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Seton Hall doing it again.

HeGotGame said:
Mizzu is sandwiched between App St and UMass on Kenpom, they are not good.

SH BE performance has been great but their non conference was terrible, it's gonna be a stretch to get them ranked this week but they are headed in the right direction.
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They will be ranked. If they aren’t I will jump in the snow with my bathing suit.
 
jibsey said:
We lost to SH and nearly to St. John’s. Can anyone here admit that these teams on any given night can be good? These “upsets” are going to happen all season. The preseason idea of all the top teams in the BE is not going to hold up it seems.
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BE is a gauntlet and no one is safe on any given night. These kids can all play and it gets tough on the road.
 
jibsey said:
We lost to SH and nearly to St. John’s. Can anyone here admit that these teams on any given night can be good? These “upsets” are going to happen all season. The preseason idea of all the top teams in the BE is not going to hold up it seems.
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We had to muck it up to beat the Johnnies who have been scoring some points in many of their other games. It’s the Big East, bring it every night or crap happens.
 
So Marquette, Villanova and Providence go down. 4 teams atop the BE at 3 - 1.

The BE is going to be a battle all season. Let's hope UConn can whether the gauntlet. I believe they can and will.

As to the polls - my guess is Providence drops and and Creighton moves in - again. Marquette drops out of the top 10. Both Seton Hall and St. John's receive votes.
 
jibsey said:
We lost to SH and nearly to St. John’s. Can anyone here admit that these teams on any given night can be good? These “upsets” are going to happen all season. The preseason idea of all the top teams in the BE is not going to hold up it seems.
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100%
since when has any season turned out the way anyone has predicted? In a sport that relies on young athletes (many under 20) who are such wild cards, how can we expect to know what's gonna happen?
 
huskeynut said:
So Marquette, Villanova and Providence go down. 4 teams atop the BE at 3 - 1.

The BE is going to be a battle all season. Let's hope UConn can whether the gauntlet. I believe they can and will.

As to the polls - my guess is Providence drops and and Creighton moves in - again. Marquette drops out of the top 10. Both Seton Hall and St. John's receive votes.
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Creighton beat hobbled PC and horrible GTown and has still lost 3 of 6. At this point I’d be less surprised if SH or the Johnnies were ranked than them. I don’t think any of them deserve it but I suspect SH has the best shot due to recency bias.
 
They are a team that feeds off mistakes, and relies on momentum. They also rely on refs letting them play a physical defense where they get away with fouls not called, to create the pressure and force the turnovers they need to win. They could beat anyone in Big East, but also will have head scratching losses, when teams don’t turn ball over, or refs call fouls when they manhandle people on defense. I doubt they will be able to win consistently enough to get into top 25.
 
Waquoit said:
They just beat the best two teams in the league. What overreaction?
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They’re 3-1 in a 20 game season with horrible out of conference losses. The odds are very much in favor of them having way out performed what they will do the rest of the season. If you really feel like they are the team to beat in the league, I’d be happy to put money on the other side of that.
 
BGesus4 said:
They’re 3-1 in a 20 game season with horrible out of conference losses. The odds are very much in favor of them having way out performed what they will do the rest of the season. If you really feel like they are the team to beat in the league, I’d be happy to put money on the other side of that.
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What win the league? You said they'll be lucky to come in the Top 4. Sounds like you are coming around on them.
 
I'm in the boat that Seton Hall isn't that good and will start losing soon (though I've been wrong about a lot of things this season), but FWIW the average 4th place team in the BE the last few years is .603

That's about 12-8, meaning they can go 9-7 the rest of the way and potentially be a top 4 team. Still have GTown 2x and DePaul 2x. If they win those, they need 2 wins combined vs. St Johns 2x, Butler 2x, Nova 2x, Creighton 2x, Xavier 1x, PC 1x, UConn 1x, Marquette 1x

I hate that it seems VERY do-able, and dare I say likely? But I wouldn't put it past them to lose to Georgetown or something
 
Waquoit said:
What win the league? You said they'll be lucky to come in the Top 4. Sounds like you are coming around on them.
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What are you talking about? I’m saying I am happy to put money on them not finishing at the top of the league.
 
REB1094 said:
That's about 12-8, meaning they can go 9-7 the rest of the way and potentially be a top 4 team. Still have GTown 2x and DePaul 2x. If they win those, they need 2 wins combined vs. St Johns 2x, Butler 2x, Nova 2x, Creighton 2x, Xavier 1x, PC 1x, UConn 1x, Marquette 1x

I hate that it seems VERY do-able, and dare I say likely? But I wouldn't put it past them to lose to Georgetown or something
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Typo maybe? *5 wins combined (9-4 = 5). A little more difficult, but 6 home games in there, so definitely very possible.

When you win 3 of the most difficult games on the schedule (H-Marq, H-UConn, @Prov) it certainly makes your standings projections better.
 
CL82 said:
SCHOOLW-LPCT.W-LPCT.
UConn3-1.75013-2.867
St. John's3-1.75011-4.733
Seton Hall3-1.75010-5.667
Villanova3-1.75010-5.667
Creighton2-2.50011-4.733
Marquette2-2.50011-4.733
Providence2-2.50011-4.733
Xavier1-2.3337-7.500
Butler1-3.25010-5.667
Georgetown1-3.2508-7.533
DePaul0-3.0003-11.214

The March 3 Seton Hall game is suddenly looking a lot more important.
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Anything can happen but a 1 game lead over Marquette and Creighton is both unexpected and nice. A little wiggle room never hurts imo.
 

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