semi-OT: Louisville

[HobokenHusky]

The curse of the ACC strikes again. Cuse, Ville. ... . . .. ....... Counting down the days until we hear that a university-employed stripper was molesting baby-dudes at PITT.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

While I would revel in Pitino's demise, and thoroughly enjoy Louisville's fall into hell (especially if those nasty victories against us were wiped off the books) I have to admit I feel scuzzy even reading a story based primarily on the allegations of a woman who admits to whoring out her own daughters.

These things are rarely brought to light be the salt-of-the earth. Look at any mob case as an example. The key witness is usually a degenerate psycho trying to save his own rear.

Still, a woman who pimps her own daughters......damn. Reminds me of the lovely woman at the center of the Mayor Giordano Case in Waterbury. Though, she was worse.

 

[MexicoHusky]

I've been wondering what the NCAA would punish Louisville for. Improper Benefits? Maybe it's that easy.

It just seems like the NCAA has struggled with any illegal activity that's sorta outside the box (there's a joke there). The UNC thing is almost too big for the NCAA and they've struggled to determine punishment. This stripper/hooker thing may also be something the NCAA will struggle with. It seems more like a legal matter. I would not be surprised if the NCAA doesn't do much to Ville. They may let the law and the University deal with it, but do little themselves.

 

[Mano]

My schadenfreude is strong on this one.

 

[Penfield]

I've been wondering what the NCAA would punish Louisville for. Improper Benefits? Maybe it's that easy.

It just seems like the NCAA has struggled with any illegal activity that's sorta outside the box (there's a joke there). The UNC thing is almost too big for the NCAA and they've struggled to determine punishment. This stripper/hooker thing may also be something the NCAA will struggle with. It seems more like a legal matter. I would not be surprised if the NCAA doesn't do much to Ville. They may let the law and the University deal with it, but do little themselves.

Unless they were buying prostitutes for the general student population it's definitely a very improper benefit.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

UCONN HUSKIES 2014 AAC CHAMPIONS!

 

[dante]

I hope Pitino gets banned from coaching ever again and their title and final fours taken away. Having said that I hope they don't get banned and punishing the kids and fans who spent money supporting that program without knowing what was really going on. Instead I would like Louisville fined or have their fans watch their home games at KFC center? free of charge for a whole season along with 5 years of probation.

 

[jibsey]

Roy and Ricky will pull a Seargent Schultz and nothing will happen to them personally.

 

[tcf15]

Roy and Ricky will pull a Seargent Schultz and nothing will happen to them personally.

They Pitino (not sure about Roy) could do that, but it won't matter to NCAA:

 

[HuskyBballFan]

Roy and Ricky will pull a Seargent Schultz and nothing will happen to them personally.

Roy maybe. But Pitino's working under the new penalty structure which holds coaches accountable regardless. Not to mention, he's working on sex scandal #2. I don't think the NCAA is his biggest problem. His own president went out of his way to praise the AD but never mentioned Pitino.

 

[HuskyFich]

Former Players Mentioned in Article
Russ Smith
Terrance Williams
Motrezl Harrel
Peyton Siva
Terry Rozier - "I don't want to talk about it. ... I was already committed before I took my visit. ... I will say, though, Coach P [Pitino], as far as the dorm situations and visits, he'd go out to eat with the recruits and their parents. As far as after that, he wouldn't know. ... I can say his nose is clean." This might be all the NCAA needs...
Antonio Blakeney
etc...

...plus new HC liability rule means even if Pitino didn't know it was going on, he's still punished like he did know.

This is BAD for Louisville. Any way this leads to vacating wins?

 

[upstater]

I'll say it again: this will not be swept under the rug.
Not on a college campus it won't.

There is a lot of nervousness in the NCAA over this. All it takes is one Sally Jenkins article in the Washington Post to blow this whole thing up. Don't miss the obvious. More than 50% of the students on college campuses are women. The NCAA has to come down hard on this. If they don't, they risk a huge Goodell/Ray Rice backlash.

 

[superjohn]

I'll say it again: this will not be swept under the rug.
Not on a college campus it won't.

There is a lot of nervousness in the NCAA over this. All it takes is one Sally Jenkins article in the Washington Post to blow this whole thing up. Don't miss the obvious. More than 50% of the students on college campuses are women. The NCAA has to come down hard on this. If they don't, they risk a huge Goodell/Ray Rice backlash.

Agreed. Pitino is done and if the evidence they are alleging checks out that 2013 title will be vacated.

 

[Kitaman]

I know it was wrong and those involved should stand justice. But I have little respect for this woman (same if it even was a man).
She has a right to snitch, write a book and prosper, but damn to tell all and have been a willing participant (not witness or victim) is just not cool. She ain't the first and she won't be the last.

