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Let me get this straight, you are on this board incessantly pontificating as if you live and breath UCONN football, and yet you don't support the program by purchasing tickets and it sounds like you might not even make the games this season. And you do this to make a point to Warde Manuel?

Dan, honestly, given the amount of time you spend on this board for a football program you don't support you should really find something else to do. It would give some of the rest of us a break too, because, honestly man...it gets really old, really fast.

Agree 1000%...Childish ignorant whah, whah, whah at best. I hate to slander anyone but by his own admission we are not talking about a UCONN fan here. One can only pray he did not receive a degree from UCONN in English. This would set our APR back a century or more...
 
I don't see the problem with this plan. I think it's actually a cool idea. I'd like some on-field passes as a Father's Day gift. Plus the season tickets as well. Sign me up.

Did anyone who's bashing this stop to think that giving away two free tickets is a great way to bring two people who may have never been to a UConn game? How can you go wrong? Get a friend or a couple who have never been to a game, set up a great tailgate (even if it's a Thursday but so be it, make do with whatever you can), and show them what a game is like all for FREE for them. Just maybe, they'll see how this could be fun and wanna buy tickets this season or season tix next season. I don't see how anyone can bash this one.
 
You guys are missi g the point giving away a few extra tickets makes bigger groups that can come. Be influenced by uconn football and Spread the word. Also more people to spend money at the game. Not a bad idea also they are going to put the dads on the field which can be a rare opportunity for those that want to go. Is this earth shattering marketing? No but it's a little boost to get people to fill te sands for an fcs game
 
HFD should spend money on tix regardless of coach/team/AD. Thst is what being s fan is. Of the jersey, not what is behind it.

Tired of his whining.

They have given tickets to the first gsme as a promotiin for years thid is not new. Who cares.

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Didn't they give away Rhode Island tix to people who bought and donated bowl game tix the season before the RI game? Something like that.

Yes. It was the Texas Southern game from a few years ago. I used the extra freebies that I got from donating PapaJohns Bowl tickets to bring a few friends to that game. Despite the score being in the neighborhood of 50-3, those friends had a great time. Those few friends are now season ticket holders.
 
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If it sells 50 more season tickets that's 50 more likely UConn fans and 50 less sold to Maryland, Mich, Rutty etc. That's fine with me.

I feel like people (a person) are missing the point that the objective is to sell more season tickets and not just give out tickets to Towson. Like that free ticket comes with season tickets.
 
You guys are missi g the point giving away a few extra tickets makes bigger groups that can come. Be influenced by uconn football and Spread the word. Also more people to spend money at the game. Not a bad idea also they are going to put the dads on the field which can be a rare opportunity for those that want to go. Is this earth shattering marketing? No but it's a little boost to get people to fill te sands for an fcs game

Definitely. People at the game who got in for free will be more likely to buy the ticket holder some merch or something as a thank you.

HOW CAN PEOPLE FIND FAULT WITH THIS???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
 
It is surprising that they are doing this so early. Bad sign.

Yup. Father day promotion? Good. Tix as the free thing? Bad. Give some type of voucher for a shirt or hoodie or something. Dumping tix this early is telling.


I knew I was going to get hammered in this thread. That's fine. No one here can take the glasses off. My family gives to the school every year as a handful of them are uconn blood. I'm not. I give a small amount to my favorite program at my school. I have my beef with leadership. But besides that everyone here should understand my side of it. While I would be happy if uconn wa scale on Tuesdays, I don't care. It doesn't make me money or help my resume or anything. I'm a sports fan who lives loal. Like a lot of you fans and borderline fans. That group of ppl were really starting to get attached 2-3 years ago. The train was gaining speed. Then everything the past year or so happened. It is what it's come to today. You guys have to take the glasses off and see it from a different side. I beg all of you. Leave my antics out of it. Just view it from a different angle. It's ugly.

And thanks for all the jerks who pump chest. Dan your not a fan. Dan I have been to every home game ever. Dan just stop coming here. Blah blah blah. Lol when uconn started play I was in middle school sorry I didn't have season tix back then.

I think a lot here need a dose of what a real football school does. We should all follow a wvu or Michigan or Oklahoma for a month this summer watch there ads talk and address things. See the marketing and decisions made. It would blows people's minds here.

