Seton Hall Post Game Thread

[CardiacAndre7]

Perimeter defense is gonna be a huge issue for this team. Newton is both lackadaisical and slow, Cam is even slower and gets caught ball watching and Solo just fully isn’t there yet.

The half court offense looked like a version from the early Hurley days. The fact is, we have 3 guys that are below average in athleticism and speed for their position. We didn’t pass the ball quick, we were incredibly easy to read and we couldn’t get by anyone.

I genuinely don’t think I saw 1 positive to take from this one. Very, very poor performance all around.

There are a lot of teams like Seton Hall in the Big East. We have one up next. The staff and players weren’t well prepared for this game, so they sure as he l l should be next game.

 

[back2BE4us]

Spencer didn't look prepared physically for this type of game.

 

[RipCity]

Hopefully Clingan is okay. The scare is compounded by how terrible Johnson looked out there.

 

[Fan1978]

Burn the black jerseys

The good -

• Clingan was really impressive when he was out there, but unfortunately that time was limited due to foul trouble. Not all calls today were good calls, but all of his fouls were legit. Hopefully he feels better soon and that injury is nothing serious
• Diarra split a double team, euro stepped past a defender, and hit a reverse layup. That was nice
• I was planning on going to the game but got sick this week so ended up staying home. Seems that worked in my favor

The bad -

• Last year they beat us because we let them get to the hoop instead of forcing them to shoot jumpers. We made the same mistake tonight. Why are we pressuring Seton Hall 25-28 feet from the hoop when they shoot 30%?
• Newton was 2-5 from three. The rest of the team was 2-16
• Castle looked overwhelmed on both ends of the floor, and was visibly frustrated. Did have 2 pretty nasty blocks though
• Crashing the offensive boards is good, but it leads to outmatched fast breaks if it doesn't work. We got smoked on fast breaks
• Seems like nobody really wanted to play after 10 minutes. Major lack of energy and effort for most of the game and they gave up with around 5 minutes left

Disappointing game. I don't even think Seton Hall played really well, we just played horribly. Guess the guys are ready for Christmas

Well summarized, clingan and diarra only bright spots.

Clearly the refs still hate UConn, the what is a foul disparity was ridiculous.

Why cant UConn play zone against a team that cant shoot a 3.

Castle, samson, cam and ball logged worst game of year.

Lack of effort and lack of adjustments on danny

Would someone tell ball that all of his 3 point misses are long

Hope Donovan is okay, I suspect just the same injury flaring up.

Complete lack of effort was very disappointing against an nit team with an insignificant home court advantage

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Bad loss. effort wasn't there. Whatever.

I'm concerned that we aren't playing castle enough; and I'm concerned it's because he missed so much time with the injury.

He looks ready and looks lost at the same time. I think he's a guy that needs to start and play 30mpg to make an impact. I'm worried the staff isn't giving him a big enough green light and enough time to adapt.

No reason he shouldn’t start next game. Better defender, rebounder, passer, driver than Solo, and Solo ain’t even hitting his shots.

 

[UCLJ0211]

A trash performance all the way around, we should just forfeit BE openers.

But wouldn’t our next game then become our opener?

 

[HooperScooper]

I wonder what UConn's record is the last 20 years in the first conference game. Especially the road games. Seems like they lose these almost every time.

 

[husky429]

I genuinely don’t think I saw 1 positive to take from this one. Very, very poor performance all around.

Clingan looked great pre-injury. He was primed for a 20-10-5 w/ a few blocks kind of night.

 

[PAHusky]

Karaban another disappearing act and Newton joined him this time.

Spencer couldn’t do a thing offensively and he’s a traffic cone on defense

If Castle can’t shoot they’re going to have to scheme more up for him on offense as right now he’s doing not much at all on that end.

Johnson looks totally outclassed and has for a few games now.

DH needs to adjust or we’re going to have a similar BE record to last year’s.

Praying DC is ok

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Clingan looked great pre-injury. He was primed for a 20-10-5 w/ a few blocks kind of night.

Oh of course, but Clingans injury overshadowed his positive play.