Someone or something must have activated her all out war button.

 

[superjohn]

I know it was wrong and those involved should stand justice. But I have little respect for this woman (same if it even was a man).
She has a right to snitch, write a book and prosper, but damn to tell all and have been a willing participant (not witness or victim) is just not cool.

The story isn't about her or her morality.

 

[Inyatkin]

Some pretty rich quotes here:

Richard Pitino, Rick’s son and the head coach at Minnesota, told OTL on Tuesday: “I can say 100 percent sure with zero doubt that Rick Pitino knew nothing about these alleged incidents.”
Seton Hall coach Kevin Willard, a former Pitino assistant, also says Rick Pitino was not aware what was going on at the time. “Rick Pitino absolutely had no knowledge that these allegations were going on at anytime,” Willard told SNY.tv. “Anyone that has worked for Coach Pitino or is a friend of Coach knows this and supports him.”

100 percent zero doubt. Sure.

 

[Walker11]

Poor Pitino. Their championship will be vacated but his "2013 National Championship" tattoo isn't going anywhere.

 

[Kitaman]

The story isn't about her or her morality.

I know what the story is about its still just not cool. As I said someone must have did something or said something to and about her. This is heading into dangerous territory.

 

[PopcornHatKid]

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...its-acknowledge-stripper-parties-minardi-hall

With most crime, the most compelling evidence is to simply follow the money.

"Powell said McGee paid her upward of $10,000, mainly, she said, for delivering the dancers to the parties that McGee had organized."

"Outside the Lines has independently confirmed a wire transfer of money from McGee to Powell on one occasion."
​

With a typical graduate assistant coach earning $40K to $60K a year, where did McGee get $10K to spend on adult entertainment for their recruits? if that money can be tied back to the university or an established university booster, Louisville is toast as this not only violates NCAA rules, its criminal. Both Pitino and Jurich's necks could be on the line here.

As for Pinto not knowing.

"They attended parties at a campus dorm from 2010 to 2014 that included strippers paid for by the team's former graduate assistant coach, Andre McGee."
​

These parties were organized by a member of his coaching staff and took place in a university owned dorm - Billy Minardi Hall

https://louisville.edu/campustour/belknap/billy-minardi-hall

http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...ment-firm-details-security-protocol/73476084/

This is a male only dorm that looks to house only the basketball team. Entry is by bio-metric locked doors, guests are required to sign in, and the building has over a dozen security cameras. There is no way that other members of Louisville's coaching staff did not know about these events. I can see the staff hiding one 'event' from Pitino; but, hiding several, just does not seem plausible this day and age.

As a former graduate assistant myself, I want to know where you think GA's are making on average, between $40-$60k.... Try less than $30: And that's pushing it.

But point taken nonetheless.

 

[donyell34]

McGee: "Rick knows everything". Enough said. The buck stops with him.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

The posts on the UL boards are hilarious. One guy claiming ESPN has no right to look into this and they should be bound by NCAA rules like UL is. Apparently them practicing investigative journalism is interfering with the NCAA. Who knew?

 

[Dove]

ESPN is following the "crum"s to Pitino. This is great! And the soldiers coming out in support of Pitino is text book material.

 

[upstater]

The story isn't about her or her morality.

Especially if she might even find herself in jail for this.

 

[APA]

And it all happens in the time period of the new ncaa rules where coaches are held liable for anything their assistants do.

Pitino's toast with the NCAA. That 2013 banner won't live long. Of course, UL won't fire him because they have lower standards than the escort involved.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Some pretty rich quotes here:

Richard Pitino, Rick’s son and the head coach at Minnesota, told OTL on Tuesday: “I can say 100 percent sure with zero doubt that Rick Pitino knew nothing about these alleged incidents.”
Seton Hall coach Kevin Willard, a former Pitino assistant, also says Rick Pitino was not aware what was going on at the time. “Rick Pitino absolutely had no knowledge that these allegations were going on at anytime,” Willard told SNY.tv. “Anyone that has worked for Coach Pitino or is a friend of Coach knows this and supports him.”

100 percent zero doubt. Sure.

Do I believe Pitino knew all the details of these parties, no. Do I believe he told his staff to win these recruiting battles at all costs, yes.
Any coach who doesn't know what a 17 or 18 year old entrusted to his care is doing at night is unworthy of his position. He may not know, hey "Joe" got 3 lap dances, but he should at least know "we had a little party in the dorm for Joe." He may not want to know the particulars, but he would need to know where "Joe" was and is he ok this morning. He can't cry ignorance here and maintain credibility.