I'm a New England kid. I grew up rooting for the Yankees because my grandpa did. My dad was a mets fan and other family members were Boston fans. Half of my family are giants fans half jets. Only 2 are pats fans. Then some are Knicks, nets, rangers etc etc. I am a average New England family representing. We all like winning and our teams spend a lot of money. No matter how bad the mets or the kicks are any year there are other teams to go root for or at least watch if you like watching a certain sport. Uconn has a lot to compete with. When you sit back like uconn is and lolly gag it shows. The Knicks and nets next year are going to have a lot of hype. The Yankees look good. The mets stink but have a ct pitcher who is making headlines. Both the rangers and islanders are good next year also. The pats will be the pats and the celtics the celtics. The bruins will be major talk. What's uconn doing to gear up for the fall? You guys all realize what a storm of good teams is coming right?

I may be a jerkoff, but I think a lot of this board lives further from the reality of the ad then I do every tho were on different sides. I think most here are born and bred bball fans who over time have made football a 2nd love. There is nothing wrong with that, but it does show at time here with the group impressions on topics.

I was a bball fan grew up on JC. I always rooted for PSU football and wvu football. Family members bred me into that when I was little. When I went to hs uconn started to show up n tv and because the brand in me from JC I started to follow. Then my buddy was a big player and I really started watching as I got to eat lunch one day with RE. I was upset my buddy left the state but stayed a fan. When I got to college I became more of a fan seeing what college was like even at a d3 level. Befor college was over I was hooked. I was the example of what uconn could do in this state over time. Winning for sure played a role in that. But there was a energy and local chat about this program that has disappeared. Today it's quiet. And when u mention it ppl look at u wired or say well Michigan or Maryland is going to whip up on us this year. I hate that its come to what today has. So I'm a nasty sob on here as result because I want those good times back.

And yes, I think I can run a athletic department Bette than our past two ad's. Am i delusional? You say so. But u have no clue who I really am. What my education level is or what not. U just see crapy English and ranting and think I live I a box. The truth is I have never held a ad position at a BCS school. The truth is either has our current ad. But he's a rockstar.
 
As I've said before I appreciate non-alum fans but they don't think about this the way alums do. I can't turn off that I'm a UConn grad. And I won't. He just wants entertaining sports. If the school burnt down and we won a NC he'd be fine with that.

I don't want the school to burn down. My family has a emotional aspect to it like many here. I simply don't. I want to throw for 300 yards a game and win or lose 45-35 and not play 14-6 games vs temple.
 
In short, you can't even market to your friends..........

My friends sold me at first. My first game was in the student section yet I never went to uconn. They are the ones who bought season group packages. I became more of a solid fan over time because I already was a football fan and a uconn DNA so the two merged easy and well. They are uconn alums. I shouldn't have to sell them. I think what u mean to say is THE SCHOOL CAN EVEN SELL ITS OWN ALUMS. Chew on that jackass. One of them likes in Glastonbury. Kid wakes up and drive down the road to the game. Or at least used to. I always got two tickets and the group was as big as 15 ish tailgating wise. It one of those has a ticket to date. I have not influenced them in any way. I don't rant to them and moan about warde. I drink with them and do normal friends type things. Most of them can care less about the type of stuff talked about here. They are not interested.

But yes, it's my fault they are season tix holders not the school they went to. And this folks is why uconn fans are laughed at on other messages boards and uconns commitment to football is laughed at on other boards and here's a good one maybe this is why uconn is in the AAC.
 
In short, you can't even market to your friends..........

I like Dan, but this made me LOL. I'm a non-alum, though the wife is, and I "market" and expose new folks to UConn football, every chance I get. UConn football is the best ticket in CT sports scene period. It was when Edsall was here, whom I disliked, and it is still under P, who hasn't gotten it done. I look forward to exposing new fans again this year.

True story, I took a knowledgeable sports fan to UConn/SU back when SU had Cam Dantley qbing, and he kept saying "man, these quarterbacks both suck". He was an NFL/not CFB fan. I still laugh when I think of that.
 
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We have extra tix for Towson. Why not use them as bait to encourage the sale of more season tix? You lose absolutely nothing and the upside is more season ticket sales, immediate cash flow and the opportunity to introduce new people to the game day experience. Opposition to this promotion is simply silly.
 
