Seton Hall Post Game Thread

[Husky Alien]

"Affect" is correct... What point were you trying to make with that?

Affect" is usually a verb that means "to influence" or "to impact", while "effect" is usually a noun that means "the result" or "the consequence".

 

[Leebo]

Affect" is usually a verb that means "to influence" or "to impact", while "effect" is usually a noun that means "the result" or "the consequence".

I know.

 

[REB1094]

Great games from Solo, Karaban, and HAPPY SENIOR NIGHT TO SAMSON JOHNSON! I’d say he’s just put together 2 of the best games of his career these last two games

Solid games off the bench from Stewart, Mahaney, and Tarris as well. Loved seeing those threes go in for Aidan

Can’t overreact on these last two games because they’ve been against BE bottomfeeders, but we’ve been looking pretty good the last week

On to March, let’s go Huskies!

 

[huskyjawz]

There was a play today in the first half when Ross went out on a 3 point Hall shooter in the corner and instead of jumping and fouling he put his arm up and let the Hall player shoot. That is a huge improvement in situational awareness. Saw this from other players as well. We have a small window to win games vs top level teams and not giving away points will give us a chance to survive and advance.

What I saw was that he ran out and did not put his hands up and the guy drained the three. Horrible defense.

 

[jdb50]

So it’s ok to give someone a wide open shot ? I coached high school for 11 years and been a basketball junkie since the 60’s and I never knew that.

No. He did not jump up on the close out and wind up landing near the shooter and giving them 3 foul shots. He was too far away to block the shot and knew it. This is an improvement for him and us.

 

[ctchamps]

Great games from Solo, Karaban, and HAPPY SENIOR NIGHT TO SAMSON JOHNSON! I’d say he’s just put together 2 of the best games of his career these last two games

Solid games off the bench from Stewart, Mahaney, and Tarris as well. Loved seeing those threes go in for Aidan

Can’t overreact on these last two games because they’ve been against BE bottomfeeders, but we’ve been looking pretty good the last week

On to March, let’s go Huskies!

When did Marquette become a bottom feeder?

 

[willie99]

When did Marquette become a bottom feeder?

It's the Yard dontchaknow

 

[Chin Diesel]

See what a four-game winning streak does?

We are now free to discuss fasting as it relates to athletic performance, and overall diet and weight control.

Grammer police can freely debate "affect" or "effect" as if affectively using words effects team performance.

 

[ctchamps]

What I saw was that he ran out and did not put his hands up and the guy drained the three. Horrible defense.

He went for the blocked shot and left his man wide open because he didn’t calculate the ball would be tipped to his player. Typically he would have run recklessly towards the shooter and fouled. The alternative was to avoid this.

"Love" that no one is talking about his drive towards the basket and feeding a cutting Liam for a basket. That was a heads up play.

 

[REB1094]

When did Marquette become a bottom feeder?

For some reason I thought it was MU, PC, then Seton Hall lol. Oops!

 

[lonsharkin51]

Love that no one is talking about his drive towards the basket and feeding a cutting Liam for a basket. That was a heads up play.

It was, and credit to Jayden for making the pass, but if Liam hadn't made a great cut to bail him out, it would have been a bonehead play by Jayden where he drove recklessly with no idea what he was going to do and turned the ball over. I really like his energy, but he needs to figure out how to channel it better.

 

[JustbrewitMan]

It was, and credit to Jayden for making the pass, but if Liam hadn't made a great cut to bail him out, it would have been a bonehead play by Jayden where he drove recklessly with no idea what he was going to do and turned the ball over. I really like his energy, but he needs to figure out how to channel it better.

Do you think that cut by Liam wasn’t planned? It’s fairly clear Ross knows that there will be a cutter into the lane as part of the movement of that play. Be a better hoops fan

 

[imno1]

Any idea why Fox has not posted the replay?

 

[lonsharkin51]

Do you think that cut by Liam wasn’t planned? It’s fairly clear Ross knows that there will be a cutter into the lane as part of the movement of that play. Be a better hoops fan

You honestly think Jayden made that drive knowing Liam was going to cut to the basket when he did? If that was the case, great, but it looked to me like Jayden was out of control and got bailed out. Regardless, why do you need to make it into a personal attack on my hoops fandom? Be a better human being.

 

[huskyjawz]

He went for the blocked shot and left his man wide open because he didn’t calculate the ball would be tipped to his player. Typically he would have run recklessly towards the shooter and fouled. The alternative was to avoid this.

Love that no one is talking about his drive towards the basket and feeding a cutting Liam for a basket. That was a heads up play.

I'm thrilled that he made other good plays, but it's hilarious that you think that that was a good defensive play when it resulted in a made uncontested three.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Do you think that cut by Liam wasn’t planned? It’s fairly clear Ross knows that there will be a cutter into the lane as part of the movement of that play. Be a better hoops fan

There is precisely zero chance that was a set play. Hurley is not teaching his guys to drive into a baseline double team. Clearly the team, like any team, is taught in that situation to try to find and opening and cut to the basket. Liam did a good job to recognize that and make himself available and Ross made a nice pass but it was definitely overcoming a bad decision. But that also happens in games and it was good to see Ross able to overcome that bad decision and still make a good play.

 

[HooperScooper]

Hurley made it perfectly clear that social media attacks on players don't help the players. He doesn't care when clueless wonders try to give him advice, but the kids can be negatively impacted. They're still kids.

