't believe skeets meant NCAA Tourney. IMO there were some fans that didn't think the reg season would be as good too.

If we are to look at only those 3 games, then arguably there never was a team greater than last year. But I don't think that was his point.
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I wasn't talking about which team was better. The point is the difference between having Bueckers or not. I'm saying that if her absence is going to be felt, it would be during the most critical games of the year when the potential for actually losing would be the highest against the best teams in the country. That she was the ultimate difference maker IF they had really needed her in a close game, which of course it turned out that they didn't. I've got a feeling that they may need that rock steady confidence and clutch play this season if/when it comes down to those last 3 games.
 
oldude said:
Speak for yourself. There are many UConn fans that are also BIG fans of WBB, who watch lots of teams play. Today, in addition to watching the NFL playoffs, I also plan to watch the other undefeated team, Vanderbilt, against SC.
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Me, too. And I’m watching MI v USC before the Vandy game!
 
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BobbyJ said:
This regular season cake walk isn't the test. If there's a drop off, it'll be seen in the last 3 rounds of the NC tournament. That's where her biggest value was, the safety valve.
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Remind me, who was the final 4 MOP? ;^)
 
JRRRJ said:
Remind me, who was the final 4 MOP? ;^)
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Read it again. Didn’t say she was an MOP. Said she was the safety valve in case she was needed. We’ll see if they need one this year.
 
oldude said:
I’ve written about this before. A long time ago, a single play-by-play announcer did the entire game without the assistance of 1-2 color commentators, sideline reporters or a pre & postgame studio crew. Some of the very best announcers in sports like Red Barber, Lindsey Allen, Keith Jackson & Marv Albert all got their start as solitary sports reporters.

Through the years, there was a relentless push to add more reporters to sports broadcasts. The problem is that all these additional reporters need to justify their paychecks by talking. The end result is that the reporting teams get lost in the tall grass, talking ad nauseum about background stories, personal nonsense and whatever comes into their head, losing the play-by-play call of the game.
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Spot on (as always).

I wish there was more dead air time on the broadcasts. If nothing else, it would give me much needed relief. Yeah, I know, I could turn the sound off, but I keep it on in the hope, often dashed, that they actually report who the last foul was on.

I think they are deathly afraid of dead air time. Red Barber certainly was not. Less is more. Nice to hear the crowd reactions from time to time. And if you are going to go on a tangent, play pretend coach, extoll the virtues of a particular player, etc., don't drone on and on - in most cases, you can get in and out of it in 25 words or less. Not that hard.

And a brief mention is fine, but we aren't all that interested in your playing/coaching career. For example, Bill Raftery, one of the best in the business IMHO, will refer briefly and vaguely to his undistinguished coaching career with a humorous, self-deprecating comment or two, and that is it.

I am fine with two (but not three) on a broadcast, as long as they are good at it and don't go overboard in trying to create "chemistry" at the expense of missing what is happening on the court. With all of the games being played and broadcast, I'm not sure there are enough good ones to go around.
 
Huskee11 said:
Spot on (as always).

I wish there was more dead air time on the broadcasts. If nothing else, it would give me much needed relief. Yeah, I know, I could turn the sound off, but I keep it on in the hope, often dashed, that they actually report who the last foul was on.

I think they are deathly afraid of dead air time. Red Barber certainly was not. Less is more. Nice to hear the crowd reactions from time to time. And if you are going to go on a tangent, play pretend coach, extoll the virtues of a particular player, etc., don't drone on and on - in most cases, you can get in and out of it in 25 words or less. Not that hard.

And a brief mention is fine, but we aren't all that interested in your playing/coaching career. For example, Bill Raftery, one of the best in the business IMHO, will refer briefly and vaguely to his undistinguished coaching career with a humorous, self-deprecating comment or two, and that is it.

I am fine with two (but not three) on a broadcast, as long as they are good at it and don't go overboard in trying to create "chemistry" at the expense of missing what is happening on the court. With all of the games being played and broadcast, I'm not sure there are enough good ones to go around.
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Earlier today I watched the Syracuse - UNC game played in Durham and televised on the ACC network. Due to bad weather, very few fans made the game, maybe a few hundred. Apparently, the announcers didn’t make it either. But there was a camera crew and PA system that played music during timeouts, etc.

Great game that UNC won in OT. It was also a pleasure to watch with absolutely no one commenting about anything…..
 
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I think we have to remember, and has Geno has said many times, having an undefeated season and winning the NCAA is hard. There are going to be stretches of games (and maybe entire games) when it won't be pretty. However, they are doing what they need to do to win, and except for Michigan, win comfortably. Based on the box score, it was a pretty efficient game on offense. Yeah, Seton Hall scored a few more points that I expected, but you can't play a perfect game every time you hit the floor.
 
donalddoowop said:
I watched St John look every bit as good as UConn did in beating Villanova. I have watched every good team out there and even some of the weaker teams. How else can one make fair comparisons?
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It’s great to watch as many games as possible. But relative to St Johns, they beat Nova by 13. UConn beat Nova by 49.
 
BobbyJ said:
I wasn't talking about which team was better. The point is the difference between having Bueckers or not. I'm saying that if her absence is going to be felt, it would be during the most critical games of the year when the potential for actually losing would be the highest against the best teams in the country. That she was the ultimate difference maker IF they had really needed her in a close game, which of course it turned out that they didn't. I've got a feeling that they may need that rock steady confidence and clutch play this season if/when it comes down to those last 3 games.
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I agree with you. I just didn't think that was what skeets was saying. But yes ofc Paige would be an amazing safety net. It's just that during this reg season this team is better. The last 3 games from E8 to fianls if they get there? I doubt this team will be better dtstidtically. But whether we talk "micro" or "macro" - last night was just another tremendous game. I've always been a short bench advocate - but this year other than Sarah and Azzi, but this year as for everyone else, overall we're just so damn good. There just isn't much dropoff with the others where in the past I thought it was pretty big.

Yesterday was just another microcosm of the season. Near 2-1 assist vs to's. shooting 77.4% from 2, and 37.9% from 3, 16 steals, 4 blocks, all terrific.
 
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JRRRJ said:
You don't think last year's MOP can provide a safety valve if needed?
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I'm not sure. Maybe you'll get a chance to find out if and when the pressure is on. Last year's stats in a couple of blowouts don't guarantee anything.
 
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