Let me get this straight, you are on this board incessantly pontificating as if you live and breath UCONN football, and yet you don't support the program by purchasing tickets and it sounds like you might not even make the games this season. And you do this to make a point to Warde Manuel?

Dan, honestly, given the amount of time you spend on this board for a football program you don't support you should really find something else to do. It would give some of the rest of us a break too, because, honestly man...it gets really old, really fast.

I have ignored HFD's posts because he is clearly a genius so I'm not sure I'm interpreting this correctly but......does he not buy season tix? Not surprising. Typical, pontificating Internet dickbag who knows everything but does nothing to support he program. What a .
 
But yes, it's my fault they are season tix holders not the school they went to. And this folks is why uconn fans are laughed at on other messages boards and uconns commitment to football is laughed at on other boards and here's a good one maybe this is why uconn is in the AAC.[/quote]


You mention UConn fans should follow Michigan (and other big football schools) fans around for a month, that we would be amazed. I think you would be amazed, cause they support the program no matter what. Do you think that if Michigan fans didn't like the AD they would stop going to games to teach the university a lesson? No, that's just dumb. If anything you are hurting the program. UConn has never sold out for the season so the administrations expectations for attendance aren't high-and when the administration sees such poor attendance they won't blame the AD, they will blame the fans and you will just be postponing any additional funding and attention the university gives to the program and making other conferences not look at us as a legitimate potential conference addition. Not to mention hurting recruiting even more, cause these kids want to play in front of people and not in front of an empty stadium. Think before you post.

I don't particularly like WM so far, but you blaming him for everything is just not well thought out. You talk about all these marketing plans but fail to realize that every department is given a budget so they can't just do whatever they want when it comes to marketing - and you do realize that he is in charge of all the athletic programs at the university and everything that goes along with being an AD (ie scheduling, hiring/firing, attending events on top of marketing and everything else).

Lastly, I come to your quote above. Maybe other fans and fans on other message boards laugh at us cause we don't fill the stadium cause our "fans" don't like the AD, or the new logo, or the new uniforms. It's "fans" like you that give other fans a reason to laugh at us. maybe the reason we are in the AAC is cause some "fans" only support the program and go to games when it's easy an convenient to cause we are winning. If we sold out all our games (or have close to a sellout every game) regardless of record and opponent, other conferences would see we have a bigger fan base then they thought and would maybe look at us for expanding their conference. Don't you realize that the bigger the following (which includes selling out games) brings the university to the attention of other schools and brings better recruits (and vice versa) the bigger the fan base (including consistenly selling out games) brings better recruits which leads to winning more games and makes other conference consider us more seriously.
 
I have ignored HFD's posts because he is clearly a genius so I'm not sure I'm interpreting this correctly but......does he not buy season tix? Not surprising. Typical, pontificating Internet dickbag who knows everything but does nothing to support he program. What a .
He's an attention whoring dipsh!t. Writes fukking novels for posts about the most stupid .
 
Are we really going to pretend these freebees grows the season ticket base long term? They have been doing this for years as it has shrunk.
 
Are we really going to pretend these freebees grows the season ticket base long term? They have been doing this for years as it has shrunk.
It might. There's nothin wrong with throwing in a few tix for a game that most likely isn't going to sell out. They are not free , u do have to buy seasons to get them. It is a way to put extra people on the stands and hopefully those people will do what ? Spend money and enjoy uconn football.


As far as HFD goes. Go easy on him. He is being honest. He could have lied and said he goes to all the games and buys season tix. And he does love uconn sports. Maybe someone can donate their free bee to him.
 
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I don't like telling people how to spend their money. And you have all the right in the world to not support the team or the school. But it pretty much eliminates your credibility here as far as I'm concerned.

Lots of things I'm not happy about. I tried to get elected to the Alumni board. I lost but I tried to get involved. And in the process I am now connected to more people that can influence change. And I will exert influence on those people. That's how actual change happens.

But this was always going to be a tough grind. There are no magic bullets. This is going to take time. And our fan base is fickle. A hoops game against FFLD will never sell out. Syracuse games always did. This conference is a big problem. Poor opponents means there is no "marquis" nature to the events. And that, coupled with winning, matters. But it will be 10 more years before we regularly sell out, if ever, unless we end up in the B1G (I personally don't think the ACC changes that much either as it is mostly just the old BE plus a few). The culture doesn't exist here yet. And it may never. There is a reason that we were 1-AA for so long.