So while you may not think hurtful words are hurting the kids, Dan Hurley does. For me, it's only common sense, like raising a kid. You try to instill confidence in them, not attack them with uninformed and silly takes. Once again, I agree with coach.

“(Berating) a kid on social media, any of our players,” Hurley said. “The degenerate gamblers that lose are always going to be on there doing their deal and opposing fans always want to take their shots at UConn.

“But our fans need to get behind this kid (Mahaney) and all of our players,” Hurley said. “We need him to play well for us, and if you are (taking shots) at him on Twitter you are not helping us play well for us. You are just being an idiot and you really hurt the team and the program in the process.”

 

[3rdbass]

If Samson continues the way he has played these last 2 games his stock will rise. Imo, if he gets drafted NBA game is more suitable for him. He was known comming out of HS as a shooter that we have not seen here at UConn. We might see it in the tourney though. Hmmm?

Not sure about seeing him as a shooter in the NCAA tourney. A little too late for that but like Lively he just needs to be active near the hoops with NBA athleticism and not show lack of strength by moving his feet which he has done better this year on D.

 

[3rdbass]

Great games from Solo, Karaban, and HAPPY SENIOR NIGHT TO SAMSON JOHNSON! I’d say he’s just put together 2 of the best games of his career these last two games

Solid games off the bench from Stewart, Mahaney, and Tarris as well. Loved seeing those threes go in for Aidan

Can’t overreact on these last two games because they’ve been against BE bottomfeeders, but we’ve been looking pretty good the last week

On to March, let’s go Huskies!

We just played Marquette on Wednesday. They are far from a bottom feeder.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Ah,the Boneyard. We beat Seton Hall and now Samson is a an NBA player.

Ah, RuffRuff, turning a multi-speculative post that ended with, "Hmmm?" into hard math when nobody but him added it up that way.

 

[ucp990411]

Do you teach players to tackle the shooter?

Either you’re a horrible coach or you’re not a strong reader because that’s not what the dude wrote.

Fishy, have you ever coached? The proper way to close out on a jump shooter is to take smaller steps the closer you get to him and put the opposite hand of the way he shoots in his face, it is basketball 101. In the play in question, Ross took large steps towards to the shooter and barely raised his hands up above his waist, on top of that he was out of position. It was poor defense. Maybe you could attend a coaching clinic to learn about basketball. And I suggest you ask my fellow coaches and the players that played for me before you attempt to judge what kind of coach I was. The poster implied that it was a smart play by Ross. I just pointed out 3 things he did wrong.

 

[RuffRuff]

We just played Marquette on Wednesday. They are far from a bottom feeder.

Did I say that? They’re 4-6 in last 10 and haven’t won a meaningful game since first week of Jan, around same time jones got the yips.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

If Samson continues the way he has played these last 2 games his stock will rise. Imo, if he gets drafted NBA game is more suitable for him. He was known comming out of HS as a shooter that we have not seen here at UConn. We might see it in the tourney though. Hmmm?

If Samson fires of his first 3 pointer of the season in the postseason, something has gone very wrong. Also, love what he has been for this program but he is a LONG way from an NBA player (he’ll definitely make some money playing ball somewhere though).

 

[ctchamps]

I'm thrilled that he made other good plays, but it's hilarious that you think that that was a good defensive play when it resulted in a made uncontested three.

I wrote the following: He went for the blocked shot and left his man wide open because he didn’t calculate the ball would be tipped to his player. Typically he would have run recklessly towards the shooter and fouled. The alternative was to avoid this.

Where do I say allowing your player to make an uncontested three is a good play. The statement I made is that he didn't compound his decision to go after the ball by fouling the shooter once he realized what was happening.

We can debate Ross choice of going after the ball. Was it the correct play. Retrospectively it's obvious it wasn't. However if that ball wasn't tipped to Ross player (a very heads up offensive play) and Seton Hall somehow recovered the ball and scored that would have made the choice to stay with his player the wrong choice.

We have the luxury of watching the birds eye view of the game in progress and picking apart the plays that have negative impacts. Mahaney's pass to Ross that went out of bounds was a bang bang play where Ross chose to cut towards Mahaney instead of staying put. It was the correct choice given the angle Ross was at relative to where Mahaney was trapped. There is no way Mahaney could have anticipated that move given it happened a millisecond prior to his decision to throw to the corner. The same with Stewart's pass to Alex, although the reaction time was slightly slower - perhaps 3 milliseconds after Alex made his move.

Personally I had wished Ross stayed glued to his man. Not because it's the right choice. But because the group think in this forum is to be hypercritical of him and overweigh his mistakes and ignore or not comment about things he does well.

Most of us can take a lesson from how auror discusses plays. He avoids the emotional entanglement most of us fall victim to in evaluating games, plays, players and coaches. The overwhelming majority of posters here and in other forums can't help but want to put down individuals. Critiquing is one thing. But we more often than not want to give payback and hurt someone with our writing. We blame, deride, and write off our own players far too frequently. It's a weakness far greater than any players inability to act correctly. They have to react immediately. We have the choice to get control of our emotions before spewing so much derision and hate.

 

[huskyjawz]

You followed the play more closely than I did. I saw him run out on the shooter, and in my opinion he should have put his hands up to try and defend the shot as best he could. Now with the space the shooter had, he may have made the shot anyway. But there's never a reason playing defense in basketball to not put your hands up.