 

[87Xfer]

Feels worse than any of the losses last year

no

 

[freshler40]

We really need a healthy Clingan. They seemed to roll over once he went out.

SH looked physically bigger at every position. We played small, missed a lot of inside shots and passed like an 8th grade team. This seemed like a street game. Hope Donavon is OK, good to see him back on the bench.

 

[Giddyup5]

Biggest worry. Best case scenario is possibly a bad ankle sprain. Just the fact that he couldn’t get back in the game and was limping fairly bad, I’d be surprised to see him back for at least 4 weeks.

 

[PAHusky]

Bad loss. effort wasn't there. Whatever.

I'm concerned that we aren't playing castle enough; and I'm concerned it's because he missed so much time with the injury.

He looks ready and looks lost at the same time. I think he's a guy that needs to start and play 30mpg to make an impact. I'm worried the staff isn't giving him a big enough green light and enough time to adapt.

He doesn’t deserve to play more at this point. His defense has been good but if he can’t or won’t shoot on offense and he keeps making high school level turnovers what’s the point in playing him more? It’s not that he’s not in a groove he just isn’t an outstanding athlete and every team knows all he can do is drive

 

[gsmooth]

The only important thing that happened tonight was Clingan looked really hurt. Sit him until he really gets well.

We didn't play well or shoot well or handle the ball well.

We should have sagged and mucked up the paint. Bad game plan tonight.

That's what I did not like was the fact they didn't use the game plan they used against Arkansas. I have seen SHall a few games this year-they are not that good offensively and really can't shoot from the outside except of Dawes

 

[temery]

 

[JMick]

No reason he shouldn’t start next game. Better defender, rebounder, passer, driver than Solo, and Solo ain’t even hitting his shots.

Big agree. Castle needs minutes and he needs to start. He got lost a few times on defense but had some great plays too. He's further along than Ball.

Part of me thinks Hurley has been running ball out as the starter because of superstition. Castle feels primed for primetime and just needs to get his legs under himself while Ball is still very much a freshman, freshman.

 

[Shamon30]

I know it didn't matter, but I despise it when we finally put our deep bench guys in, only to have them run out the clock when we're down 15

 

[Shamon30]

Karaban another disappearing act and Newton joined him this time.

Spencer couldn’t do a thing offensively and he’s a traffic cone on defense

If Castle can’t shoot they’re going to have to scheme more up for him on offense as right now he’s doing not much at all on that end.

Johnson looks totally outclassed and has for a few games now.

DH needs to adjust or we’re going to have a similar BE record to last year’s.

Praying DC is ok

Johnson is borderline unplayable in half court games.

 

[back2BE4us]

I'm completely fine with the result. Weaknesses were exposed early:

• Had to have Samson play a key second half role
• Exposed Cam's lack of foot speed and strength
• Exposed Castle's inability as a Dec freshman to attempt to take over a game
• Exposed the need for Ball as a huge minute contributor with total skill package

There's more but that's the gist. It's a good thing. First conf game, on the road, with Clingan on the bench. No worries.

 

[soggy dog]

I guess we can stop talking about going undefeated in conference play this year.

Who the hell was talking about that lmao?

 

[navery12]

Big agree. Castle needs minutes and he needs to start. He got lost a few times on defense but had some great plays too. He's further along than Ball.

Part of me thinks Hurley has been running ball out as the starter because of superstition. Castle feels primed for primetime and just needs to get his legs under himself while Ball is still very much a freshman, freshman.

Hopefully he does start next game, whether it's the minutes restriction gone or superstition. But he also hasn't looked great, he was -18 in 20 minutes tonight. He's also obviously one of the 5 most talented players so the change needs to happen

 

[Khal Drogo]

Big agree. Castle needs minutes and he needs to start. He got lost a few times on defense but had some great plays too. He's further along than Ball.

Part of me thinks Hurley has been running ball out as the starter because of superstition. Castle feels primed for primetime and just needs to get his legs under himself while Ball is still very much a freshman, freshman.

Kept on waiting for Castle to impress. Didn’t happen.