So given all of the doom and gloom, where will I be? In section 241. Representing. Because I believe that's my job. And if I'm there with my son and BL and nobody else? So be it.
 
It might. There's nothin wrong with throwing in a few tix for a game that most likely isn't going to sell out. They are not free , u do have to buy seasons to get them. It is a way to put extra people on the stands and hopefully those people will do what ? Spend money and enjoy uconn football.


As far as HFD goes. Go easy on him. He is being honest. He could have lied and said he goes to all the games and buys season tix. And he does love uconn sports. Maybe someone can donate their free bee to him.

Well it clearly hasn't. This isn't new.

Their approach to selling tickets is backwards. They reward people who wait. So it creates people that wait.

Giving away tickets to your lesser games is a slippery slope. It creates a dynamic that UConn isn't the draw - the opponent is.

The way they handled the Syracuse basketball game was silly. Jack up the price for a quick cash grab because Syracuse was highly ranked and were rewarded with a few thousand empty seats. Then they turn around and drop the price for Villanova for those who waited while your valuable season ticket holders pay full freight. Why give people more reasons to not but season tickets?

If you want to dynamically price your games figure out what you are going to charge say Michigan 50 Maryland Ville RU 35 and the balance at 20 - then set your season tickets at an advantage to those prices - and do not drop the single game prices as time passes.
 
The moments when I agree with you whaler are few and far between, and before I go on, I must say, that there is SIGNIFICANT improvement in how the department is going about their business in the past 2 years. YOu cannot look at one side, and ignore the other. THey are trying, and they are improving.

It's only in the past two years, that I can clearly see that they've even realized that there is a significant difference between season ticket buyers and single game buyers, and how to go about the business of moving tickets between those two kinds of categories, and it's only been one year, that we've had an athletic director, that has a modicum of understanding of what division 1A college football is supposed to be managed like.

I completely agree though, with what you're saying. While it's a step in the right direction, with marketing, it's a slippery slope, because you have to create value in your product with sales pitches, not devalue your product.

It's a simple principle - when you advertise 'free' stuff, you attract the kind of people that want 'free' stuff. Dangerous balance, that you don't want to rely on, because people that are attracted to 'free' stuff, usually aren't the kind that are willing to spend money.
 
Well don't tell that to people that do pharmacy marketing. They are all about giving away free stuff.

Actually it isn't free it is a bonus or reward. You buy seasons say a pair. You get two free to basically a practice game so u can entice two of your buddies.
 
I'm mostly ok with the work WM and SH are doing... Coach P, not as much, but I'm hopeful about TJW. I think we can be big time at the Rent without sending bulldozers and hundreds of billions of dollars up 384.

Yes, HFD rants and raves like a lunatic.

But the one thing I think he's right about is the overall lack of a proactive, fight for your life attitude coming out of Storrs. For far too long we've been fat and happy on hoops championships, getting to a BCS bowl quickly for a young D1 squad, and improving academics. We are awesome, just ask anyone here. But here we are, demoted to the AAC. EVERY fan interaction, alumni interaction, you name it- it needs to be scrutinized to say : what can we do better? How do we improve the experience and grow the fan base not just here in CT, but throughout New England and New York? Some of HFD's ideas are insane and costly, but some are just creativity, effort, and getting the word out. And yes, winning above all else, but do we have any plans other than "winning because we are winners"? If new fans (even old fans) are going to continue to invest time and money... Will they be rooting for a school that clearly wants to be big time, playing the best, beating the best? Or one that's happy to be "amongst peers" in the AAC reliving past glory? UConn has to want to fight for its life, and people will want to join them in that.

Me, I'm in for life. I'm a proud alum and have been a UConn fan since Scotty Burrell to Tate was seared in my brain as a 12 year old. I'm a Yankees and Giants fan, but first and foremost a UConn football and hoops fan - my time and money go to UConn first. I'm easy. Building the fanbase beyond people like me takes more effort. It's a fight worth putting more effort in to.
 
Well don't tell that to people that do pharmacy marketing. They are all about giving away free stuff.

Actually it isn't free it is a bonus or reward. You buy seasons say a pair. You get two free to basically a practice game so u can entice two of your buddies.

So despite the fact they have watched season ticket sales fall steadily over 10 years just keep doing the same things.

That makes perfect sense. Maybe Carl is right and they are realizing the value of season ticket holders but based on the debacles at XL last year I'll believe it when I see it.
 
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Well don't tell that to people that do pharmacy marketing. They are all about giving away free stuff.

Actually it isn't free it is a bonus or reward. You buy seasons say a pair. You get two free to basically a practice game so u can entice two of your buddies.
Pharmaceutical promotions is based on very subtle influences. You would think (or hope) that giving an office of MDs and RNs some sandwiches and a goodie back of notepads and pens with your logo on it would never influence their decision to prescribe one drug or another but IIRC there's evidence that it does work, on a subconscious level even.

Anyway, Dan has a right to do what he wants with his money. I think he's operating under an bit of an illusion that market forces would be enough to get WM fired in the next 4-5 years, let alone in 2013. If the basketball teams win the AAC and keep making runs to the final four, and the overall athletic department does well academically financially (considering the AAC TV deal), an average-ish football program probably won't be enough reason to replace WM. I do want us to not be satisfied with going to bowl games, but realistically we're not going to be the school that fires its football coach once every two years. We're going to take a long term approach to build the athletic department, which means impatient fans who expect transformative changes every two years are not going to run out of things to whine about anytime soon.
 
So despite the fact they have watched season ticket sales fall steadily over 10 years just keep doing the same things.

That makes perfect sense. Maybe Carl is right and they are realizing the value of season ticket holders but based on the debacles at XL last year I'll believe it when I see it.

I remember talking about this at length 2-3 years ago. For nearly a decade, Hathaway managed the football program ticket sales for Rentschler, exactly the same way that basketball model was created by Lew Perkins and decade earlier. THe simple facts are that in basketball, we're looking at splitting some 16-20 events or so between two venues that each sit about 10k, 15k respectively. In football, we're looking at 6-8 max events per year at 40k each. In both scenarios - you're looking at two groups of people - season ticket holders, and individual game ticket buyers.

I'm quite sure that Warde Manuel has never managed a basketball program like ours, that splits our home games among different venues, and has basically two entirely separate and distinct ticket buying bases, and there will be a learning curve there as well.

I think the father's day gift idea, with extra tickets to the Towson game, on field passes, is a great idea. I'm pretty sure that exact idea was suggested here, in the past.

I'm concerned as to who the email blast actually went to though.

There are some kinds of rules that go along with waiting beyond certain posted dates to renew your tickets, but I don't know what they are specifically, because I renew in February every year. BUt if it is the case, that I could have waited until now, to renew my seats, and could have waited without penalty of some kind, to buy my tickets, and still be guaranteed the same seats, and now get a couple freebies, what's the incentive to buy early? And therein, lies my concern.

Because the offer itself, I think it's a great marketing ploy, for generating NEW MULTIPLE TICKET sales. This is clearly not a ploy marketed toward returning buyers, and that's why whaler is upset with it, I think.

There are the four categories of ticket buyers - in any sales really.

YOu are either a new buyer or a returning buyer. You can only be a new buyer once. Once you buy once, anytime thereafter, you are a return buyer. and your contact info better be compiled into a list and categorized.

Once you become a buyer, you are either a multiple ticket package buyer, or a single ticket buyer.

Each type (new buyer - multiple or single) or (returning buyer - multiple or single) needs to be marketed to in a specific, individualized way.

This father's day promotion is clearly a ploy at new/multiple buyers. that's a good thing.

The issue, is getting the promotion out into the public. If the email blast is going to exising season buyers, they've missed their mark - it needs to get out into the general public.

And the greater point, I'm saying whaler - is that until the past 2 seasons basically - for both basketball and football, the athletic department has failed to even address these kinds of things in any way. We didn't do promotions like this at all.

It seems the issue now, is that we're doing the promotions, +1 step in the right direction, but are they being targeted to the proper populations? Good question.

THe underlying thing, that pisses me off a bit, is that this is elementary sales 101, and that it shouldn't take years to develop the experience and knowledge to do this kind of thing properly. I don't know who the people are in charge of marketing, who's been around a long time, and who might be new, and what they're respective qualifications and experience are/is, but the learning curve has been on a slow slope, and hopefully will accelerate upward, quickly.

My prediction, is that very soon, after this father's day promotion, will start to see some specific targeted stuff for new multiple buyers around the michigan and maryland games. Mini packages.

THe message has to get out into the general public though, if you're looking at generating new buyers. You can't expect your returning ticket buying base, to spread the word on deals for tickets that they've already purchased.
 
All of that said - this promotion is a fantastic effort at generating NEW MULTIPLE ticket buyers.

You just go to hope that it makes it's way into the faces of potential NEW MULTIPLE buyers.

I've done my part and forwarded the email appropriately. Hopefully the rest of you do too.

And when you're done, feel free to bitch about it, the way I have. Shouldn't be our responsibility to get the message to potential NEW MULTIPLE buyers.
 
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Thinking about this thing - offering the on-field pass, would be a great offer at targeted population of returning buyers (either single or multiple) in an effort to move returning buyers (people that have purchased at least one ticket sometime in the past) into returning buyers of multiple packages. Getting down on the field is a pretty cool thing, for people that actually have been there before - Ithink.

The two freebies, is a great ploy - toward NEW buyers. ANd that's where the 'free' thing I mentioned before - comes in as dangerous - advertising 'freebie's' is a dangerous thing - because you attract people that don't spend money regularly. But it generates 'NEW' interest.

If there's any fault here - it's in combining the two things - and what target population the ad actually was sent to.

If it was a shotgun approach, to everybody, which it appears to be - it's still better than nothing - and hopefully they learn from it to get more specific.

THe key to all of it, is establishing and maintaining a detailed database and contact list of ticket buyers, that can be divided up into the categories of single and multiple buyers.
 
It's friggin Towson on Thursday before Labor Day, anyone expecting more than 32K, especially the way the last two seasons have gone, is out of touch. Some people just love to complain.

The athletic department is damned if they do, damned if they don't with many on this board.
I'm hopeful for more than 32,000, but you do not lie.
 
I don't like telling people how to spend their money. And you have all the right in the world to not support the team or the school. But it pretty much eliminates your credibility here as far as I'm concerned.

Lots of things I'm not happy about. I tried to get elected to the Alumni board. I lost but I tried to get involved. And in the process I am now connected to more people that can influence change. And I will exert influence on those people. That's how actual change happens.

But this was always going to be a tough grind. There are no magic bullets. This is going to take time. And our fan base is fickle. A hoops game against FFLD will never sell out. Syracuse games always did. This conference is a big problem. Poor opponents means there is no "marquis" nature to the events. And that, coupled with winning, matters. But it will be 10 more years before we regularly sell out, if ever, unless we end up in the B1G (I personally don't think the ACC changes that much either as it is mostly just the old BE plus a few). The culture doesn't exist here yet. And it may never. There is a reason that we were 1-AA for so long.

So given all of the doom and gloom, where will I be? In section 241. Representing. Because I believe that's my job. And if I'm there with my son and BL and nobody else? So be it.


Jmoney - we will sell out with a winning football program. I have no reason whatsoever to think that we wouldn't. You need look no further than recent history. When this program has been it's hottest, the stadium has been sold to capacity every time. Until we reach a point, where we are a top 25 competitive program, and winning regularly, and we are playing in front of 70% capacity - the problems we face now, are generating ticket sales, for a poor product on the field.

We need to learn from these things, so that when we do have down years, the fans have reason to return to the stadium. HFD's idea yesterday about creating some kind of common theme at the stadium for all fans to experience (I am in man-love with the monument park idea around the stadium with UCONN dairy bar station, local micro brew, stations, sitting areas etc.) is a great idea. The response here to the ticket sales ploy - not so much.

I really believe on further review that this was a much better effort at generating ticket sales than anything I"ve seen - well - ever before in the Rentschler field days. It appears to be a shotgun approach across all categories of ticket buyers though, and that's something to definitely learn from.

Just sharing my thoughts - now I gotta go do what I do to pay the bills. Have a great weekend, and happy father's day to all the dad's out there, may there be several thousand dads that get the gift of UCONN football season tickets!

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